Crysis and Windows 7 Ultimate

[letstrynl]

Hi,

I recently installed Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate (with al recent updates).
And I installed Crysis (up to 1.2 patch).

And now I only have 20 fps, instead of the 50+ on XP 32 bit.

My rig:
Asus P6T Deluxe V2
6 GB Crucial
Asus 285 GTX

I'm kinda disappointed (again) in EA, no patches for Windows 7 etc.
And I see a lot of problems with the Crysis <-> Windows 7 combi.

Any ideas (besides crippling the game to DX9)?

 

[vvhocare5]

You shouldnt have to run in DX9 mode - I run Win7 64bit and Crysis is fine.

Are you running the 64bit version of Crysis now? Are the drivers 64bit?
Is everything recognized in device manager?
Did you install the driver package from NVidia?

Did you move anything during the OS install?

Im thinking this is something really obvious....

 

[EXT64]

Yep, be sure to use the .exe in the bin64 folder, not 32. Crysis runs fine on my computer. Can you try out any other games/benchmarks (just to confirm everything else is ok).

 

[letstrynl]

Hi,

My desktop shortcut properties say it's running the crysis.exe in the bin64 folder, so no problem there.
Game is is installed in D:\Games (x86)\Crytek\Crysis, so not on C: partition.

For the 285 I'm running the nv19107_win7vista64 driver, as provided by Asus.
That would be version 191.07.

Same problems on 195.62 64-bit provided by the nvidia website.

I'm puzzled. Select DX9 and Crysis runs fine, select DX10 and fps is back to 20.

Other game I play is Battlefield 2, runs like a charm (have to select compatability mode XP SP 3).

I also downloaded Dirt 2 demo, runs like a charm (seems 32 bit, however).

Only thing that's strange is that the Physx seems to be 32-bit, but I'm not sure if Crysis is using it.

Rest of the drivers are all up to date, bios 7.04, so no problem there.
No problems with hardware, memory and disk are ok.

I use this machine (i920) at stock settings, more then enough to play any current game.

 

[lothdk]

At what resolution and settings do you run Crysis, when you go from DX9 to DX10 do you up the settings to take advantage of DX10 as well?

 

[letstrynl]

lothdk:
everything at max, as that is what my rig should be able to pull off.

EXT64:
I ran the 1-time only 3dmark vantage benchmark, 14663 3DMarks
.
CPU Score 44182

Graphics Score 11992

Pretty decent for a rig at stock settings, isnt it?

As a sidenote, my Explorer (desktop) keeps crashing once-in-a-while, quite annoying.
It's strange, the system is really still pretty clean, I installed it last week.

Why do I always have that 70% feeling with Microsoft products, LOL?

I dont use Windows for anything else then gaming.
My primary system is Ubuntu.

On XP I had to update DX9 once in a while, isn't that necessary anymore with Windows 7?

 

[lothdk]

lothdk:
everything at max, as that is what my rig should be able to pull off.

Well, if that means you go from High setting using DX9 to Very High setting using DX10 that could explain the difference, do you have antialiasing enabled?

Take a look at this benchmark of Crysis with your card

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-285,2139-4.html

On XP I had to update DX9 once in a while, isn't that necessary anymore with Windows 7?

Yes, you should still update to newest DX9

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...FamilyID=04ac064b-00d1-474e-b7b1-442d8712d553

 

[JeanLuc]

The frame rates your getting are correct for the hardware you have.

 

[letstrynl]

Update
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I just started Crysis in DX10 mode.
I took the same scene, exact same position, same point of view.

Stock settings, so 2.6 GHz x 4 processors, no HT.

Antialiasing off, no vsync.

At 1920x1200 very high: 15.8 fps
At 1920x1200 high: 17.7 fps

Lowered the resolution.

At 1400x900 very high: 15 fps
At 1400x900 high: 17.7 fps

BUMP, it can't be that bad.

 

[letstrynl]

... and 1200x720 at low settings: 30 fps

measured by asus gamerosd

 

[JofaMang]

It's not win7. I get much better FPS on my w7u64 with crysis at 1920x1080 and the same settings, and my hardware doesn't compare. Your gaming rig is being crippled somewhere. Time to start running the diagnostics like Memtest etc and try to eliminate possible hardware issues.

 

[letstrynl]

I'll try resetting my BIOS.
Not much else to do anymore, I'm done with this.
DX9 mode crashes to desktop now, after loading a scene.

My hardware is all ok (memtest/smart settings of harddisk etc.).

I'll let you guys know if it helped.

 

[punisher 281]

Crysis runs fine on 7 for my system. Did you upgrade to 7 or did you do a clean install?

 

[EXT64]

Crysis doesn't use PhysX, it uses a custom made physics engine.

 

[letstrynl]

Ok, DX9 is working again.

Nvidia profile setting: "Let he application decide"

Windows 7 compatability mode: "Vista SP2"

I created new profiles for each of the DX9 and DX10 settings.

Results:
DX9 low: 135 fps
DX9 high: 63 fps

DX10 low: 26 fps
DX10 high: 15 fps

I still feel something is not as it should be.

As a sidenote (or maybe very important), when I start in DX10 mode, in the intro, the colors are off and I get a full ASCII chart. Game itself is ok.

Could it be ASUS GameOSD that is trashing things up?

 

[letstrynl]

... at 1920x1200

Also to the guys who are administering this forum: I can't edit/save my own messages.

 

[bystander]

I agree with you, that those FPS's aren't correct for your system. As was asked before. Did you do a clean install of Win 7, or did you do an upgrade?

 

[letstrynl]

It was a fresh install with Windows 7 Ultimate Update DVD.

 

[letstrynl]

The mentioned results are with AA disabled.

 

[letstrynl]

The 285GTX IS a DX10 card, isn't it?
It was advertised as such.

 

[bystander]

As a reference. I'm also on a i7 920 with a P6T motherboard and 5870s in CF. With just one 5870 on it's own, I was seeing 40-60 FPS at High settings and x4 AA (I felt Very high was not playable at that time). With two 5870's in CF, I can run Very High (Ultra with a mod) and x4 AA with 40-60 FPS.

The 285 should perform close, but a tad lower than my system with a single 5870.

Yes, the 285 is a DX 10 card.

 

[letstrynl]

bystander: "I was seeing 40-60 FPS at High settings"

Are you sure this was in DX10 mode?

 

[letstrynl]

Issue is resolved.

It was ASUS GamerOSD.
I removed it, and DX10 performance is now 50-60 fps at High with AA=off.
Measured by setting r_DisplayInfo=1 at the Crysis console.

I guess my rig could do a bit better than some of you were thinking ;-)

Thanks guys.

 

[OvrClkr]

Issue is resolved.

It was ASUS GamerOSD.
I removed it, and DX10 performance is now 50-60 fps at High with AA=off.
Measured by setting r_DisplayInfo=1 at the Crysis console.

I guess my rig could do a bit better than some of you were thinking ;-)

Thanks guys.

Have you tried upping the CPU clock? You will get more frames at 3.2Ghz and above

 

[letstrynl]

OvrClkr: No, I haven't.

Most of the time this is my working machine, so power saving is ok then.
It is quite a good one at that by the wway, 150 W/h normally, even better then my old AMD 3800 ;-)

> 2.6 GHz would be nice, but I still have the stock Intel CPU cooler installed.
As I have the D0 stepping, overclocking should be relatively safe though.
I saw some awesome overclocks with this processor.

So, for now no overclocking, maybe when I get a new CPU cooler.

BTW. Crysis DX10 Extra high runs at 30-35 fps on this machine.