CyberPower PC Build Help

[DarkLies]

Hello, I'm looking at building/purchasing a Gaming PC through CyberPower.
I know many of you are going to say, "why not build it yourself?"
I can name you a whole bunch of reasons why I feel I'm not ready yet. So for now I'm going to be purchasing one. (Please don't tell me to make one myself, just looking for help with components.)

Anyway I was wondering if anyone can help me with the components.How does this look to you guys? Is there something I'm missing and should get? Is there something I should take out? Also are any of the parts going too overboard and maybe I should get a cheaper part?
Thank you so much!

Operating System: Windows 10 Home (64-bit Edition)
Gaming Chassis: RAIDMAX Viper II Mid-Tower ATX gaming case w/USB 3.0, Side Panel Window (White Color)
Lighting: RGB Multi-Color 16 color LED 1x interior light strip w/ Remote Controller
Extra Case Fans: 3X 120mm Color Case Cooling Fans for your selected case (Red Color)
Noise Reduction Technology: Sound Absorbing Foam on Side, Top And Bottom panels, and more(1)
CPU: Intel® Core™ Processor i7-7700K 4.20GHZ 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1151 (Kaby Lake)
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: Pro OC (Performance Overclock 10% or more)
CPU / Processor Cooling Fan: CyberPowerPC Coolit LCS ECO-III 120mm LCS System w/ Copper Cold Plate (Dual (Push-Pull) Standard 120MM Fans)
Motherboard: MSI Z270-A Pro ATX w/ USB 3.1, 2 PCIe x16, 4 PCIe x1, 6 SATA3, 1 M.2 SATA/PCIe [Intel Optane Ready]
RAM / System Memory: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/3000MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Vengeance)
Video Card: GeForce® GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5X (Pascal)[VR Ready] (Single Card)
Power Supply: 800 Watts - Thortech Thunderbolt Series 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
M.2 SSD: None
Hard Drive: 2TB (2TBx1) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
Secondary Hard Drive: 250GB Samsung 850 EVO Series SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 540MB/s Read & 520MB/s Write (Single Drive)
Hard Drive Cooling Fan: Vigor iSURF II Hard Disk Drive Cooling System (1 x System)
Optical Drive: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
Internal Wireless Network Card:ASUS PCE-AC55BT 802.11ac Wireless-AC1200 Bluetooth 4.0 w/ Dual Antenna PCI-E Adapter
Sound:HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
LCD Monitor: 28" ASUS PB287Q 3840 x 2160, 1ms GTG, 60Hz, HDMI/MHL, DisplayPort. True 4K Ultra High Definition Gaming Monitor (Single Monitor)
Cables:15FT HDMI to HDMI Male Gold Plated Black Cable (1 piece)
Internal Network Card: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Fan Controller/Temperature Display: None
USB Hub & Port: Internal USB 3.0 4-Port Hub
Professional Wiring: Professional Wiring for All WIRING Inside The System Chassis - Minimize Cable Exposure, Maximize Airflow in Your System

 

[USAFRet]

The majority of people here will suggest building it yourself.
The vast majority will suggest avoiding CyberPowerPC at all costs.

What is the total price on this which you have selected?

Useless parts:
-120mm liquid cooler
-Hard drive cooling fan
-Factory overclocking
-Professional wiring (if this is extra cost, that only means the 19 year old with the lowest level of hangover did it)

Mediocre parts:
RAIDMAX case

Probably dangerous parts:
-Thortech PSU

 

[DarkLies]

Thanks for the reply!
Should I use just use a fan for the cpu cooler?
Also is 800 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Certified Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready PSU more safe?

 

[USAFRet]

Thanks for the reply!
Should I use just use a fan for the cpu cooler?
Also is 800 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Certified Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready PSU more safe?

"a fan"...well..you have to choose a good one.
But the 120mm liquid coolers are generally worse than the good air coolers, but cost much more.

And this PSU is almost certainly worse than the unknown one you had listed earlier.

Again...what is your budget for this? How much is CyberPowerPC charging for this system?
(building a PC isn't hard. Any semi-intelligent 12 year old can do it)

 

[ARICH5]

hard drive cooling fan, venom boost?...lol
ya avoid cyberpower.

