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Rasmus Bøg Hansen wrote:

>>>>>>>>You probably don't. Yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Oh.
>>>>>>>*keeps on pondering on your knowledge of me*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You're practically a legend. I think I saw you in Se og Hør the other day.
>>>>>
>>>>>I doubt that, though I might be mentioned in Ekstrabladet in the near
>>>>>future...
>>>>>Then again, I don't read Se og Hør so I wouldn't really know for
>>>>>sure.
>>>>
>>>>Oh, you were all over that thing. Quite a scandal, too.
>>>
>>>A pity I did not see it then. ah heck!
>>
>>I still can't believe you broke up with Joachim.
>
> Oh, he was such a snob! Also, he wouldn't let me go in sandals with
> socks.

*snap*
Ooh no he di'n't!
*snap*
 
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Sean <sgegg@hotspammeallyouwantpop.com> hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

> Rasmus Bøg Hansen wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>You probably don't. Yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Oh.
>>>>>>>>*keeps on pondering on your knowledge of me*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You're practically a legend. I think I saw you in Se og Hør the other day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I doubt that, though I might be mentioned in Ekstrabladet in the near
>>>>>>future...
>>>>>>Then again, I don't read Se og Hør so I wouldn't really know for
>>>>>>sure.
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh, you were all over that thing. Quite a scandal, too.
>>>>
>>>>A pity I did not see it then. ah heck!
>>>
>>>I still can't believe you broke up with Joachim.
>> Oh, he was such a snob! Also, he wouldn't let me go in sandals with
>> socks.
>
> *snap*
> Ooh no he di'n't!
> *snap*

You mean, that part was in Se & Hør too???

I should follow such stories...

/Rasmus

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-- [ Rasmus "Møffe" Bøg Hansen ] ---------------------------------------
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Rasmus Bøg Hansen wrote:

>>>>>>>>>Oh.
>>>>>>>>>*keeps on pondering on your knowledge of me*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You're practically a legend. I think I saw you in Se og Hør the other day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I doubt that, though I might be mentioned in Ekstrabladet in the near
>>>>>>>future...
>>>>>>>Then again, I don't read Se og Hør so I wouldn't really know for
>>>>>>>sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Oh, you were all over that thing. Quite a scandal, too.
>>>>>
>>>>>A pity I did not see it then. ah heck!
>>>>
>>>>I still can't believe you broke up with Joachim.
>>>
>>>Oh, he was such a snob! Also, he wouldn't let me go in sandals with
>>>socks.
>>
>> *snap*
>>Ooh no he di'n't!
>> *snap*
>
> You mean, that part was in Se & Hør too???
>
> I should follow such stories...

Se & Hør is my bible.
 
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Sean <sgegg@hotspammeallyouwantpop.com> hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

> Rasmus Bøg Hansen wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>>Oh.
>>>>>>>>>>*keeps on pondering on your knowledge of me*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You're practically a legend. I think I saw you in Se og Hør the other day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I doubt that, though I might be mentioned in Ekstrabladet in the near
>>>>>>>>future...
>>>>>>>>Then again, I don't read Se og Hør so I wouldn't really know for
>>>>>>>>sure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Oh, you were all over that thing. Quite a scandal, too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A pity I did not see it then. ah heck!
>>>>>
>>>>>I still can't believe you broke up with Joachim.
>>>>
>>>>Oh, he was such a snob! Also, he wouldn't let me go in sandals with
>>>>socks.
>>>
>>> *snap*
>>>Ooh no he di'n't!
>>> *snap*
>> You mean, that part was in Se & Hør too???
>> I should follow such stories...
>
> Se & Hør is my bible.

Holy monkeys! That thing?

