Crysis 4870 benchmarks (includes CF):

[John Vuong]

Doesn't look to bad, a single 4870 almost performs as a single 280 GTX. Though I'm more interested in the 4870 X2 though.

If the 4870 X2 is going to take the performance crown this time, NVIDIA better come up with something quick. Using GDDR3 doesn't cut it anymore.

 

[Amiga500]

I'm not sure how the new Ati's are doing with AA, but that used to be a heavy performance hitting feature for them.

4xAA pretty much comes for free on the 4850...



Don't forget, the only reason the RV600/RV670 got hit so hard on AA was a result of the DirectX 10.1 debacle.

(Before some come and say RV600 didn't support 10.1, it apparently supported the first pass shader which is what made the AA difference IIRC)

 

[mihirkula]

*Drools at benchmarks* .... dammmnnn i hope those aren't bogus benchies

 

[foxhound009]

nice.... now I'll just wait untill it comes out and the price will drop

 

[SinisterMessiah]

For some reason I think Nvidia has something up their sleeve for shortly after the 4870 launches. I sincerely doubt they have laid all their marbles out on the table for this battle.

 

[spuddyt]

but what can they do? They will probably go for a die shrink to 55 nm, but then what? i can't imagine it will be able to make up for this huge difference in performance per watt (or cm2 )

 

[compy386]

The funny thing about this is that with $1300 of graphics cards, you can barely play crysis on a 20 inch monitor with settings on very high...

 

[Ycon]

And nobody thinks about grains of salt when reading AMD at the top right corner?

 

[moonhunter]

http://www.hkepc.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=1007750&extra=page%3D2&page=1

Hong Kong already start selling this ATI HD 4870 !!!!!

The thread also has the ATI HD 4870 benchmark.

 

[spaztic7]

Remember the days of the XTX? When will ATi be bringing that back? They could with the 4870 line, it runs well enough for them to do so.

Has anyone seen benchmarks with the hotfix from Dammit for the 48x0 series?

 

[bydesign]

Doesn't look to bad, a single 4870 almost performs as a single 280 GTX. Though I'm more interested in the 4870 X2 though.

If the 4870 X2 is going to take the performance crown this time, NVIDIA better come up with something quick. Using GDDR3 doesn't cut it anymore.

Wow what a conclusion. Let’s assume that the numbers are spot on. The card performs slightly better than 4850 with GDDR3 and lower clock speed. OC the 4850 to match and I bet the performance about the same. Not sure how you came to your conclusion considering that the 4870 is still slower than the GDDR 3 GTX 280. The 4870 only appears to perform about 10% better than the 4850 which is clocked about 20% slower.

This card still fits between the 260 and 280 and the price is good until you throw the 4850 into the mix. The 4850 at $200 is only slightly slower about 10% vs. the expected price of $299 for the 4870. The 4870 x2 at $399 might change the game in August but right now the 4850 is a much better buy.

 

[The_Blood_Raven]

If these are true then I will buy 2 and overclock them so I can reach that $1300 cards performance level.... These do seem about right, this is Crysis after all and Nvidia and it would seem recently ATI are making sure their cards shine in Crysis.

 

[arcypoo]

By then the GTX280 should be cheaper too. I doubt it will stay at its current price for long. But as I've said before, why not rip off the consumer when you have a monopoly in the high end? AMD hasn't released a competitor yet, they've only shown us graphs.

As much of an nVidia fan as I am as well, its kind of sad to keep having to pay these high prices for more or less $200-$300 performance. The only thing holding me back from going ATI is that red PCB ... lol, but as soon as that 4870 X2 comes out I will probably be with ATI.

 

[marvelous211]

By then the GTX280 should be cheaper too. I doubt it will stay at its current price for long. But as I've said before, why not rip off the consumer when you have a monopoly in the high end? AMD hasn't released a competitor yet, they've only shown us graphs.

Nvidia boards cost so much more compared to RV770. They can't really drop the price like that and not lose money.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Dont get it wrong. The 4850 isnt competing with the 4870. When the prices of the G260 come down the 4870 will go lower, as will the 4850. The 4850 will go 170 soon, and no card can compete with that pricing. The 4870 will go 280 too, and again, no card will compete with that pricing. Having the fastest card for 500 dollars is very doable from ATI, I cant say the same for nVidia at this time

 

[marvelous211]

Those benchmarks seem seriously off to me. My 9800GTX (OC) gets higher FPS than every single card shown there (1680x1050), only being beaten by SLI/CF. I know there's no info on the hardware used for the rest of the test builds, but I'm sure my rig can't be that much faster (if at all) than the system they were benching on.

