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I send another Xom-worshiping Minotaur Chaos Knight to his death today.

I seem to start out fine, but around level 7 or so, I start running into
stuff that ends up killing me.

Should I be shopping for better weapons or armour?

Should I be concentrating on different skills?

This current character had a heck of a problem with food. I found a
vampyric blade that seemed to increase my hunger problems, so I dropped
it, but still had the same problem. I kept having to dive deeper in the
mines to find food.

Around 3 levels down in the orcish mines, an iron golem took me out in
2 swings.

Advice? Suggestions? Help!

Thanks,

Jesse Meyer

--- dump ---
Dungeon Crawl version 4.0.0 beta 26 character file.

Dasunt the Cutter (Minotaur)
(Level 10 Chaos Knight)

Play time: 02:16:31 Number of turns: 25358

Experience : 10/8392
Strength 19 Dexterity 11 Intelligence 10
Hit Points : -3/87 (dead) Magic Points : 5
AC : 9 Evasion : 9 Shield : 5
GP : 459

You are in the Mines.
You worship Xom.
You are hungry.

Inventory:
Hand weapons
a - a +2,+2 short sword of speed
b - a +4,+6 elven dagger of freezing (weapon)
Missiles
B - 101 +0 darts
Armour
k - a +2 chain mail (worn)
p - a +1 cloak of preservation (worn)
J - a +0 shield (worn)
Magical devices
h - a wand of teleportation (3)
z - a wand of frost (1)
G - a wand of confusion (2)
O - a wand of teleportation (6)
Q - a wand of magic darts (13)
Scrolls
d - 2 scrolls of teleportation
i - a scroll of curse armour
Jewellery
f - a ring of protection from magic (right hand)
K - a ring of poison resistance (left hand)
Potions
e - a potion of speed
H - 2 potions of might
U - a potion of invisibility

Skills:
+ Level 9 Fighting
+ Level 12 Short Blades
- Level 3 Long Blades
+ Level 7 Armour
+ Level 2 Dodging
+ Level 1 Stabbing
+ Level 3 Shields
- Level 2 Unarmed Combat

Mutations & Other Weirdness
Your mind is acute (Int +1).
Armour fits poorly on your deformed body.
You are good at teleporting at will.
--- end dump ---


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Jesse Meyer wrote:
> I send another Xom-worshiping Minotaur Chaos Knight to his death today.

So don't do that then. CK start out with really weak skills. If you like
minotaurs you might consider a fighter, gladiator or monk and chose your
god later.

> I seem to start out fine, but around level 7 or so, I start running into
> stuff that ends up killing me.

So leave the big boys alone. Take the next stairs down und come back
when you are able to beat that OOD monster.

> Should I be shopping for better weapons or armour?

> a - a +2,+2 short sword of speed
> b - a +4,+6 elven dagger of freezing (weapon)

Minotaurs have much more fun with Str-based weapons (maces and axes), or
even unarmed combat (those horns give you an extra attack; use it).

> Missiles
> B - 101 +0 darts

heavy and useless. Take a bow or a blowgun instead.

> Armour
> k - a +2 chain mail (worn)
> p - a +1 cloak of preservation (worn)
> J - a +0 shield (worn)

IIRC Mi are bad with shields but good with armour. Remember that shields
slow down your attack rate.

> Should I be concentrating on different skills?

Yes (see above). Short blades are for the sneaky character types.

> This current character had a heck of a problem with food. I found a
> vampyric blade that seemed to increase my hunger problems, so I dropped
> it, but still had the same problem.

It will feed (and heal) you if you hit something. Just keep fighting.
With your ring of poison resistance you can eat almost anything that's
not rotten, so feed on kobolds and the like.

> I kept having to dive deeper in the
> mines to find food.

The mines are full of tasty orcs. What is your problem?

> Around 3 levels down in the orcish mines, an iron golem took me out in
> 2 swings.

Although you were full of teleportation items?

> Advice? Suggestions? Help!

When in doubt, run.

