Question Cpu upgrade for Socket 1156

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SamirD

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Wow, fake CPUs? Do they work at least?

The seller I posted on AliExpress seems legit as he has good reviews. He sold 122 Xeons X3470.
They did, but weren't as fast as they should have been in relation to the old ones. I didn't think of it much until I ran the Intel test. Then I was PISSED!

There are fake reviews too, and you have to also realize that most people won't test a cpu with any type of official benchmark to see if it's a fake, so they won't even know. I don't trust the Chinese at all anymore. Anything coming from there is shady on some level unless there's a local retailer that's going to take the heat if it's not on the level. Any online company or 'business office' can be fake as well. It's flat out ridiculous.
 

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The one that fits the case you want and has the price and features you want. Remember, the base (reference) design is going to be very similar if not the same.
 

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The Gigabyte seems to have the best cooler, bigger than the others.
 

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The Gigabyte seems to have the best cooler, bigger than the others.
It does, but the performance between it and the passively cooled msi are the same:
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/gigabyte-gt-1030-oc.b4743
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/zotac-gt-1030-low-profile.b4617
 

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i7-870 / i7-875k whatever you get cheap, used or new. Btw you can pair this cpu with alot better GPU:s and have good gaming experience even with games like fortnite dont get fooled by the old age.

You dont bottleneck gpu:s like gtx 670 / 780 even without overclocking and can go 780ti 970 with slight oc, depending on your power supply.
 

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i7-870 / i7-875k whatever you get cheap, used or new. Btw you can pair this cpu with alot better GPU:s and have good gaming experience even with games like fortnite dont get fooled by the old age.

You dont bottleneck gpu:s like gtx 670 / 780 even without overclocking and can go 780ti 970 with slight oc, depending on your power supply.
Yeah i thought about it for some time, and i'll get a used gtx 750 ti
 

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Yeah i thought about it for some time, and i'll get a used gtx 750 ti
If you don't need to go for low power or lower profile, I'd definitely spring for something higher performance than the 750 Ti. The 670/780/780 ti/970 all spank the 750 Ti:
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-750-ti.c2548
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-670.c362
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-780.c1701
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-780-ti.c2512
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-970.c2620
 
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I have i7 875k which Is literally Same cpu than i7 870 and im pairing it with 980ti which Is better than 1060 6gb for example. However if you dont olan To oc Hard then then get something like 1060 Or 970 Or 780ti Or 980
 

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I have/had multiple PC:s running this socket motherboard. There are many boards which have good vrm:s to last decade of overclocking. I currently have Asus p7p55d as my motherboard in 2 pc:s and its a stable choice for 4ghz+ overclock.

With i7-870 and i7-875k you hit oc "wall" alot faster than i5 non hyperthreading cpu:s but i still suggest going i7-870 or 4 core 8 thread xeon since games are optimized really well for 8+ thread gaming nowdays.

This is passmark score of 2nd PC which has 4.05ghz oc. I got stable 4.25ghz on another PC. https://www.passmark.com/baselines/V9/display.php?id=135483119934
You can also get ram pretty high speed on these boards unlike x58 i heard its way harder. Im currently running 2300mhz and 2250mhz.

Is speed-battle.com a benchmark? Havent used it.
 

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OP: you need to check if your motherboard bios has overclocking settings or you willl be running your i7 or i5 on stock speeds. Just take pictures of bios and post here if uncertain.

Also your motherboard might not support 16gb ram atleast on dual channel like p7p55d (its not supported but works well)
 

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I have/had multiple PC:s running this socket motherboard. There are many boards which have good vrm:s to last decade of overclocking. I currently have Asus p7p55d as my motherboard in 2 pc:s and its a stable choice for 4ghz+ overclock.

With i7-870 and i7-875k you hit oc "wall" alot faster than i5 non hyperthreading cpu:s but i still suggest going i7-870 or 4 core 8 thread xeon since games are optimized really well for 8+ thread gaming nowdays.

This is passmark score of 2nd PC which has 4.05ghz oc. I got stable 4.25ghz on another PC. https://www.passmark.com/baselines/V9/display.php?id=135483119934
You can also get ram pretty high speed on these boards unlike x58 i heard its way harder. Im currently running 2300mhz and 2250mhz.

Is speed-battle.com a benchmark? Havent used it.
Thank you for the details. That's amazing that you're able to run OC memory as well. You're practically running with the i7-2600 and i7-3770 on the 1156 platform which is pretty unreal!

