julian tempest
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I have a CQ60-211DX notebook. It uses an Intel Celeron 585 2.16 GHz single core processor. This is a Socket 9 processor.
I want to know if it is possible to upgrade this to a better Socket 9 processor, such as the Pentium Dual Core or the Core 2 Duo. My main concern is which processor families the motherboard will support.
My research so far indicates that the Celeron has a max TDP of 31W. The Pentium Dual Core T3200 (2.0 GHz) and T3400 (2.16 Ghz) have a max TDP of 35W and the Core 2 Duo has a max TDP of 10 W. So, the Pentium Dual Core would generate slightly more heat than the Celeron, but I think it might be able to handle the additional 4W? The Core 2 Duo, on the other hand, is practically cold.
The Celeron and Pentium both have 1 MB of L2 cache, but the Core 2 Duo has 2 MB. The Core 2 Duo has a much slower clock rate (1.5 Ghz), but I'm to understand that it's still faster than the Pentium thanks to architecture efficiency.
I'm not sure how the FSB affects things, but the Celeron and Pentium are 667 MHz while the Core 2 Duo is 533 MHz.
There are several other stats that I don't understand. Much of the info I have comes from the following pages. Also, I confirmed with an Intel rep that the Celeron 585 is, indeed, Socket P.
http://ark.intel.com/Compare.aspx?ids=35583,37160,33920,36681,
http://ark.intel.com/Search.aspx?q=Socket%20P&t=ProductGroup
http://ark.intel.com/ProductCollection.aspx?series=28964
http://ark.intel.com/ProductCollection.aspx?series=23517
It seems that Intel often fails to indicated that a processor is Socket P, but Sockets Supported including PPGA478 seems to be what I'm looking for. Not entirely certain, though. There seem to be processors in the T7000, T8000, and T9000 series that support PPGA478, also.
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27255&processor=T7200&spec-codes=SL9SF,SL9SL
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27256&processor=T7400&spec-codes=SL9SE,SL9SK,SLGFJ,SLGFV
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27257&processor=T7600&spec-codes=SL9SD,SL9SJ
Though the T8000 and T9000 models all have much higher FSB speeds. Again, I don't know enough to understand what effect that has on compatibility, so I'm assuming I should stick with 667 MHz.
Lastly, I would assume that the U7000 series is more advanced than any of the T-series, but other than the much lower max TPD and VID voltage, all the other specs seem inferior (FSB, clock speed, L2 cache).
Soldering isn't a problem. I do not know if my processor is soldered on or not (haven't yet cracked it open, and won't until I know it's worth the trouble), but even if it is, I have a soldering iron, soldering wick, and the skill to remove the solder without damaging the components.
So that's what I've been able to piece together so far. If someone could let me know what processors my laptop's motherboard can handle, I'd really appreciate it. If someone could suggest which processor(s) would provide the best performance boost, that'd be awesome, too.
Thanks!
Luke
I want to know if it is possible to upgrade this to a better Socket 9 processor, such as the Pentium Dual Core or the Core 2 Duo. My main concern is which processor families the motherboard will support.
My research so far indicates that the Celeron has a max TDP of 31W. The Pentium Dual Core T3200 (2.0 GHz) and T3400 (2.16 Ghz) have a max TDP of 35W and the Core 2 Duo has a max TDP of 10 W. So, the Pentium Dual Core would generate slightly more heat than the Celeron, but I think it might be able to handle the additional 4W? The Core 2 Duo, on the other hand, is practically cold.
The Celeron and Pentium both have 1 MB of L2 cache, but the Core 2 Duo has 2 MB. The Core 2 Duo has a much slower clock rate (1.5 Ghz), but I'm to understand that it's still faster than the Pentium thanks to architecture efficiency.
I'm not sure how the FSB affects things, but the Celeron and Pentium are 667 MHz while the Core 2 Duo is 533 MHz.
There are several other stats that I don't understand. Much of the info I have comes from the following pages. Also, I confirmed with an Intel rep that the Celeron 585 is, indeed, Socket P.
http://ark.intel.com/Compare.aspx?ids=35583,37160,33920,36681,
http://ark.intel.com/Search.aspx?q=Socket%20P&t=ProductGroup
http://ark.intel.com/ProductCollection.aspx?series=28964
http://ark.intel.com/ProductCollection.aspx?series=23517
It seems that Intel often fails to indicated that a processor is Socket P, but Sockets Supported including PPGA478 seems to be what I'm looking for. Not entirely certain, though. There seem to be processors in the T7000, T8000, and T9000 series that support PPGA478, also.
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27255&processor=T7200&spec-codes=SL9SF,SL9SL
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27256&processor=T7400&spec-codes=SL9SE,SL9SK,SLGFJ,SLGFV
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27257&processor=T7600&spec-codes=SL9SD,SL9SJ
Though the T8000 and T9000 models all have much higher FSB speeds. Again, I don't know enough to understand what effect that has on compatibility, so I'm assuming I should stick with 667 MHz.
Lastly, I would assume that the U7000 series is more advanced than any of the T-series, but other than the much lower max TPD and VID voltage, all the other specs seem inferior (FSB, clock speed, L2 cache).
Soldering isn't a problem. I do not know if my processor is soldered on or not (haven't yet cracked it open, and won't until I know it's worth the trouble), but even if it is, I have a soldering iron, soldering wick, and the skill to remove the solder without damaging the components.
So that's what I've been able to piece together so far. If someone could let me know what processors my laptop's motherboard can handle, I'd really appreciate it. If someone could suggest which processor(s) would provide the best performance boost, that'd be awesome, too.
Thanks!
Luke
