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I got to wonder... Since Blade Hands and Necromutation can't be
turned off, which of the others have the same bug? All?

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Tina Hall wrote:
> I got to wonder... Since Blade Hands and Necromutation can't be
> turned off, which of the others have the same bug? All?

There's no bug with ending either of those spells. You select 'End
Transformation' and it ends.

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Graeme Dice <grdice@sasktel.net.NOSPAM> bellowed:
> Tina Hall wrote:

>> I got to wonder... Since Blade Hands and Necromutation can't be
>> turned off, which of the others have the same bug? All?

> There's no bug with ending either of those spells.

I've mentioned often enough that Necromutation can't be ended.
(Don't remember whether I mentioned Blade Hands, too.)

> You select 'End Transformation' and it ends.

That is _not_ true.

I select 'End Transformation', get a message about 'You feel almost
normal.', and the transformation is still in effect. <repeat 16
times> <same result 16 times> Checking old emails I find that I
actually did just that with Spider Form (current character, some
time ago), so that's another where it doesn't work. My SEEE couldn't
end Blade Hands, my current character can't end Necromutation. I
tried a few times with each. There's not even any noticable
lessening in the duration of the spell.

So the question remains; do the remaining spells (Ice Form, Dragon
Form, something else?) have the same bug?

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In article <MSGID_2=3A240=2F2199.13=40fidonet_2a22e022@fidonet.org>,
Tina Hall <Tina_Hall@kruemel.org> wrote:
// Graeme Dice <grdice@sasktel.net.NOSPAM> bellowed:
// > Tina Hall wrote:
//
// >> I got to wonder... Since Blade Hands and Necromutation can't be
// >> turned off, which of the others have the same bug? All?
//
// > There's no bug with ending either of those spells.
//
// I've mentioned often enough that Necromutation can't be ended.
// (Don't remember whether I mentioned Blade Hands, too.)

It does end.

// > You select 'End Transformation' and it ends.
//
// That is _not_ true.

It is true.

// I select 'End Transformation', get a message about 'You feel almost
// normal.', and the transformation is still in effect. <repeat 16
// times> <same result 16 times>

I'll see your 16, and raise you to 32 working tests. In fact I know that
yours were working because of the message. THe transformations don't
go down immediately... your character is "almost normal"... it will go
down the very next turn (unless you're silly enough to keep reseting it).

// So the question remains; do the remaining spells (Ice Form, Dragon
// Form, something else?) have the same bug?

They all work the exact same way... it's the same ability.

Brent Ross
 
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Tina Hall wrote:
> Graeme Dice <grdice@sasktel.net.NOSPAM> bellowed:

<snip>

>>There's no bug with ending either of those spells.
>
>
> I've mentioned often enough that Necromutation can't be ended.
> (Don't remember whether I mentioned Blade Hands, too.)

And you were most likely ignored because it can be ended.

>>You select 'End Transformation' and it ends.
>
>
> That is _not_ true.

Of course it is. The fact that you don't understand the game mechaninc
doesn't mean that it isn't working.

> I select 'End Transformation', get a message about 'You feel almost
> normal.', and the transformation is still in effect.

And if you had waited one turn it would have ended.

> So the question remains; do the remaining spells (Ice Form, Dragon
> Form, something else?) have the same bug?

There is no such bug in the standard game, so it's most likely the
result of you messing around with the code if it exists at all.

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