[SOLVED] Crucial m.2 health low

[P0tluck94]

i recently checked my drive health on both me os drive and me games drive , my os drive is a crucial (ct500p1ssd8) in crystal disk that health is 84% , my sandisk ssd is 99% , the temp on the crucial is 41 degrees Celsius , sandisk is 28Degreeg Celsius, this pc is not old , not even a year , why is the crucial m.2 health so low but the sandisk is 99% and they were both installed at the same time ?

is there anything i can do to improve the health on the m.2?
I will order a new m.2 if i have to but i literally have NO idea what i'm doing with these so i would have to take it in and have them do it which will cost me a fortune so i'm in a pickle,

crucials storage executive says drive good but it doesn't give any % and i don't know how to check to see what exactly is going on with the drive, any advice would be great

The new drive will be a WD , don't know if i'll go pro or not but i'll take opinions on that also ty in advance.

 

[Lafong]

My Crucial drive sits at 73 percent.

Signifying next to nothing.

You can draw inferences from that percentage if you care to, but the fact is that drive will likely work fine at 0 percent.

It can fail at any moment regardless of the percent reading.

You can't do much about that health reading other than ignore it if you are able to. If you are highly concerned rightly or wrongly and cannot ignore it, you can buy a new drive to alleviate the worry.

 

[P0tluck94]

My Crucial drive sits at 73 percent.

Signifying next to nothing.

You can draw inferences from that percentage if you care to, but the fact is that drive will likely work fine at 0 percent.

It can fail at any moment regardless of the percent reading.

You can't do much about that health reading other than ignore it if you are able to. If you are highly concerned rightly or wrongly and cannot ignore it, you can buy a new drive to alleviate the worry.

okay appreciate it , reason i checked cause programs open slow to my liking anyways , like example when i open up nvidia control panel it takes ages to get words, or if documents , or system information etc etc , its not rediculously slow but it should open faster i dont have anything on this drive but my os

 

[Lafong]

Something may be going on to explain the slowness, but the "drive health" percentage number doesn't have much relationship to that.

Has it slowed down recently.....or have you always been disappointed.

You may have unknown processes and applications running in the background, probably detectable in Task Manager.

What exact model number and capacity Crucial drive?

You may have some unnecessary and undesirable writing going onto the drive that could be reduced. But there's only a small chance it's a critical problem directly related to the drive's life expectancy.

9 people out of 10 will write under 20 TB per year to a drive. I write less than 5 TB. How many for you so far?

Excessive writes are normally just a way for the manufacturer to deny a warranty claim.......as opposed to a clear-cut explanation for reduced life expectancy.

 

[P0tluck94]

Something may be going on to explain the slowness, but the "drive health" percentage number doesn't have much relationship to that.

Has it slowed down recently.....or have you always been disappointed.

You may have unknown processes and applications running in the background, probably detectable in Task Manager.

What exact model number and capacity Crucial drive?

You may have some unnecessary and undesirable writing going onto the drive that could be reduced. But there's only a small chance it's a critical problem directly related to the drive's life expectancy.

9 people out of 10 will write under 20 TB per year to a drive. I write less than 5 TB. How many for you so far?

Excessive writes are normally just a way for the manufacturer to deny a warranty claim.......as opposed to a clear-cut explanation for reduced life expectancy.

its a crucial ct500p1ssd8 (500 gig) , 6824 reads, 30,325 writes, power on count is 71, hours is 11,707 which doesnt make any sense cause i havent had it long enough to have that many i dont think i'll have to get the date , it wasnt slow until a few weeks ago or at least i didnt notice , i have all my background apps turned off i also have fast boot disabled on the power button dont know if that matters any just thought i would add it , as far as processes task manager it says 99 background

 

[Lafong]

11707 hours is about 70 months; just short of 6 years.

You say the PC is under a year old. I assume that refers to the drive also.

Something fishy.

30325 writes; I assume that is GB, which is about 30 TB. Which is about what i would expect from a 6 year old drive.

But not what I would expect from a drive under a year old.

What are the chances the drive was in fact NOT new when you got the PC?

 

[P0tluck94]

11707 hours is about 70 months; just short of 6 years.

You say the PC is under a year old. I assume that refers to the drive also.

Something fishy.

30325 writes; I assume that is GB, which is about 30 TB. Which is about what i would expect from a 6 year old drive.

But not what I would expect from a drive under a year old.

