Question CPU upgrade question...

[slick2010]

im running an AMD Ryzen 3700x and i use the system 100% for gaming, would an AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D be worth it? i am considering this because of the up coming BF 6, im running a RTX 4060 Btw.

Thank You

 

[jnjnilson6]

im running an AMD Ryzen 3700x and i use the system 100% for gaming, would an AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D be worth it? i am considering this because of the up coming BF 6, im running a RTX 4060 Btw.

Thank You

I don't think there's a huge difference between them after seeing comparisons on www.cpu-monkey.com and www.cpu.userbenchmark.com . Thank you for writing up! 😉

 

[slick2010]

I just figured i would get a little more out of my AM4 board before I do a complete upgrade to an AM 5 board. any suggestions?

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[LordVile]

im running an AMD Ryzen 3700x and i use the system 100% for gaming, would an AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D be worth it? i am considering this because of the up coming BF 6, im running a RTX 4060 Btw.

Thank You

The 5700X3D should be significantly faster for gaming. Don’t listen to CPU comparison sites they’re frequently wrong outside of benchmarking tools

The 5700X3D is around 5% slower than the 5800X3D however it’s up to 1.5x the performance of the 3700X in gaming

https://www.techspot.com/review/2762-amd-ryzen-upgrade-vs-intel-platform/#Performance_Summary

 

[Eximo]

I think it would be worth it. Cinebench is only a single test, not really a gaming load at all.

General numbers show anywhere from 20-200FPS gains depending on the title.

If you are aiming for performance and keeping resolution and settings low then it will have more of an impact. If you are trying to get the most out of your graphics card, then the GPU will be the limit.

 

[LordVile]

I think it would be worth it. Cinebench is only a single test, not really a gaming load at all.

General numbers show anywhere from 20-200FPS gains depending on the title.

If you are aiming for performance and keeping resolution and settings low then it will have more of an impact. If you are trying to get the most out of your graphics card, then the GPU will be the limit.

It does however make the platform better for an upgraded GPU. If I were on a 58/700X3D I doubt I’d upgrade until AM6

 

[jnjnilson6]

It does however make the platform better for an upgraded GPU. If I were on a 58/700X3D I doubt I’d upgrade until AM6

Do you think by the end of the decade the higher middle-class of CPUs would have 32 cores or more? Or is the speculation regarding the 52 core Nova Lake specification simply a myth?

Nobody can know for sure; but it would be cool if you'd share your predictions.

On my side, I still think that by 2029-2030 anything over 32 cores would still be pretty high-end.

I still remember the long, long time through which 4 cores / 8 threads were the thing. Thank God AMD arose once again from the dust to bring in some competition; otherwise things would have changed much more slowly.

 

[LordVile]

Do you think by the end of the decade the higher middle-class of CPUs would have 32 cores or more? Or is the speculation regarding the 52 core Nova Lake specification simply a myth?

Nobody can know for sure; but it would be cool if you'd share your predictions.

On my side, I still think that by 2029-2030 anything over 32 cores would still be pretty high-end.

I still remember the long, long time through which 4 cores / 8 threads were the thing. Thank God AMD arose once again from the dust to bring in some competition; otherwise things would have changed much more slowly.

Probably not because there’s no need. AMD wouldn’t cannibalise their HEDT line more than they already have.

Also for gaming it doesn’t make much sense. The 9600X performs about the same as a 9950X it’s within 10%. From AMD the 3D V-Cache is the performance enhancer not cores, the 9xxx chips with it perform significantly better than the regular chips and perform about level with each other with the 9800X3D and the 9950X3D being within error margins in my eyes. The 5800X3D still performs about the same as the 9600X too and is only about 10% slower than the 9950X

 

[Eximo]

On my side, I still think that by 2029-2030 anything over 32 cores would still be pretty high-end.

I still remember the long, long time through which 4 cores / 8 threads were the thing.

If you mean for gaming, no not really. Those high core count CPUs are about maximum throughput, not per core performance.

That is the main thing with Intel's planning. They are vastly increasing the E core count for multithread. AMD, due to their extreme modularity, is kind of stuck with adding more full sized cores. They do have compact cores, but those aren't really making it into desktop so far. Either mobile or server for now. They could make a hybrid chip for desktop, but I don't see that happening outside of the APU class.

32 cores purchased today is likely going to be 'mid-range' 5 years from now. We saw that with Threadripper. Those 16-32 core CPUs look good on paper, but you throw a 16 core Zen 5 part at them and they tend to lose. It will be the same. The node shrinks are architecture improvements, maybe even feature improvements, will more than make up for less cores.

I think we will see 16 core high end chips become normal for the general enthusiast as 8 core is today. And I think 8 core will become the new budget category (like 6 cores has become today). Particularly with Zen 6, if they are doing 12 core CCD, which will make the top chip consumer chip 24c. Intel is already leaning towards 16P cores and 32 e cores, plus LP power cores.

I think we are going to see the end of the quad core outside of low power solutions within the next generation hardware.

 

[artk2219]

im running an AMD Ryzen 3700x and i use the system 100% for gaming, would an AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D be worth it? i am considering this because of the up coming BF 6, im running a RTX 4060 Btw.

Thank You

It would be worth it, its a good 40%+ performance difference between the two if the game takes advantage of the extra cache. Even without the extra cache its still a 20 - 25% performance difference, and it mostly maxes out your CPU performance for the socket. You would likely be good for another 2 - 3 years with that upgrade.

 

[jnjnilson6]

It would be worth it, its a good 40%+ performance difference between the two if the game takes advantage of the extra cache. Even without the extra cache its still a 20 - 25% performance difference, and it mostly maxes out your CPU performance for the socket. You would likely be good for another 2 - 3 years with that upgrade.

How's the RX 7900 XTX? Suppose it's a great GPU; like the Radeon HD 7970 GHz used to be back in the day; there was even a 6 GB Vapor-X version.

Built a PC with a friend of mine (U7 265K, 64 GB RAM, Sapphire RX 7800 XT). He's very happy with the U7 265K and the 7800 XT and the machine overall. He's an animator.