*is shocked*

/Rasmus

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-- [ Rasmus "Møffe" Bøg Hansen ] ---------------------------------------
God, root, what is difference?
God is more forgiving.
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Rasmus Bøg Hansen wrote:

>>>>>>>>>I doubt that, though I might be mentioned in Ekstrabladet in the near
>>>>>>>>>future...
>>>>>>>>>Then again, I don't read Se og Hør so I wouldn't really know for
>>>>>>>>>sure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Oh, you were all over that thing. Quite a scandal, too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>A pity I did not see it then. ah heck!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I still can't believe you broke up with Joachim.
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh, he was such a snob! Also, he wouldn't let me go in sandals with
>>>>>socks.
>>>>
>>>> *snap*
>>>>Ooh no he di'n't!
>>>>*snap*
>>>
>>>You mean, that part was in Se & Hør too???
>>>I should follow such stories...
>>
>>Se & Hør is my bible.
>
> Holy monkeys! That thing?
>
> *is shocked*

What's that, Se & Hør? You want me to kill the nonbeliever? It'd be my
pleasure, Se & Hør! Anything for you! *shuffles off to fetch a chainsaw*
 
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Sean <sgegg@hotspammeallyouwantpop.com> hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

> Rasmus Bøg Hansen wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>>I doubt that, though I might be mentioned in Ekstrabladet in the near
>>>>>>>>>>future...
>>>>>>>>>>Then again, I don't read Se og Hør so I wouldn't really know for
>>>>>>>>>>sure.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Oh, you were all over that thing. Quite a scandal, too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>A pity I did not see it then. ah heck!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I still can't believe you broke up with Joachim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Oh, he was such a snob! Also, he wouldn't let me go in sandals with
>>>>>>socks.
>>>>>
>>>>> *snap*
>>>>>Ooh no he di'n't!
>>>>>*snap*
>>>>
>>>>You mean, that part was in Se & Hør too???
>>>>I should follow such stories...
>>>
>>>Se & Hør is my bible.
>> Holy monkeys! That thing?
>> *is shocked*
>
> What's that, Se & Hør? You want me to kill the nonbeliever? It'd be my
> pleasure, Se & Hør! Anything for you! *shuffles off to fetch a chainsaw*

*me goes and buy Se & Hør including all available back issues*

Sheesh, I thought I'd never have to do that...

/Rasmus

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-- [ Rasmus "Møffe" Bøg Hansen ] ---------------------------------------
Yeah and we all know that Tolkien barely sold a copy before the film
came out.
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Rasmus Bøg Hansen wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>Oh, you were all over that thing. Quite a scandal, too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>A pity I did not see it then. ah heck!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I still can't believe you broke up with Joachim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Oh, he was such a snob! Also, he wouldn't let me go in sandals with
>>>>>>>socks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *snap*
>>>>>>Ooh no he di'n't!
>>>>>>*snap*
>>>>>
>>>>>You mean, that part was in Se & Hør too???
>>>>>I should follow such stories...
>>>>
>>>>Se & Hør is my bible.
>>>
>>>Holy monkeys! That thing?
>>>*is shocked*
>>
>>What's that, Se & Hør? You want me to kill the nonbeliever? It'd be my
>>pleasure, Se & Hør! Anything for you! *shuffles off to fetch a chainsaw*
>
> *me goes and buy Se & Hør including all available back issues*
>
> Sheesh, I thought I'd never have to do that...

You are one of us now! Kill the nonbelievers! Here's your chainsaw.
 
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Sean <sgegg@hotspammeallyouwantpop.com> hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

> Rasmus Bøg Hansen wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>>>Oh, you were all over that thing. Quite a scandal, too.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>A pity I did not see it then. ah heck!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I still can't believe you broke up with Joachim.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Oh, he was such a snob! Also, he wouldn't let me go in sandals with
>>>>>>>>socks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *snap*
>>>>>>>Ooh no he di'n't!
>>>>>>>*snap*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You mean, that part was in Se & Hør too???
>>>>>>I should follow such stories...
>>>>>
>>>>>Se & Hør is my bible.
>>>>
>>>>Holy monkeys! That thing?
>>>>*is shocked*
>>>
>>> What's that, Se & Hør? You want me to kill the nonbeliever? It'd be
>>> my pleasure, Se & Hør! Anything for you! *shuffles off to fetch a
>>> chainsaw*
>> *me goes and buy Se & Hør including all available back issues*
>> Sheesh, I thought I'd never have to do that...
>
> You are one of us now! Kill the nonbelievers! Here's your chainsaw.

*goes and buys a lot of gasoline fit for chainsaws*

/Rasmus

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If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
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Rasmus Bøg Hansen is not a monkey:

|I know that Møffe lives there..."

