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How do I get out of that Labyrinth now?

I killed the minotaur, (I checked, there was a message about the
stairs when I moved onto the spot he'd sat on), identified and
sorted through all the junk lying around there, saved to post the
previous question, restarted, and now there are no more stairs.

Eek!

Something else odd. I cast Detect Monsters when I entered that
Labyrinth, and saw the 'm' in passing when running around the
corridors. After restarting I checked whether the stairs might
not be at the end of the corridoor (for whatever reason), and
when the place he'd sat on became dark again, the 'm' was back,
too.

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T.Hall@railroad.robin.de (Tina Hall) writes:

> How do I get out of that Labyrinth now?

> I killed the minotaur, (I checked, there was a message about the
> stairs when I moved onto the spot he'd sat on), identified and sorted
> through all the junk lying around there, saved to post the previous
> question, restarted, and now there are no more stairs.

If the game has really eaten the upstairs, you can fiddle around with
the save files to give yourself a brand new staircase up. The process
is somewhat tedious, and you'll need a hex editor (the DOS/Windows
'debug' is adequate):

1. First, figure out where your character was on the level. You'll need
to look at the foo.sav file for this (assuming your character is
called 'foo').

The offset into the file where the character's position coordinates
are stored depends on your character's name: 90 + (length of
character name). Make a note of the X and Y coordinates (x,y). Each
coordinate is stored as a two-byte integer.

2. Open the level file where your character is stranded (presumably
foo.lab), and change the byte at offset
16 + x * 210 + y * 3
to 86 (hex 0x56).

That should give you an upstairs where your character is standing.

Diclaimer: Backing up the save files before doing this is probably a
good idea, and this recipe will almost certainly fail when the savefile
formats change.

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Darshan Shaligram <darshans@aztec.soft.net> croaked:
> T.Hall@railroad.robin.de (Tina Hall) writes:

>> How do I get out of that Labyrinth now?

>> I killed the minotaur, (I checked, there was a message about the
>> stairs when I moved onto the spot he'd sat on), identified and
>> sorted through all the junk lying around there, saved to post the
>> previous question, restarted, and now there are no more stairs.

> If the game has really eaten the upstairs,

What do you mean 'if'? They're gone, neither visible nor
usable.

> you can fiddle around with the save files to give yourself a
> brand new staircase up.

Thanks. I hoped someone would come up with something like that.

> The process is somewhat tedious, and you'll need a hex editor
> (the DOS/Windows 'debug' is adequate):

I've got a normal hex-editor that I actually know how to use
(tried to work with debug a while ago, with some other game, and
never quite understood what I was doing wrong).

> 1. First, figure out where your character was on the level. You'll
> need to look at the foo.sav file for this (assuming your character
> is called 'foo').

> The offset into the file where the character's position
> coordinates are stored depends on your character's name: 90 +
> (length of character name). Make a note of the X and Y coordinates
> (x,y). Each coordinate is stored as a two-byte integer.

Hexadecimal 90+ or Decimal 90+?

('Integer' is one of those words that I'll probably never
understand, no matter how often it is explained.)

> 2. Open the level file where your character is stranded (presumably
> foo.lab), and change the byte at offset
> 16 + x * 210 + y * 3
> to 86 (hex 0x56).

Assuming you're talking about decimal in every case except 56
where you explicitely point it out (and hexadecimal doesn't make
much sense looking at those places), it doesn't work.

The name is Searar, so that's offset 96 in searar.sav:
00 18 00 24
That makes:
16 + 24 * 210 + 36 * 3 = 5164

Going to that in searar.lab, there's 43h (changed that to 56h,
still no stairs), the whole row would originally be:

Adress (hex): Data:
001420 43 00 65 02 00 65 02 00 65 02 00 65 43 00 65 02

If those numbers indicate floor space, 02h/43h for wall/floor or
the other way round, and it lists row after row, that doesn't
make sense anyway, as the place looks as follows:

#
#.
#.
#.
#.#########
#.@........
###########

(That's where the stairs - and the minotaur - originally were, I
came from the upwards corridor, to the right is a dead end.)

> That should give you an upstairs where your character is standing.

Not yet. I hope I just got the maths wrong somehow, though.

> Diclaimer: Backing up the save files before doing this is probably a
> good idea,

That I did anyway.

> and this recipe will almost certainly fail when the savefile
> formats change.

<shrug> I just don't want to lose my game to this bug.

(As an aside, of course the Slime Pits had no rune, I wanted to
collect as many as possible, after all. <g>)

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<Tina Hall> shouted:
> Darshan Shaligram <darshans@aztec.soft.net> croaked:

[snip problem about vanished upstairs in Labyrinth]
>> That should give you an upstairs where your character is standing.

> Not yet. I hope I just got the maths wrong somehow, though.

Update. I just looked at the .lab file, reasoning that there must
be some oddity in the regularity, indicating objects or something
else on the spot, found one, changed the 43h at that spot
(4952dec) to 56h and got some stairs, not on the spot I sat on
but in sight, for whatever reason (that's where I'd originally
dumped the junk, then put it back where it was, below the
character):

#
#.
#.
#.
#<#########
#.@........
###########

I'm happy with that, and back on level 1 of the Crypt now.

Thanks!

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