So does my timedemo benchmarks but their testing mythology might be different.

 

[spathotan]

Nvidia says that 9800GTX+ is 22% faster than 4850

 

[marvelous211]

Hmmm... these results are from amd??? and not even official..., so take them so... Nvidia says that 9800GTX+ is 22% faster than 4850, and now ATI says that sigle 4870 as fast as 9800GX2...??? Well there definitely is some bias with both companies announses.
The truth is still out there somewhere, but not in these two "official" benshmarks...

We already have data about 9800gtx+ vs 4850. In performance I say they are about even. 9800gtx+ is better raw performer in most cases and 4850 is better in AA performance. Kind of like 3870 vs 9600gt was but the roles have reversed in performance anyway and cost factor too not to mention 1 teraflop of processing power.

Take this with a grain of salt. Wait for real benches to show up to make conclusion but I don't doubt that 4870 will be very competitive with 260gtx or a bit higher than it's performance imo.

 

[ovaltineplease]

These benchmarks need anti-aliasing. They are not stressing the cards enough. With AA enabled the 4870 could blow the gtx280 out of the water, or it could be a flop! We badly need AA benchmarks

 

[hannibal]

Take this with a grain of salt. Wait for real benches to show up to make conclusion but I don't doubt that 4870 will be very competitive with 260gtx or a bit higher than it's performance imo.

Salt is good ;-)
I really hope that 4870 is so fast as predigted. AMD really needs something that can make them some profit! It allso means that I can change my old sturdy 1800XT to something faster... It's good card, but getting a little bit slow with new games.
I am allways a little bit sceptical with both companies, when they announce that they have invented the "second coming" or something like that. They allways shows their own card at the best light.
All in all what is good is that both companies have now reasonable good cards! It's healthy situation. Many have said that 9800GTX+ is only 8800 gt version 3... so what the 8800 gt has been good consept for customers, why not make tweaked version of it? You don't have to reinvent everything. And now ATI has made really good upadate to 3800 series that can beat their Nvidia rivals. Very impressive!
Now I only have to hope that AMD can make their high metal gate ready and give intel something to be a little bit worried... The situation in CPU side is not so good at all.

 

[vochtige]

where is the time, when there came out a new game, you could run it with highend card with 100fps and everything maxed out.

i miss those times

 

[hannibal]

Wait until DX10 is about 3 to 5 years old and everybody knows how to strech it's limits...
It seems that this time game companies expected faster development in GPU sector. I expect now faster development as both comapanies have reasonable fast middle range cards. If only AMD would not be so much in depts, so that it could put more money to ATI, so that it could take some risks and try to developt it's own super highend GPU's to compete with Nvidia 200 series. Maybe two or four core chip if that is what they want. Now the highend GPU's are too big risk to AMD take because they have not enough money. It would not help much normal customers in short time range, but in long way some things that works well, could be seen in middle range cards... and it would force the Nvidia work harder with their highend parts...

 

[lameness]

where is the time, when there came out a new game, you could run it with highend card with 100fps and everything maxed out.

i miss those times

Yeah those days were good, but i dont think were being ripped off. Back in the day all you had to do was add more bandwidth and maybe a few more mhz and small revision in architecture....and hey presto you can run any game and ultra fast speeds.

Now we demands higher res, AA & AF, and games demand vastly more processing from shaders...lighting etc.

I still have a vodoo summit or other that cost a considerable amount when i got it...its about the size of a network card.
Todays cards are huge in comparison...not saying its good, but the manufacturing costs alone must be much higher.

 

[Guest]

still disappointed that no card setup can play crysis very high at 1920x1200...

o well guess i'll wait for the next gen

 

[spaztic7]

I dono... I play Crysis at 1920x1200 with all settings to very high other than motion blur (that is off) and AA and it runs like a dream for me.

Just a BFG 8800 GTX OC2, Q6600 stock speed, 8GB of RAM DDR2 800 and an X-fi fatality for **** and giggles.

I never did run the fps test... I should.