I wouldn't call yourself that if you ever happen to visit a tiny, shitty
little country known as the Netherlands...

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ervaqre

It won't be just a memory.

www.aglami.net
ervaqre(at)aglami(dot)net

"Alas, my error was trusting Aglami
to do anything in the first place."
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Rasmus Bøg Hansen is not a monkey:

|Yes.
|
|*bakes a golden cake*
|
|*wonders if orders actually came from Reinder*

No, Kasper is actually vice-dictator in here. And also, the longer you
have been here, the more you can order people around! Isn't that great?

|*returns to drinking, rather confused*

Cheers!

--
ervaqre

It won't be just a memory.

www.aglami.net
ervaqre(at)aglami(dot)net

"Alas, my error was trusting Aglami
to do anything in the first place."
- Rob, in alt.roundtable
 
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Rasmus Bøg Hansen is not a monkey:

|Ah, but that seems natural to do. After all you are the grog-swilling
|pirates, I want to be - how could I not respect your authorita - ehm,
|authoritY!
|
|*leaves to play beertimate*
|
|Hard to keep up on aglami with all this drinking...

Ah! So, well, I have been white with idle towers for a while. But patience
is a welcome milestone with syrup. Too much elephants clogged these waters
in the old days when pink was plastered over secret cave entrances. Yes,
salmon disk with snake rivers seldom matters, do you not fully and
flexibly agree? This is your fifth, final and fishiest trial:

5. Beng snam pang! Find out who was the first Dane ever to post to Aglami!

--
ervaqre

It won't be just a memory.

www.aglami.net
ervaqre(at)aglami(dot)net

"Alas, my error was trusting Aglami
to do anything in the first place."
- Rob, in alt.roundtable
 
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Sean is not a monkey:

|> Sheesh, I thought I'd never have to do that...
|
|You are one of us now! Kill the nonbelievers! Here's your chainsaw.

I think the Flak Cannon is a much better weapon.

--
ervaqre

It won't be just a memory.

www.aglami.net
ervaqre(at)aglami(dot)net

"Alas, my error was trusting Aglami
to do anything in the first place."
- Rob, in alt.roundtable
 
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ervaqre <me@privacy.net> hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

> Rasmus Bøg Hansen is not a monkey:
>
> |Yes.
> |
> |*bakes a golden cake*
> |
> |*wonders if orders actually came from Reinder*
>
> No, Kasper is actually vice-dictator in here. And also, the longer you
> have been here, the more you can order people around! Isn't that great?

Somehow I had a feeling that it might be so.

I still haven't figured out all the rankings; I guess I will in
time...

/Rasmus

--
-- [ Rasmus "Møffe" Bøg Hansen ] ---------------------------------------
When you have multiple CPUs with one interrupt controller, you don't
have much choice. You either use spin-locks or you Blue-Screen.
Since Linux doesn't have a "Blue-screen of death", it needs spin-
locks.
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ervaqre <me@privacy.net> hit the keyboard.
Afterwards the following was on the screen:

> Sean is not a monkey:
>
> |> Sheesh, I thought I'd never have to do that...
> |
> |You are one of us now! Kill the nonbelievers! Here's your chainsaw.
>
> I think the Flak Cannon is a much better weapon.

I remember making a level (including custom graphics etc.) in high
school. It implemented the schhool and you had to shoot the
teachers. One day one of the others came into the classroom:

"Hey, I made a new weapon for NykDOOM"
"What could you possibly do better than all our custom weapons?"
"A car!"

Then again, it is of course a short range weapon. Mostly I liked the
chicken (rubber chicken, unfortunately without a pulley in the
middle). You had to slash it at your own head - and monsters died at
range.

It made no sense but was an awesome weapon.

/Rasmus

--
-- [ Rasmus "Møffe" Bøg Hansen ] ---------------------------------------
Quick! Give me the number for 911!
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On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 00:58:55 +0200, spam05@zz9.dk (Rasmus Bøg Hansen)
wrote:

>> No, Kasper is actually vice-dictator in here. And also, the longer you
>> have been here, the more you can order people around! Isn't that great?
>
>Somehow I had a feeling that it might be so.
>
>I still haven't figured out all the rankings; I guess I will in
>time...