 

[DarkLies]

Thanks for the reply!
Should I use just use a fan for the cpu cooler?
Also is 800 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Certified Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready PSU more safe?

"a fan"...well..you have to choose a good one.
But the 120mm liquid coolers are generally worse than the good air coolers, but cost much more.

And this PSU is almost certainly worse than the unknown one you had listed earlier.

Again...what is your budget for this? How much is CyberPowerPC charging for this system?
(building a PC isn't hard. Any semi-intelligent 12 year old can do it)

I don't really have a budget, money is not an issue for me. The only thing I'm worried about was getting unnecessary parts.
So $2800 is what they're charging. Like I said money is not an issue. I don't mind giving them my money.

But anyway, what PSU do you recommend?
Also is Cooler Master Hyper 212 LED CPU Cooler w/ PWM fan - Efficient Cooling Performance good enough?

 

[USAFRet]

$2800...aarrrggggg!
That is badly overpriced for that performance, even if you take off the $370 monitor.

The problems with CyberPowerPC are many.
Overpriced for actual performance
Too many fluffy extras
Crap construction
Poor after sale support.

I'm about to retire for the evening, but I'll invite some other late night denizens to have a look here.

 

[DarkLies]

$2800...aarrrggggg!
That is badly overpriced for that performance, even if you take off the $370 monitor.

I'm about to retire for the evening, but I'll invite some other late night denizens to have a look here.

lol thanks.

 

[CTurbo]

USAFret is 100% correct!!!! Avoid at all costs!

 

[Wolfshadw]

Just as a head up, here's your build if you were to purchase the parts and build it yourself. I used identical parts where I could and similar, better parts where I couldn't or should.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.64 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z270-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($114.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($114.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($96.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB TURBO Video Card ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Raidmax Viper II ATX Mid Tower Case ($46.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($56.89 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer ($16.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.58 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-AC55BT PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($31.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Asus PB287Q 28.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor ($349.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1859.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-07 07:39 EDT-0400

I realize money is not an issue for you, but CyberPowerPC is charging you almost $1000 for fluff you don't need and and maybe an hour in labor.

-Wolf sends

 

[Onus]

I can understand about not being comfortable building a PC, however, as Wolfshadw indicates, you can do so much better than CyberPower PC.
FWIW, despite aging eyes and very poor LH coordination (think neuro-deficit, not just being extremely right-handed), I am able to build PCs, and in fact have also been reviewing motherboards, which means I handle and connect a lot of them. Only a few basic tools are required (2x Philips screwdriver (#1 & #2), maybe a pair of tweezers or needlenose pliers). There are online guides for doing it, and you've already found a forum of helpful people.
If you just don't want to do it, that's still fine, but you'd be better off paying someone (e.g. at a local computer shop) a whopping $500 ($100-$150 is more reasonable) to build it using parts you provide, than to get a system from CyberPower PC.

 

[4745454b]

I was going to point that out Onus. Using the list of parts provided, you are still saving nearly $1k buying the parts yourself. You have to know SOMEONE who is willing to put it together for you for $100+. Even if you spent $200 on someone to build it for you, you still saved $800.

I get that some people don't want to even attempt building the PC themselves. I and others know it's ridiculously easy, but even I know people I wouldn't trust with a screwdriver. I agree that I wouldn't get a drive cooler, or pay someone to OC the system. (10%? Really? That's it?) Without knowing prices it's hard to say what is a good buy or not. I would not pay for;

RGB lighting
Extra case fans. (Can be bought online, super cheap and easy to install yourself. Only buy if they are ~$5 each.)
Noise reduction.
10% Overclock.
HDD cooling fan.
Monitor
HDMI cables, or any cables really.
"professional wiring". (Shouldn't this be standard?)

If you are paying extra for any of this, just remove it. You can buy your one monitor on newegg and set it up yourself. Which you'd have to do anyways even if you buy it from them. But there are more options on newegg. Same with the cables. And I'd bet it would be much cheaper. The other things are just silly to buy.

