Cpu Upgrade opinions

[dctchdt]

So right now i'm sitting with
Asus Z97 a
24 Gb ram ddr3
I5 4690k
Gtx 1070 ti
R7 250 2gb (for 2nd monitor

So my cpu is going on 5 years now and i can see the slow downs and low fps in newer games and it bottlenecks some of my games when it comes to cpu intensive games and i would like to watch youtube on the 2nd monitor at the same time hopefully.

I was thinking of picking up a I7 7700k but the new i5 8600k is beating it in newer games and over 150 pounds cheaper and grab me new ddr4 16gb ram and a new motherboard just wondering or asking for a opinion on the i5 8600k or something else i run at 1080p but maybe in a year or 2 i would like maybe to try 4k

 

[Imacflier]

you might consider just going to a i7 4790k: a good fit for that 1070ti, no need to change MB or ram, overclockable, and can support multiple monitors. Not really up to 4k, but neither is a 1070ti.

Larry

 

[Karadjgne]

First, I'd try dumping the r7 250. You absolutely do not need a second gpu to run the second monitor, it'll all power from that 1070ti with no issues at all. Seriously surprised you got both sets of drivers working as there almost always seems to be conflicts between nvidia and amd drivers.

You'll need a 1080ti/2080/2080ti to handle any new games at 4k

 

[maddogfargo]

you might consider just going to a i7 4790k: a good fit for that 1070ti, no need to change MB or ram, overclockable, and can support multiple monitors. Not really up to 4k, but neither is a 1070ti.

Larry

I agree with Larry. He pretty much nailed it.

 

[dctchdt]

you might consider just going to a i7 4790k: a good fit for that 1070ti, no need to change MB or ram, overclockable, and can support multiple monitors. Not really up to 4k, but neither is a 1070ti.

Larry

i looked at the i7 4790k but i want to go up to the new ram and motherboard socket to something new and modern and in like 5 years time i have some where to go due to the i7 4790k is a dead end

 

[dctchdt]

First, I'd try dumping the r7 250. You absolutely do not need a second gpu to run the second monitor, it'll all power from that 1070ti with no issues at all. Seriously surprised you got both sets of drivers working as there almost always seems to be conflicts between nvidia and amd drivers.

You'll need a 1080ti/2080/2080ti to handle any new games at 4k

the monitors i use use hdmi and the gtx 1070 ti has only one hdmi slot i got 2 harddrives and 2 ssds and both drivers and had no problems with it

 

[Karadjgne]

Much depends on your budget. I5-8400 is pretty close in ability to a i7-4790k, and Intels don't see any real advantage from ram speeds higher than 2666MHz in most games (stock 8th gen MC speed), so a trade up from a i7-4790k to an i5-8400 isn't going to really show much if any, gains. Not enough to really warrant a $500 price tag.

The cpu sets fps limits, gpu just has to live up to that, so realistically, there's little difference between 1080p/60Hz and 4k/60Hz as far as a cpu goes. The limiting difference being the gpu working 4+ x as hard. A i7-4790k is well capable of 4k in any game, it'll be that 1070ti which doesn't cut it at anything higher than low-med settings.

The biggest issue is your current i5. Not it's clock speeds, or IPC, but it's 4 threads. Modern games are heading into 8thread optimization, even older games such as GTA:V and BF1, and mmorpgs such as WoW with high server drops. It's the 4 threads getting swamped that's holding you back.

 

[dctchdt]

Much depends on your budget. I5-8400 is pretty close in ability to a i7-4790k, and Intels don't see any real advantage from ram speeds higher than 2666MHz in most games (stock 8th gen MC speed), so a trade up from a i7-4790k to an i5-8400 isn't going to really show much if any, gains. Not enough to really warrant a $500 price tag.

The cpu sets fps limits, gpu just has to live up to that, so realistically, there's little difference between 1080p/60Hz and 4k/60Hz as far as a cpu goes. The limiting difference being the gpu working 4+ x as hard. A i7-4790k is well capable of 4k in any game, it'll be that 1070ti which doesn't cut it at anything higher than low-med settings.

The biggest issue is your current i5. Not it's clock speeds, or IPC, but it's 4 threads. Modern games are heading into 8thread optimization, even older games such as GTA:V and BF1, and mmorpgs such as WoW with high server drops. It's the 4 threads getting swamped that's holding you back.

Was Actually looking at the i5 8600k so i can stream and play games cause the 6 cores

 

[Karadjgne]

Streaming = threads. For what you'd pay for basically equitable game performance, the Ryzen r7 2700x will dust an i5-8600k when it comes to streaming and gaming simultaneously. Modern games can easily use upto 8 threads, the 8600k has only 6, but makes up the lack in clock speeds and IPC. Ryzen has plenty of clock speed, equitable IPC but has a serious advantage in thread counts when it comes to multitasking. Expect to pay @$450ish for an 8600k, decent mobo and cpu cooler, or about that for an r7 2700x and mobo, before any other stuff like ram.