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Rubinstein <picommander@t-online.de> screeched:
> Tina Hall wrote:
>> Rubinstein <picommander@t-online.de> whined:
>>> Tina Hall wrote:
>>>> Does Trog just not like casting spells by yourself, or does he
>>>> object to using spells from rods, too?
>>
>>> Trog doesn't complain about using wands. Since rods and wands
>>> are very similar kind of magic,
>>
>> Eh, spells in a book and spells in a rod are very similar kind
>> of magic.
> It's a matter of viewpoint: [...]
And I didn't know which one Trog took.
> You probably should define "casting spells by yourself".
In the guide and the spoiler, yes. (Here it was just a question
relating to my current game. The guide questions come later.)
> I wonder what else you could mean if not "casting spells out of
> your memory" rather then mechanically bound spells,
Eh? I did mean casting spells out of my memory rather than the ones
the rod knows.
> which also work if you don't *know* them already.
They seem to work oddly, though. The Summon Swarm brings friendly
monsters, without any Summoning skill, the Summon Elemental brings
me hostile elementals, I guess because I have no Earth skill. While
it is a rod of Summoning that presumably has only Summoning skill
in-build, I still think that a somewhat odd property for a device
made for those who can't cast those spells on their own. There's no
plug-in device that'll add the Earth skill... There aren't even
rings of Earth.
Maybe one should be able to strap a wand of earth to a rod of
summoning with some tape and/or thread. <g> (If you look at my
furniture you'd know where I got that idea, it's all that holds the
4th leg to the chair I sit on, for example.)
> If you only look at the spells, regardless of their origin, then
> it should read "Trog dislikes the use of _certain_ spells", which
> is not the case.
Eh? If he only likes self-cast spells rather than any spells,
including those bound in rods, then that is actually the case.
>>> I guess there's no problem here
>>
>> Guessing is not knowing.
> What you say. As long as nobody knows, guessing is better than
> nothing.
Guessing makes me no smarter than before, I can guess quite well on
my own, if I was satisfied with that I'd not have asked the
question.
--
Tina the Charm-Maker - the Champion of the Reborn Nitre Guilt
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