CPU upgrade for CQ60-211DX notebook

[julian tempest]

I have a CQ60-211DX notebook. It uses an Intel Celeron 585 2.16 GHz single core processor. This is a Socket 9 processor.

I want to know if it is possible to upgrade this to a better Socket 9 processor, such as the Pentium Dual Core or the Core 2 Duo. My main concern is which processor families the motherboard will support.

My research so far indicates that the Celeron has a max TDP of 31W. The Pentium Dual Core T3200 (2.0 GHz) and T3400 (2.16 Ghz) have a max TDP of 35W and the Core 2 Duo has a max TDP of 10 W. So, the Pentium Dual Core would generate slightly more heat than the Celeron, but I think it might be able to handle the additional 4W? The Core 2 Duo, on the other hand, is practically cold.

The Celeron and Pentium both have 1 MB of L2 cache, but the Core 2 Duo has 2 MB. The Core 2 Duo has a much slower clock rate (1.5 Ghz), but I'm to understand that it's still faster than the Pentium thanks to architecture efficiency.

I'm not sure how the FSB affects things, but the Celeron and Pentium are 667 MHz while the Core 2 Duo is 533 MHz.

There are several other stats that I don't understand. Much of the info I have comes from the following pages. Also, I confirmed with an Intel rep that the Celeron 585 is, indeed, Socket P.

http://ark.intel.com/Compare.aspx?ids=35583,37160,33920,36681,
http://ark.intel.com/Search.aspx?q=Socket%20P&t=ProductGroup
http://ark.intel.com/ProductCollection.aspx?series=28964
http://ark.intel.com/ProductCollection.aspx?series=23517

It seems that Intel often fails to indicated that a processor is Socket P, but Sockets Supported including PPGA478 seems to be what I'm looking for. Not entirely certain, though. There seem to be processors in the T7000, T8000, and T9000 series that support PPGA478, also.

http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27255&processor=T7200&spec-codes=SL9SF,SL9SL
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27256&processor=T7400&spec-codes=SL9SE,SL9SK,SLGFJ,SLGFV
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27257&processor=T7600&spec-codes=SL9SD,SL9SJ

Though the T8000 and T9000 models all have much higher FSB speeds. Again, I don't know enough to understand what effect that has on compatibility, so I'm assuming I should stick with 667 MHz.

Lastly, I would assume that the U7000 series is more advanced than any of the T-series, but other than the much lower max TPD and VID voltage, all the other specs seem inferior (FSB, clock speed, L2 cache).

Soldering isn't a problem. I do not know if my processor is soldered on or not (haven't yet cracked it open, and won't until I know it's worth the trouble), but even if it is, I have a soldering iron, soldering wick, and the skill to remove the solder without damaging the components.

So that's what I've been able to piece together so far. If someone could let me know what processors my laptop's motherboard can handle, I'd really appreciate it. If someone could suggest which processor(s) would provide the best performance boost, that'd be awesome, too.

Thanks!

Luke

 

[julian tempest]

Forgot to mention. It's an HP computer.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01632156&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN

 

[Guest]

If its possible to change the cpu, because hp design, try to check the motherboard spec ( model number). Whats the chipset?
The motherboard is probably made by HP.

Run cpuz and post screenshots of cpu and motherboard,ram info.

 

[julian tempest]

Not sure how to post pics to this forum other than uploading them to the web and linking them, so if there's a simpler way, please let me know.

My CPU-Z data is as follows:

I'm pretty sure this is the motherboard:

http://www.laptoprepairco.com/itemdetails/itemdetails.asp?ref=2136&category=boards

Thanks!

Luke

 

[wuzy]

Most laptop with GL40 you can use up to any 800Mhz FSB 65nm processor based on Socket P e.g. T7300
Support for 45nm (Penryl) like T6600 is slim.
Just remember to update the BIOS to the latest before making the switch. Very important.

T7xxx Socket P can be found fairly cheaply on eBay now and they're all 800Mhz FSB.

 

[obsidian86]

try and upgrade the heatsink as well

 

[obsidian86]

yeah

 

[julian tempest]

try and upgrade the heatsink as well

Wait, it's possible to upgrade a laptop's heat sink? I would have thought that the heat sink had to be specifically designed to fit into the laptop to begin with, seeing as it's like a 3D jigsaw puzzle in there. A desktop, on the other hand, has plenty of open space.

If I'm wrong, and it is possible to upgrade the heat sink, where would I go to find a better one that would fit?

 

[julian tempest]

Most laptop with GL40 you can use up to any 800Mhz FSB 65nm processor based on Socket P e.g. T7300
Support for 45nm (Penryl) like T6600 is slim.
Just remember to update the BIOS to the latest before making the switch. Very important.

T7xxx Socket P can be found fairly cheaply on eBay now and they're all 800Mhz FSB.

Awesome! Great information, thanks! How did you know about the GL40, or more accurately, where can I go to learn about that sort of stuff? I never really understood what the chipset and bridges did.

So my only remaining question is, where would I go about getting the latest bios for this? It's not something I'd expect HP to have on their drivers download site. In fact, flashing the BIOS is one of those things I'm to understand you don't do unless you really have to. That list includes, but is not entirely limited to:

Don't cross the streams.
Don't mess with the registry.
Don't flash the BIOS.

Kinda kidding there, but I assume I'll want to back up the old BIOS first.

But yeah, don't know where to get the BIOS. Just emailed Wistron, and I'll see if they respond. Other than that, any suggestions?

Thanks!

Luke

 

[julian tempest]

I managed to find the BIOS, so I'm posting the link in case anyone finds this topic later.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=ob-74207-1&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&lang=en&os=2093&product=3866423

Oddly enough, it actually was readily available in the software downloads area, but only for Vista. We'll see how it works with XP (though to be honest, I'm surprised BIOS would even have to consider OS).

I think this about wraps it up for this problem. Thanks!

Luke