Don't we have a list of that somewhere? Reinder?

--
Kasper
 
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Rasmus Bøg Hansen is not a monkey:

|> |You are one of us now! Kill the nonbelievers! Here's your chainsaw.
|>
|> I think the Flak Cannon is a much better weapon.
|
|I remember making a level (including custom graphics etc.) in high
|school. It implemented the schhool and you had to shoot the
|teachers. One day one of the others came into the classroom:
|
|"Hey, I made a new weapon for NykDOOM"
|"What could you possibly do better than all our custom weapons?"
|"A car!"
|
|Then again, it is of course a short range weapon. Mostly I liked the
|chicken (rubber chicken, unfortunately without a pulley in the
|middle). You had to slash it at your own head - and monsters died at
|range.
|
|It made no sense but was an awesome weapon.

Hmmm...a chicken, eh? Actually, to be honest, I often dislike heavily
customised games, at least in case of a public server, because you'll have
to download so much junk each time you play a new level.

*slaps rasmus with a rubber chicken with a pulley in the middle*

--
ervaqre

It won't be just a memory.

www.aglami.net
ervaqre(at)aglami(dot)net

"Alas, my error was trusting Aglami
to do anything in the first place."
- Rob, in alt.roundtable
 
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Kasper is not a monkey:

|>I still haven't figured out all the rankings; I guess I will in
|>time...
|
|Don't we have a list of that somewhere? Reinder?

Tadaa! However, many of these do not post in Aglami anymore. Also, the
list is incomplete.

| Februari 1998, Aglami was created along with other LucasArts
| newsgroups
|
|
| (27 November 1998) Mr. Tolver posts the first message ever
|
| Huz (10 December 1998)
|
| Simon Reid (13 December 1998)
|
| Michael Smith (23 February 1999)
|
| Reinder (15 May 1999) the most important of all!
|
| BishopX (15 June 1999)
|
| The Axe (as Petter Akselsen) (17 June 1999)
|
| Esben (as Parasite) (27 June 1999)
|
| Geek (10 July 1999)
|
| Skyfox (10 July 1999)
|
| Mr. XL (13 July 1999)
|
| Larry C (15 July 1999)
|
| Kasper (16 July 1999)
|
| Sean (18 July 1999)
|
| SnornL (21 July 1999)
|
| TomH/Thunderburst (16 August 1999)
|
| Kate Winterton (31 August 1999)
|
| Paul Pergamenshchik (31 August 1999)
|
| Jungo (11 October 1999)
|
| Joey The Fish (23 October 1999)
|
| The Log (6 November 1999) this must be a mistake
|
| Data (12 November 1999)
|
| Sir Andy (14-29 November 1999) the sir spread his first post over
| several days
| The BEAST (2 January 2000)
|
| Pixel "#~ (5 January 2000)
|
| Oliver Reiff (8 January 2000)
|
| Pascal (10 January 2000)
|
| Dirk Gently (12 January 2000)
|
| Tom Keane (27 January 2000)
|
| John F. Ievins (5 February 2000)
|
| Kylie (8 February 2000)
|
| Tracicle (3 March 2000)
|
| Thomas Langård (12 March 2000)
|
| Jon Buchan (18 April 2000)
|
| Ned Flanders (25 April 2000)
|
| Figment (26 April 2000)
|
| Toki (2 May 2000)
|
| Mike Ball/Vigilante (29 May 2000)
|
| Bev Bouffont (8 June 2000)
|
| Luke (13 July 2000)
|
| Krista (29 September 2000)
|
| Kimmer (26 September 2000)
|
| Atob (27 October 2000)
|
| Suzi (1 November 2000)
|
| Blondestranger (2 November 2000) on my birthday
|
| Tamf Moo (27 December 2000)
|
| Daffy (2 January 2001)
|
| David Morris (19 February 2001)
|
| The Arctic Moose (22 February 2001)
|
| Nmenry (25 April 2001)
|
| Keiran (9 May 2001)
|
| Chuckle (16 May 2001)
|
| Jostein Hakestad (20 May 2001)
|
| Alex Watson (27 May 2001)
|
| Kirk (8 July 2001)
|
| Rasher (31 July 2001)
|
| Empee (5 August 2001)
|
| Matt (21 August 2001)
|
| Mistress Stormy SheWolf (30 August 2001)
|
| The Executor (17 October 2001)
|
| Princess Madelyn (30 October 2001)
|
| Jon Reeves (20 November 2001)
|
| IJke (3 March 2002)


