CPU upgrade skylake i5 vs xeon haswell

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I want to upgrade my system to an intel system and so far I've come to 2 options.
Going to an E3-1231 v3 Xeon cpu or going to a skylake i5 (when it releases).
Though I don't know enough about xeons and skylake is still vague. From what I've heard skylake doesn't support standard DDR 3 ram, only DDR3L for notebooks and DDR4 for desktops. I really wouldn't want to upgrade my ram aswell. I don't know where to go and I would like some advice. My main usage is gaming so I want a high IPC cpu. I don't know which mobo to take with the xeon, though I want a cheaper one. I think that I am going to upgrade somewhere in 2H 2015.
My build right now is: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Z28ZK8
 
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A few here and there, but nothing major. Most annoying might be very early Z87 chipsets and the USB3.0 sleep issue. (Computers won't come out of sleep if a USB3.0 device is plugged in)

You may require a BIOS update to run some of the latest Haswell CPUs. Including the one you've selected.

If you happen to have access to another LGA1150 CPU, not an issue, if not, you will need to take it to a nearby computer repair store or send it back to MSI to be flashed.
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I heard that they are made from the same die, is that true?
 
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FWIW, a lot of "normal" motherboards support Xeon processors, e.g. ASUS's Z97-Pro supports both i7's and Xeons (although if you use a Xeon, ECC memory won't work, as the chipset doesn't support it) - you might have to dig into the detailed CPU support list to check, though, rather than it saying on the main page.


I saw someone claiming to be from Intel's community team post that i7's and Xeon's were the same (ignoring the IGP).

 
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Z97 = Haswell, and upcoming Broadwell (LGA1150) , Broadwell desktop processors should be available soon.

Z107 (proposed name in Intel's roadmap) = Skylake LGA1151 with DDR4 support (They may offer a chipset, probably not the Z series, that accepts both DDR3L and DDR4 in the desktop form factor)

Available now is Haswell E series with DDR4 on the X99 LGA2011-3 platform, which should represent a better upgrade path. However, that means buying all new ram now.

I suppose the question is whether or not you are having issues running anything right now. If you are, then an i7-4790k represents the best option. The Xeon 1230 and 1231 are well priced, but don't give you that 4Ghz base clock (or the 4.4 Ghz boost) I think the extra money is worth it. Especially since you then don't have to buy new memory.
 
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you just told me a lot of things I already knew, but I will increase the baseclock of the xeon a bit anyway, I don't want to pay another 100 euro's for 0,5 ghz more.

Anyway, what z87 or z97 mobo would you guys recommend?
 
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Yes, all of the Haswell class chips are from the same design. If you look closely at the features list they are identical aside from a few carefully chosen features removed from the i7 chips.

Certain motherboards will support ECC memory with LGA1150 Xeons, though they are quite expensive usually. Chipsets C222, C224, or C226 will let you build a LGA1150 Xeon system with DDR3 ECC.
 
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Z97/Z87, 2way SLI, 5 sata 6gb/s, Full ATX, support for atleast 5 case fans, preferably raid 0 support, I want to spend just under 90 euros, I've looked at the ga z87 d3h...

BTW, no need for ecc, just gonna use my onld corsair vengeance ram.

 
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Can go cheaper on motherboard but I liked the look of this one, you can change it to any compatible you want and just add a fan controller like I did for your needs, most motherboards (including cheap) support Raid.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A (NFC Express Edition) ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Fan Controller: Kingwin FPX-001 Fan Controller ($13.99 @ Directron)
Total: $308.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-15 16:34 EDT-0400
 
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I presume you mean standard ATX. Full ATX would be the common term for EATX (10-11 slots) and XL ATX (10-11 slots, but wider) Neither type would fit in your mid-tower case.

If you are going to be paying in Euro it would help to know what country. Nothing below 100 Euro that meet your requirements on partpicker at the moment. Might have to track down some used parts or local sales.

Though Newegg will ship that Z87-A motherboard to some European countries for 85 Euro. Shipping would put it over though probably.
 
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The Netherlands, and I meant standard ATX, and I would like a blue mobo ( sorry if I'm picky). I can say an Asrock z97 extreme3 is 111 euro. so you can use it as a reference.
 
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A few here and there, but nothing major. Most annoying might be very early Z87 chipsets and the USB3.0 sleep issue. (Computers won't come out of sleep if a USB3.0 device is plugged in)

You may require a BIOS update to run some of the latest Haswell CPUs. Including the one you've selected.

If you happen to have access to another LGA1150 CPU, not an issue, if not, you will need to take it to a nearby computer repair store or send it back to MSI to be flashed.
 
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