What are the chances the drive was in fact NOT new when you got the PC?

i bought the pc prebuilt so its a good possibility but i have the package for it which is very very odd , and yes its GB which your numbers were correct, but 8,760 hours in a year but this pc isnt a year old

 

[Satan-IR]

You can also check drive health (SMART) with HD Sentinel from here (Trial is free).

11707 hours is about 70 months; just short of 6 years.

11707 hours is 487 days (24 hours). A month is 720 hours, 70 months would be over 50,000 hours. Assuming the 11707 hours is correct that it's 1 year and 4 months

 

[Lafong]

i bought the pc prebuilt so its a good possibility but i have the package for it which is very very odd , and yes its GB which your numbers were correct, but 8,760 hours in a year but this pc isnt a year old

Offhand..............

I'd try to attack the slowness generally, rather than get bogged down in the drive health percentage or whether or not you bought a used drive and were possibly defrauded.

 

[Lafong]

You can also check drive health (SMART) with HD Sentinel from here (Trial is free).

11707 hours is 487 days (24 hours). A month is 720 hours, 70 months would be over 50,000 hours. Assuming the 11707 hours is correct that it's 1 year and 4 months

Yep, my error entirely.

About 70 weeks, not 70 months.

 

[P0tluck94]

11707 hours is about 70 months; just short of 6 years.

You say the PC is under a year old. I assume that refers to the drive also.

Something fishy.

30325 writes; I assume that is GB, which is about 30 TB. Which is about what i would expect from a 6 year old drive.

But not what I would expect from a drive under a year old.

What are the chances the drive was in fact NOT new when you got the PC?

You can also check drive health (SMART) with HD Sentinel from here (Trial is free).

11707 hours is 487 days (24 hours). A month is 720 hours, 70 months would be over 50,000 hours. Assuming the 11707 hours is correct that it's 1 year and 4 months

i have crucial storage executive and crystal disk info is the other one better

 

[P0tluck94]

Offhand..............

I'd try to attack the slowness generally, rather than get bogged down in the drive health percentage or whether or not you bought a used drive and were possibly defrauded.

what do i look for as far as bogging it down , i have 32 gigs 3200 16 cas trident neo memory , ryzen 5 3600 , asus ko 3060ti oc 8 gb gpu , i know i had issues in the past with nvidia expierience maybe its that again?

 

[Lafong]

Storage Exec is not the sharpest tool in my experience.

Crystal Disk for the win.

 

[Satan-IR]

i bought the pc prebuilt so its a good possibility but i have the package for it which is very very odd , and yes its GB which your numbers were correct, but 8,760 hours in a year but this pc isnt a year old

Lafong is right though. If the total writes is around 30TB that's too much for a year. Unless something is constantly writing to the drive. What OS do you have? Might be older OS doing some scheduled degragmenting on the SSD which is not necessary.

i have crucial storage executive and crystal disk info is the other one better

It's a good utility but it's not necessarilty a matter of being better. You're getting to different sets of values for same variables. A third (reliable) option would probably show which is more accurate.

 

[Lafong]

this pc isnt a year old

How sure are you of that?

70 weeks is well beyond a year.

 

[P0tluck94]

Lafong is right though. If the total writes is around 30TB that's too much for a year. Unless something is constantly writing to the drive. What OS do you have? Might be older OS doing some scheduled degragmenting on the SSD which is not necessary.

It's a good utility but it's not necessarilty a matter of being better. You're getting to different sets of values for same variables. A third (reliable) option would probably show which is more accurate.

windows 10 home build 19043.1526 21h1 which i didnt realize it installed that i didnt want it too , which could be why its slow

 

[Satan-IR]

Anyway I'd install that to see which set of values for working hours and bytes written and estimated health % is more accurate.

That would give you a better picture if the drive is the problem or slowness has other cause/s.

 

[P0tluck94]

Anyway I'd install that to see which set of values for working hours and bytes written and estimated health % is more accurate.

That would give you a better picture if the drive is the problem or slowness has other cause/s.

heres what that program shows well pic wouldnt work

487 days 20 hours power on time
943 days remaining
29.62 writes
says perfect no weak or problematic sectors were found but health is 84%

 

[Lafong]

Per Crucial's own spec sheet............the TBW on that 500 GB drive is 100 TB.

You have written about 30. That is quite high for an ordinary user in roughly a year.

"Health" is 84%.

That is a relatively low TBW for a 500 GB drive.

There are drives half that size with twice that TBW.

