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> >What do I need to learn a level 6 spell (haste/identify),
> >how about a level 7 spell (freezing cloud, ensorcled hibernation)?
>
> A rough rule of thumb is that to cast a spell reliably you need double
> the skill level of the spell level, so freezing cloud needs the averge
> of your Ice, Air and Conjuration skills to be 14ish. Booster items can
> reduce these requirements substantially. Heavy armour and shields (see
> below) will greatly increase them.
>
The problem i'm having is learning the spell in the first place (int 20), I
haven't successfully learned a level 6 or 7 spell. Bolt of cold (very good)
at level 5 casts fairly dependably, but i've tried repeatedly for a couple
level 6/7 spells and I always fail to memorize them. I'm now xl14 with l11
spell casting, l13 conjuration and l13 ice. l6 enchantment and l3
evocations.
> >on lair level 7 (+1 chain of poison resist, +1 large shield (skill 3),
and
>
> You're a wizard. Why are you wearing heavy armour? The chain mail and
> the shield will completely screw your casting success rates. Take 'em
> off.
Normally wear a +5 robe instead of the chain of poison resist. Swapped back
to the robe if I have a potion of healing to handle curing oison. Of
course, with bolt of cold they don't normally get close enough to poison me.
But normally wear the shield, although i'm not really sure what it actually
does since it doesn't apply directly to AC. I used throw frost for a very
long time because it was the best offensive spell I had (pitifull isn't
it?). In any case, robe AC is 24 (10) now with armor spell cast and mace
of brilliance wielded.
> >And a few more questions... I've seen a +0 dragon armor in a shop,
haven't
> >gotten the $ to buy it yet. Will there be some other odifer to it once
I
> >purchase it such as gold/steam/whatever?
>
> No, a dragon armour is an item type of its own: it provides 2 levels of
> fire resistance and -1 level of cold resistance. It's also quite light,
> so suitable for a spellcaster. Get the money from the Orcish Mines.
>
What's the AC value? Giving up the +5 robe is gonna hurt AC. Of course, I
still haven't run across a helmet or gloves so by the time I have the $ I
might have the armor to make up the loss in relation to where I am
currently.
> > In the same shop there is a ring
> >of ice, since that's the primary magic I use is it worth giving up the
extra
> >9 magic points (ring of magical power) for the extra damage provided by a
> >roi?
>
> Definitely, without a question. Note that the +1 cold/-1 fire provided
> by the ring of ice mostly cancels with the dragon armour resistances, so
> these two make a good combo.
>
Okay, I bought the ring of ice. I also split the difference with the ring
of magic power. I keep it on for the first two casts of bolt of cold (or
whatever brings me down 9 points) and then waste two turns swapping out. It
hasn't gotten me killed yet...... Took down a death yak herd and a
five-headed hydra. Gotta love that bolt of cold! up..over...over..fire!
You kill the ... and the ... and the ... Yeah!
Cecil
P.s. Since I originally wrote this (went out as email rather than news
post) i've picked up a staff of power and ditched one of the rings of magic
power in order to keep the ROI on at all times. Also found a staff of
channeling, but haven't figured out what it's good for.... Help? Looked at
some spoilers (well, one anyway) and apparently it's something similar to a
staff of energy, but I still haven't figured out how to use it.
>
> >What do I need to learn a level 6 spell (haste/identify),
> >how about a level 7 spell (freezing cloud, ensorcled hibernation)?
>
> A rough rule of thumb is that to cast a spell reliably you need double
> the skill level of the spell level, so freezing cloud needs the averge
> of your Ice, Air and Conjuration skills to be 14ish. Booster items can
> reduce these requirements substantially. Heavy armour and shields (see
> below) will greatly increase them.
>
The problem i'm having is learning the spell in the first place (int 20), I
haven't successfully learned a level 6 or 7 spell. Bolt of cold (very good)
at level 5 casts fairly dependably, but i've tried repeatedly for a couple
level 6/7 spells and I always fail to memorize them. I'm now xl14 with l11
spell casting, l13 conjuration and l13 ice. l6 enchantment and l3
evocations.
> >on lair level 7 (+1 chain of poison resist, +1 large shield (skill 3),
and
>
> You're a wizard. Why are you wearing heavy armour? The chain mail and
> the shield will completely screw your casting success rates. Take 'em
> off.
Normally wear a +5 robe instead of the chain of poison resist. Swapped back
to the robe if I have a potion of healing to handle curing oison. Of
course, with bolt of cold they don't normally get close enough to poison me.
But normally wear the shield, although i'm not really sure what it actually
does since it doesn't apply directly to AC. I used throw frost for a very
long time because it was the best offensive spell I had (pitifull isn't
it?). In any case, robe AC is 24 (10) now with armor spell cast and mace
of brilliance wielded.
> >And a few more questions... I've seen a +0 dragon armor in a shop,
haven't
> >gotten the $ to buy it yet. Will there be some other odifer to it once
I
> >purchase it such as gold/steam/whatever?
>
> No, a dragon armour is an item type of its own: it provides 2 levels of
> fire resistance and -1 level of cold resistance. It's also quite light,
> so suitable for a spellcaster. Get the money from the Orcish Mines.
>
What's the AC value? Giving up the +5 robe is gonna hurt AC. Of course, I
still haven't run across a helmet or gloves so by the time I have the $ I
might have the armor to make up the loss in relation to where I am
currently.
> > In the same shop there is a ring
> >of ice, since that's the primary magic I use is it worth giving up the
extra
> >9 magic points (ring of magical power) for the extra damage provided by a
> >roi?
>
> Definitely, without a question. Note that the +1 cold/-1 fire provided
> by the ring of ice mostly cancels with the dragon armour resistances, so
> these two make a good combo.
>
Okay, I bought the ring of ice. I also split the difference with the ring
of magic power. I keep it on for the first two casts of bolt of cold (or
whatever brings me down 9 points) and then waste two turns swapping out. It
hasn't gotten me killed yet...... Took down a death yak herd and a
five-headed hydra. Gotta love that bolt of cold! up..over...over..fire!
You kill the ... and the ... and the ... Yeah!
Cecil
P.s. Since I originally wrote this (went out as email rather than news
post) i've picked up a staff of power and ditched one of the rings of magic
power in order to keep the ROI on at all times. Also found a staff of
channeling, but haven't figured out what it's good for.... Help? Looked at
some spoilers (well, one anyway) and apparently it's something similar to a
staff of energy, but I still haven't figured out how to use it.
I forgot about that. However: these attacks are very rare. Shield with
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