It's not a benchmark per se, but a really quick and dirty single thread performance evaluation that you varies browser to browser, but still gives a solid idea of what a system can do once you're used to it.
 

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Thank you for the details. That's amazing that you're able to run OC memory as well. You're practically running with the i7-2600 and i7-3770 on the 1156 platform which is pretty unreal!

It's not a benchmark per se, but a really quick and dirty single thread performance evaluation that you varies browser to browser, but still gives a solid idea of what a system can do once you're used to it.
If you look at passmark benchmark scores for i7-2600 (score 8,400) and i7-3770 (9.500 score) those are imbossible results to get with any oc on lynnfield chips. Best i can do is about 7250 score with 4.3ghz but its not bad score i talked about this in another thread its same score as stock i5-7400 which is from 2017, thats 7 years newer cpu.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-7400+@+3.00GHz&id=2929

If op gets hes chip to atleast 3.7-3.8ghz with that motherboard its about 6500 score which is not bad at all and wont bottleneck gtx 970

I can use XMP profile to get 2133mhz stable easy on the ram, but this depends entirely on the CPU:s imc (memory controller) and you can get fairly decent timings manually even up to 2250-2300mhz with some motherboards / cpu:s.
 

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If you look at passmark benchmark scores for i7-2600 (score 8,400) and i7-3770 (9.500 score) those are imbossible results to get with any oc on lynnfield chips. Best i can do is about 7250 score with 4.3ghz but its not bad score i talked about this in another thread its same score as stock i5-7400 which is from 2017, thats 7 years newer cpu.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-7400+@+3.00GHz&id=2929

If op gets hes chip to atleast 3.7-3.8ghz with that motherboard its about 6500 score which is not bad at all and wont bottleneck gtx 970

I can use XMP profile to get 2133mhz stable easy on the ram, but this depends entirely on the CPU:s imc (memory controller) and you can get fairly decent timings manually even up to 2250-2300mhz with some motherboards / cpu:s.
I was mainly thinking in terms of single thread performance as you're right--the HT does boost the core count and overall performance numbers. But being able to run the same as an i5-7400 is pretty amazing and really shows the value potential of these older systems for those that are willing to invest a little time and effort into them:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i5-7400-vs-Intel-i7-2600-vs-Intel-i7-3770/2929vs1vs896

That really great to know. Now I wonder what I could push my i5-680 chips to.

Wow, that's pretty solid numbers on the ram and makes a huge difference in performance over stock when coupled with the oc.
 

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I still suggest going atleast i7-2600k / i7-3770k for new budget builds since these have avx support (directx 12 uses avx)
But if you have already lga1156 motherboard or i7 / i5 chip then its not waste of money if you get cheap deal for the part you want and dont mind playing newest AAA games. Im getting around 150+ fps on fortnite and 250fps+ in csgo. These are with low settings obviously.

With i5-680 you can get around 200-300mhz more , even 4.4-4.5ghz is possible since you only have 4 cores. This means you need decent cooling and motherboard coupled with dual channel ram (2x4 or 2x8gb)

I can get 200mhz more with i7-875k and i7-870 if i disable hyperthreading but theres no point since some games i play use all 8 threads well.
 

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I still suggest going atleast i7-2600k / i7-3770k for new budget builds since these have avx support (directx 12 uses avx)
But if you have already lga1156 motherboard or i7 / i5 chip then its not waste of money if you get cheap deal for the part you want and dont mind playing newest AAA games. Im getting around 150+ fps on fortnite and 250fps+ in csgo. These are with low settings obviously.

With i5-680 you can get around 200-300mhz more , even 4.4-4.5ghz is possible since you only have 4 cores. This means you need decent cooling and motherboard coupled with dual channel ram (2x4 or 2x8gb)

I can get 200mhz more with i7-875k and i7-870 if i disable hyperthreading but theres no point since some games i play use all 8 threads well.
Oh I don't game at all--just look at high res pdfs. Maxing out the current gear is the only goal, and I didn't think these levels of performance were even possible until you posted.

Actually the i5-680 has only 2 cores with HT, so it sounds like it might be able to boost even more.

Luckily viewing a pdf is basically a single thread operation so as long as the single thread performance increases nicely, it would be a worthwhile upgrade.
 

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