Question Crash issue with Ryzen 5 3600X

[Perceval21]

Hi,
I have a problem with my Ryzen 5 3600X, practically when on the power settings I put the maximum level CPU use 100% (4.3 GHz) the system crashes sometimes when under stress others random crashes, this all stock without any OC.
Now I would like to understand what is the problem if you need to know the temperatures under stress it reaches 52 degrees that do not seem exaggerated to crash for overheat. I will also leave my components below.

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600X

MOBO: MSI B450 GAMING PLUS MAX

Storage: Sabrent SSD 1TB Rocket NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 + Seagate ST1000DM010 HDD 1TB

RAM: Viper Steel DDR4 3733 16GB

GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8GB VENTUS OC

 

[ProfSeaGoat]

Although Viper Steel memory worked great on both my 5600X and 5800X they may not with the Ryzen 3000 series.
Have you attempted using your memory in it's default SPD speed (2133) rather than XMP? Turn off XMP and see if it happens again.

 

[Perceval21]

I tried it and it is this way so are you saying that my memory are not the best for my configuration? Is not possible to make them work even at 3200mhz if I use all manual settings for them in BIOS?

 

[ProfSeaGoat]

I tried it and it is this way so are you saying that my memory are not the best for my configuration? Is not possible to make them work even at 3200mhz if I use all manual settings for them in BIOS?

You can try 3200mhz with say CL 15 timings, but Viper Steel, the 3733mhz kit is Hynix CJR, not the best. CL16 is likely what you will get at 3200mhz.

The Ryzen 3000 series have weaker memory controllers than the 5000 series, this is the reason.

 

[Perceval21]

You can try 3200mhz with say CL 15 timings, but Viper Steel, the 3733mhz kit is Hynix CJR, not the best. CL16 is likely what you will get at 3200mhz.

The Ryzen 3000 series have weaker memory controllers thean the 5000 series, this is the reason.

I don't have much experience on this I more or less know that there are main 5 parameters and other more for ram so what parameters I should go on BIOS?

 

[ProfSeaGoat]

I don't have much experience on this I more or less know that there are main 5 parameters and other more for ram so what parameters I should go on BIOS?

For now just set your memory to 3200mhz at the default timings (Just select 3200mhz speed).

 

[Perceval21]

For now just set your memory to 3200mhz at the default timings (Just select 3200mhz speed).

Ok I'll reset the BIOS and try that lets see if it's stable ,any recommendation of RAM for future for this build for work perfectly anyway?

 

[ProfSeaGoat]

Ok I'll reset the BIOS and try that lets see if it's stable ,any recommendation of RAM for future for this build for work perfectly anyway?

Personally I have 2 kits of Patriot Viper Steel 3733mhz on my X570 Aorus Elite from Gigabyte (32GB total) and have not had to adjust anything with my 5800X, runs stable and very fast.
The previous 5600X only ran 1 kit (16GB)

The only thing I would say is grab a 5600X but if your CPU right now is not a limit for your gaming experiences and you are happy, there is not much point, but the 5000 series are quite a bit faster and more stable than 3000 series with highly clocked memory.

 

[bentheblobfish]

Hi,
I have a problem with my Ryzen 5 3600X, practically when on the power settings I put the maximum level CPU use 100% (4.3 GHz) the system crashes sometimes when under stress others random crashes, this all stock without any OC.
Now I would like to understand what is the problem if you need to know the temperatures under stress it reaches 52 degrees that do not seem exaggerated to crash for overheat. I will also leave my components below.

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600X

MOBO: MSI B450 GAMING PLUS MAX

Storage: Sabrent SSD 1TB Rocket NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 + Seagate ST1000DM010 HDD 1TB

RAM: Viper Steel DDR4 3733 16GB

GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8GB VENTUS OC

Try to go into BIOS, disable Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO). It is automatic overclocking built into BIOS. Also, I wouldnt use maximum performance. It forces the CPU to stay at 100% which can be bad for longevity. At the very least, set the minimum processor state to something like 10%.

 

[Perceval21]

Try to go into BIOS, disable Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO). It is automatic overclocking built into BIOS. Also, I wouldnt use maximum performance. It forces the CPU to stay at 100% which can be bad for longevity. At the very least, set the minimum processor state to something like 10%.

Yeah but my problem that It didn't care about 10 or 80% Min it would crash anyway thanks for advice I'm still testing if is stable btw I use it Min 95% that is 3.6 GHz that shouldn't be dangerous and the core go to sleep in idle with about 23 C of temp

 

[Perceval21]

Nothing man it crashes even only if i set memory at 3200mhz without xamp idk what else i can do no faulty ram no overheat damn

 

[egda23]

What Bios version ? Successive versions usually introduce improved compatibility with various parts
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-GAMING-PLUS-MAX/support#down-bios

And as you can note your RAM Is not on the QVL with your CPU
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-GAMING-PLUS-MAX/support#support-mem-19
Did this problem appear immediately when you started using this ram ?

 

[Perceval21]

What Bios version ? Successive versions usually introduce improved compatibility with various parts
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-GAMING-PLUS-MAX/support#down-bios

And as you can note your RAM Is not on the QVL with your CPU
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-GAMING-PLUS-MAX/support#support-mem-19
Did this problem appear immediately when you started using this ram ?

I have last version of BIOS anyway no because the first 6 months i didnt change anything in the BIOS for sure i wasnt using ram at 3200mhz or above

 

[Perceval21]

However in the end it seems maybe I solved it by setting the voltage of the Cpu cores to 1.475v in BIOS but the actual ones looking at HWInfo the sensors are 1.438v in the Vid core while on the single cores maximum reaches 1.469v but usually it is at 1.425v now also I see that the CPU frequencies sometimes reach 4.375mhz but not always only in a few situations so I believe that my CPU was not receiving enough voltage and therefore could not hold the RAM. I first tested half an hour of PRIME95 with 0 crash then today I did the usual I always do and never crashed once obviously I have to see in the next days. Any opinion if the voltage is too high? even if I know up to 1.5v the r5 3600x is affixed considering that they are not then effected in the system.