I wouldn't be alarmed at all about the above numbers.

But I would investigate other possible reasons for "slowness", especially if this is a recent development.

 

[P0tluck94]

Per Crucial's own spec sheet............the TBW on that 500 GB drive is 100 TB.

You have written about 30. That is quite high for an ordinary user in roughly a year.

"Health" is 84%.

That is a relatively low TBW for a 500 GB drive.

There are drives half that size with twice that TBW.

I wouldn't be alarmed at all about the above numbers.

But I would investigate other possible reasons for "slowness", especially if this is a recent development.

okay what should i look into ? all temps are great i benchmark everything and all tests came back i look at usage and nothing stands out sigh.


i will google things to look into , much appreciated

 

[Lafong]

I'd try to find out "what's slow".

The 30 TB of writes in 70 weeks is high enough and unusual enough that I'd want to dig into it..........even though it is unlikely to be critical.

What are your primary tasks? I'm trying to figure out what might explain 30 TB writes that quickly.

Constant disk activity can be perceived as slowness overall, even though it might have minimal effect on the life span of an SSD.

"Benchmarks" and "tests" doesn't tell us much without detail.

Your CPU may be working heavily on some background process semi-constantly. That can obviously become noticeable at a certain point.

You should also look at:

Temps when supposedly at idle; are they higher than you might expect?

RAM usage, are you using 40 percent of available or 90?

Disk usage; is there constant high disc activity for unexplained reasons? That would explain 30 TB writes in 70 weeks.

You can get a handle on that stuff in Task Manager.

HWInfo is another great tool for temps, CPU usage, watts, fan speeds, etc.

Malware/virus; have you done full scans, preferably with 2 different software packages?

 

[P0tluck94]

I'd try to find out "what's slow".

The 30 TB of writes in 70 weeks is high enough and unusual enough that I'd want to dig into it..........even though it is unlikely to be critical.

What are your primary tasks? I'm trying to figure out what might explain 30 TB writes that quickly.

Constant disk activity can be perceived as slowness overall, even though it might have minimal effect on the life span of an SSD.

"Benchmarks" and "tests" doesn't tell us much without detail.

Your CPU may be working heavily on some background process semi-constantly. That can obviously become noticeable at a certain point.

You should also look at:

Temps when supposedly at idle; are they higher than you might expect?

RAM usage, are you using 40 percent of available or 90?

Disk usage; is there constant high disc activity for unexplained reasons? That would explain 30 TB writes in 70 weeks.

You can get a handle on that stuff in Task Manager.

HWInfo is another great tool for temps, CPU usage, watts, fan speeds, etc.

Malware/virus; have you done full scans, preferably with 2 different software packages?

i Use hwmonitor , at idle the drive is 40 degrees celsius , all my other temps are great and percentages are 0 -3% i honestly just play games and thats on the ssd, i also have my drives to never shut off in power options , is that a bad thing?

 

[geofelt]

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[Satan-IR]

heres what that program shows well pic wouldnt work

487 days 20 hours power on time
943 days remaining
29.62 writes
says perfect no weak or problematic sectors were found but health is 84%

As said above health at some % doesn't necessarily mean drive is failing. It has more writes than a SSD would have in 16 months in a normal PC with average daily home use load.

It might have not been a new drive to begin with.

That same HD Sentinel has a Disk Performance tab. Have it open and look if disk suddenly get a lot of write operation done on it specially when system is idle. Also check the SMART again with CrystalDisk or HD Sentinel in a few days and you'd get if it's getting a lot of writes daily. If not maybe it was no new and the previous owner did some write-intensive work/operation.

In HD Sentinal you can tick the 'Decimal data fields' so it changes to human readable numbers.

Check if there's no defragmentation scheduled on a daily basis or anything. SSDs don't need that like HDDs and content don't really need indexing because of their very fast access time, although indexing does a lot of reading unless Windows keeps indexes are on the same drive (which I guess is the case).

Also you can upload images to imgur.com and post links here. Just click new post drag n' drop image there and post link here.

 

[Lafong]

i Use hwmonitor , at idle the drive is 40 degrees celsius , all my other temps are great and percentages are 0 -3% i honestly just play games and thats on the ssd, i also have my drives to never shut off in power options , is that a bad thing?

No, it's not a bad thing.

40 at idle is higher than most, but your cooling setup and ambient temps are unknown,

Disk activity? Ram usage? Processes? Malware scans? Task Manager?

You mentioned none of that.