Things I'd change include the CPU cooler, PSU, 850 (?) EVO SSD. You don't need an 800W PSU. Large wattage doesn't mean it's a quality unit. Depending on the price the CPU cooler is either ok or junk. And the 850evo is an older part that's been replaced. Depending on what they are charging it too is either ok or a ripoff. You can also drop the optical drive and wireless card. Like case fans those are easy to install. And cheaper if you buy from someone else.

 

[USAFRet]

DarkLies:
Now that we've outlined the issues and alternatives, and probably scared you a little bit...your thoughts?

 

[DarkLies]

DarkLies:
Now that we've outlined the issues and alternatives, and probably scared you a little bit...your thoughts?

Well, I have read everyone's comments thoroughly. I hear people all the time say building computers is easy. I'm just a very nervous person. What happens if you accidentally break something? Does warranty cover that still? Even if I don't decide to build it myself, I'm going to look into local PC Shops. Like everyone is saying, spending 100-200 dollars for someone to build it is still cheaper then paying cyberpower $2800.

 

[4745454b]

Many of us have built many systems. So for us we can probably do it blindfolded. My youngest brother knows how to build them and still managed to ruin his first build by running it without a heatsink on the CPU. He knew he shouldn't but did it anyways. This was back in the dark days for AMD where they had no thermal protection on their CPUs. If you watch videos and are careful you'll have no problems. But if you don't trust yourself I see nothing wrong with having a trusted friend or company do it for you. Just ask around and find someone who will charge you less then the $1k Cyberpower is charging.

 

[USAFRet]

If you were local to me, I'd have you over for a Saturday afternoon to build it.
You supply the beer, and I'll teach you.

Building it yourself gives a far greater understanding of how things work. So that when/if there is a problem...you'll have a much better idea of where and how to fix it.
Rather than the thing being just a black box with wires sticking out of it.

But yes...a local PC shop (NOT BestBuy!!!) would be miles cheaper than CyberPower.

 

[CTurbo]

There are some pretty good instructional videos out that you could watch and get a feel of what you would be getting into. I think you'll find it to be much easier than you would have ever thought.

Check out Newegg's 3 part how to build a pc videos

 

[DarkLies]

If you were local to me, I'd have you over for a Saturday afternoon to build it.
You supply the beer, and I'll teach you.

Building it yourself gives a far greater understanding of how things work. So that when/if there is a problem...you'll have a much better idea of where and how to fix it.
Rather than the thing being just a black box with wires sticking out of it.

But yes...a local PC shop (NOT BestBuy!!!) would be miles cheaper than CyberPower.

Luckily I live about half a mile away from a nice place. I emailed them and they said it would cost around $185-$250. So if I get all the parts and go to them instead il be saving a good $400-$600. Maybe they will show me some things too
I appreciate the help, this goes to you as well as everyone else! 😀

 

[4745454b]

Yeah, that's a way better way to go over buying from a store online. $1k just to build it? Really?

Don't forget that you aren't locked into what Cyberpower was going to sell you. You can change any part of that build that you want. The one provided was more or less a straight carry over from what Cyberpower was selling. You can get a different case if you want, or a better PSU, etc. It will work as it is no problems. But if you hate that case for example you can get a different one.

 

[DarkLies]

Yeah, that's a way better way to go over buying from a store online. $1k just to build it? Really?

Don't forget that you aren't locked into what Cyberpower was going to sell you. You can change any part of that build that you want. The one provided was more or less a straight carry over from what Cyberpower was selling. You can get a different case if you want, or a better PSU, etc. It will work as it is no problems. But if you hate that case for example you can get a different one.

Yeah, thinking about getting a tempered glass case, whats your opinion on those?

 

[4745454b]

Cases are personal. I don't like glass myself. Too hard to keep clean. Most people love lights in their case. I can't stand them. But get a case you like.

 

[Wolfshadw]

I agree with 4745454b on this. My computer sits under my desk and I rarely see it. What is the point of having a cool looking case if you never see it? Standard black, no windows, minimal lighting (power/HDD activity/Network in back) is all I need.

-Wolf sends

 

[USAFRet]

Same here. My case has a large window on one side.
That side is facing the wall, away from me, because I don't want to see the even minimal lights on the fans that came with it.

I find too much lighting bling far too eye distracting. I'm focused on the monitors, not the blinken lights in the case.