--
ervaqre

It won't be just a memory.

www.aglami.net
ervaqre(at)aglami(dot)net

"Alas, my error was trusting Aglami
to do anything in the first place."
- Rob, in alt.roundtable
 
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ervaqre wrote:
> Kasper is not a monkey:
>
> |>I still haven't figured out all the rankings; I guess I will in
> |>time...
> |
> |Don't we have a list of that somewhere? Reinder?
>
> Tadaa! However, many of these do not post in Aglami anymore. Also, the
> list is incomplete.
>
> | Februari 1998, Aglami was created along with other LucasArts
> | newsgroups
....
> | Reinder (15 May 1999) the most important of all!
....
> | Kasper (16 July 1999)
> |
> | Sean (18 July 1999)

By two days, you bastard.
 
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Earlier ervaqre muttered:

>| Reinder (15 May 1999) the most important of all!

I don't remember adding that last bit, when I made that list...


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Sean is not a monkey:

|> | Februari 1998, Aglami was created along with other LucasArts
|> | newsgroups
|...
|> | Reinder (15 May 1999) the most important of all!
|...
|> | Kasper (16 July 1999)
|> |
|> | Sean (18 July 1999)
|
|By two days, you bastard.

Be silent, you newbie! We are the boss of you!

--
ervaqre

It won't be just a memory.

www.aglami.net
ervaqre(at)aglami(dot)net

"Alas, my error was trusting Aglami
to do anything in the first place."
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Pixel "#~ is not a monkey:

|Earlier ervaqre muttered:
|
|>| Reinder (15 May 1999) the most important of all!
|
|I don't remember adding that last bit, when I made that list...

I actually modified the list a bit for the new RRRRR, or, more accurately,
the RRRRR that was almost completed but never released.

--
ervaqre

It won't be just a memory.

www.aglami.net
ervaqre(at)aglami(dot)net

"Alas, my error was trusting Aglami
to do anything in the first place."
- Rob, in alt.roundtable
 
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Earlier ervaqre muttered:

>|>| Reinder (15 May 1999) the most important of all!
>|
>|I don't remember adding that last bit, when I made that list...
>
>I actually modified the list a bit for the new RRRRR, or, more accurately,
>the RRRRR that was almost completed but never released.

There was a nearly finished RRRRR? Why did you not finish it!?!?


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pixel at aglami dot net
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Pixel "#~ is not a monkey:

|>|I don't remember adding that last bit, when I made that list...
|>
|>I actually modified the list a bit for the new RRRRR, or, more accurately,
|>the RRRRR that was almost completed but never released.
|
|There was a nearly finished RRRRR? Why did you not finish it!?!?

Well, it was still missing a lot of information!

--
ervaqre

It won't be just a memory.

www.aglami.net
ervaqre(at)aglami(dot)net

"Alas, my error was trusting Aglami
to do anything in the first place."
- Rob, in alt.roundtable
 
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Earlier ervaqre muttered:

>|>|I don't remember adding that last bit, when I made that list...
>|>
>|>I actually modified the list a bit for the new RRRRR, or, more accurately,
>|>the RRRRR that was almost completed but never released.
>|
>|There was a nearly finished RRRRR? Why did you not finish it!?!?
>
>Well, it was still missing a lot of information!

Oh... :/


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pixel at aglami dot net
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Pixel "#~ is not a monkey:

|>|There was a nearly finished RRRRR? Why did you not finish it!?!?
|>
|>Well, it was still missing a lot of information!
|
|Oh... :/

And I forgot the salt! And the pepper!

--
ervaqre

It won't be just a memory.

www.aglami.net
ervaqre(at)aglami(dot)net

"Alas, my error was trusting Aglami
to do anything in the first place."
- Rob, in alt.roundtable