Lars
 
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Jesse Meyer <meyer@btinet.net> screamed:

> Around 3 levels down in the orcish mines, an iron golem took me
> out in 2 swings.

That was really bad luck. The only one I met (since having the
vanquished creatures dump) was in the Vaults. Next time you
encounter such an OOD monster, run.

> AC : 9 Evasion : 9 Shield : 5

AC/EV could have been a bit better.

> a - a +2,+2 short sword of speed
> b - a +4,+6 elven dagger of freezing (weapon)

That doesn't seem too useful a weapon for a pure fighter. Better
look for something with a punch. If Xom plays a joke and supplies
you with a dagger at the beginning of the game, use that for carving
up meat, but find something else to fight with, like an axe, or if
you find one, a long blade (or a mace even). Definitely don't spend
any Exp. on Short Blades, that'll be no good in the long run. Hardly
does even with lots of Stealth and Stabbing, and a fighter in heavy
armour doesn't get stealthy...

> p - a +1 cloak of preservation (worn)

I want one of those!

(Sorry, got distracted.)

> + Level 12 Short Blades
> - Level 3 Long Blades

These two would really be better off reversed. A great sword is
neat.

> - Level 2 Unarmed Combat

I'd leave that turned on. The occasional headbutt does no harm, IMO
(except the enemy, of course).

> You are good at teleporting at will.

What does that do? Or rather, where's the exact difference to these?

You can control translocations.
You can teleport at will.
You can translocate small distances instantaneously.

--
Tina the Worldly Agent - a Believer of the Robust Noxious Gristle
 
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In article <593969742@railroad.robin.de>,
Tina Hall <T.Hall@railroad.robin.de> wrote:
>
>You can control translocations.

You have teleport control.

>You can teleport at will.

Like it says.

>You can translocate small distances instantaneously.

Blink.

--
Mark Mackey
The Association for the Advancement of Dungeon Crawling
Hints, tips and spoilers
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Mark Mackey <markm@chiark.greenend.org.uk> moaned:
> Tina Hall <T.Hall@railroad.robin.de> wrote:

>> You can control translocations.

> You have teleport control.

>> You can teleport at will.

> Like it says.

>> You can translocate small distances instantaneously.

> Blink.

Yes, I'd like to know the difference (of either or a combination of
some or whatever) to:

"You are good at teleporting at will."

--
Tina the Slasher - an Initiate of the Rigidly Nosy Granny
 
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In article <595557429@railroad.robin.de>,
Tina Hall <T.Hall@railroad.robin.de> wrote:
>
>Yes, I'd like to know the difference (of either or a combination of
>some or whatever) to:
>
>"You are good at teleporting at will."

Ah, sorry, I misunderstood. That message simply means that you have two
levels of the 'you can teleport at will' mutation. Having more levels
means (a) a smaller chance that the mutation will be removed completely
by further mutations etc, (b) a smaller chance of failure when you
exercise that ability, and (c) if you get 3 levels of this mutation the
teleportation is instantaneous (no delay).

--
Mark Mackey
The Association for the Advancement of Dungeon Crawling
Hints, tips and spoilers
http://www.swallowtail.org/crawl/
 
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Mark Mackey <markm@chiark.greenend.org.uk> buzzed:
> Tina Hall <T.Hall@railroad.robin.de> wrote:

>> "You are good at teleporting at will."

> That message simply means that you have two levels of the 'you can
> teleport at will' mutation. [...] (c) if you get 3 levels of this
> mutation the teleportation is instantaneous (no delay).

Can those levels be reached with items, too? Like 3 artifacts with
the teleport ability, or 1 mutation + 2 artifacts?

--
Tina the Shooter - an Elder of the Ridiculous Nonplussed Goat
 
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In article <596084470@railroad.robin.de>,
Tina Hall <T.Hall@railroad.robin.de> wrote:
>
>Can those levels be reached with items, too? Like 3 artifacts with
>the teleport ability, or 1 mutation + 2 artifacts?

No.

--
Mark Mackey
The Association for the Advancement of Dungeon Crawling
Hints, tips and spoilers
http://www.swallowtail.org/crawl/
 
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