First off I would like to say I am brand new to the pc world. I gamed for years on PlayStation before moving to pc a couple of week ago. I went with this pre-built system with intensions of upgrades. What are some of the first components I should put on my priority list as far as upgrades?
Cyberpower PC GUA2600BST sugested upgrades.
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Really wish you would have came here before buying this...
Aside from upgrading the power supply for a better quality one; Adding ram & an SSD is about all I would do to that. The AMD FX line has been a dead end for sometime though still cable of good middle of the road gaming capabilitites. Ie - its not a high end pc but you should have know that by the price you paid.
You may have been able to get a more upgradable system had you come here first asking for a little guidance.
[edit] Hey, are you still within your return period?
Aside from upgrading the power supply for a better quality one; Adding ram & an SSD is about all I would do to that. The AMD FX line has been a dead end for sometime though still cable of good middle of the road gaming capabilitites. Ie - its not a high end pc but you should have know that by the price you paid.
You may have been able to get a more upgradable system had you come here first asking for a little guidance.
[edit] Hey, are you still within your return period?
Yes I am still with in my return period.
Being my first ever pc I ever owned its just a bit over whelming, Yes I knew I was buying a lower end pc but was kinda the point since I knew I was jus diving in.
Thank you so much for your suggestions.
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Yes you would have been best served with a low end modern Intel or AMD Ryzen pc, then thre would be room to grow with processor, PSU, & GPU upgrades.
As it stands now, you're basically maxed out on processor which restricts your GPU choices.
If you're willing, you might be better served returning this and going with another starting point, or simply adding you upgrade costs to the starting point price.
As it stands now, you're basically maxed out on processor which restricts your GPU choices.
If you're willing, you might be better served returning this and going with another starting point, or simply adding you upgrade costs to the starting point price.
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I'm going to have to second that idea, even more so due to the high number of issues I've seen with CyberpowerPC and IbuypowerPC systems than the fact that it's also an old AMD FX system. Although, that's a definite issue too.
It would really help if we knew EXACTLY what components your system came with. Usually, CyberpowerPC systems come with low end power supplies, low end graphics cards (Unless you OVER pay for one of their higher end systems, which are really not higher end), lousy cases and the cheapest motherboards they can get away with using depending on the choice of CPU.
Best bet would be to return it for refund if possible. Might not BE possible though depending on if you bought it through a 3rd party seller like Newegg or if you bought it directly through CyberpowerPC. Newegg, Amazon, these places might let you return it. CyberpowerPC will likely only allow it if something is wrong or if you want to trade up. Trading up is not likely to be a good choice as you'll have to pay a lot more to get something even worth having through them.
It would really help if we knew EXACTLY what components your system came with. Usually, CyberpowerPC systems come with low end power supplies, low end graphics cards (Unless you OVER pay for one of their higher end systems, which are really not higher end), lousy cases and the cheapest motherboards they can get away with using depending on the choice of CPU.
Best bet would be to return it for refund if possible. Might not BE possible though depending on if you bought it through a 3rd party seller like Newegg or if you bought it directly through CyberpowerPC. Newegg, Amazon, these places might let you return it. CyberpowerPC will likely only allow it if something is wrong or if you want to trade up. Trading up is not likely to be a good choice as you'll have to pay a lot more to get something even worth having through them.
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Honestly, no. Really the only way you're going to get a solid system for that price is to build it yourself, which is actually not all that complicated. Prebuilt systems offer much less value per dollar because those companies need to make money in order to stay in business so you either end up paying 25% more, at least, for a decent system or getting something outdated that they can sell at about the same price as you could build something fairly decent for yourself.
For that price it is unlikely you will get a lot for your money with any prebuilt system.
WHO, exactly, did you buy this through?
For that price it is unlikely you will get a lot for your money with any prebuilt system.
WHO, exactly, did you buy this through?
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So, if it's less than 30 days then MAYBE they'll take it back, but who knows. Places are pretty sticky sometimes about what they take back and other times they don't ask many questions at all. You can try and if you end up being able to do so and want some recommendations on what would be a better use of your money, we'll be happy to help you out.
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So, that's not an FX system at all. It's got a fairly decent Ryzen CPU with 4/8 cores/threads, and that's plenty for any current game models. You are fine in this area.
Your RX 580 is pretty capable as well. Unless you are trying to game at a higher resolution than 1080p it should be perfectly fine, and even at 1440p it should be ok with some minor settings adjustments on a per game basis.
The only thing that jumps out at me immediately is the lack of an SSD and the use of only a HDD for the operating system. Get yourself a good SSD like the 850 EVO, Crucial MX300 or Sandisk Ultra II. 250GB is normally plenty.
Then you can clone your current OS installation to that drive, wipe the hard drive and use the hard drive for storage of large or seldom used files and gaming files. This would help give the whole system a much quicker feel.
The second thing you could do at some point would be to add more RAM. If you currently have two 4gb memory modules installed I'd highly recommend replacing them with two 8GB modules rather than adding two more 4gb modules as Ryzen (Much like early FX systems did) has some peculiar issues with memory (Upgrading to newer bios versions mostly fixes these issues) and especially when there are four modules installed rather than just two. A lot of systems, old and new, actually have these issues so the use of four modules rather than two is only generally a great idea if you absolutely have to, like when you need more RAM but already have the highest supported capacity modules installed and have to install more modules, rather than bigger modules, to get where you want to be. Either way is an option though.
I would also recommend that if you do upgrade the memory, you go with faster sticks, since the ones that came in that system are only the basic 2133mhz modules and Ryzen seems to really respond well to faster modules. Something like 3000 or 3200mhz would be nice in a 2 x8=16GB package.
Other than that, cooling can be addressed with a higher end cooler or additional case fans, but I wouldn't bother with this unless monitoring software shows that you are borderline or having thermal issues.
Your RX 580 is pretty capable as well. Unless you are trying to game at a higher resolution than 1080p it should be perfectly fine, and even at 1440p it should be ok with some minor settings adjustments on a per game basis.
The only thing that jumps out at me immediately is the lack of an SSD and the use of only a HDD for the operating system. Get yourself a good SSD like the 850 EVO, Crucial MX300 or Sandisk Ultra II. 250GB is normally plenty.
Then you can clone your current OS installation to that drive, wipe the hard drive and use the hard drive for storage of large or seldom used files and gaming files. This would help give the whole system a much quicker feel.
The second thing you could do at some point would be to add more RAM. If you currently have two 4gb memory modules installed I'd highly recommend replacing them with two 8GB modules rather than adding two more 4gb modules as Ryzen (Much like early FX systems did) has some peculiar issues with memory (Upgrading to newer bios versions mostly fixes these issues) and especially when there are four modules installed rather than just two. A lot of systems, old and new, actually have these issues so the use of four modules rather than two is only generally a great idea if you absolutely have to, like when you need more RAM but already have the highest supported capacity modules installed and have to install more modules, rather than bigger modules, to get where you want to be. Either way is an option though.
I would also recommend that if you do upgrade the memory, you go with faster sticks, since the ones that came in that system are only the basic 2133mhz modules and Ryzen seems to really respond well to faster modules. Something like 3000 or 3200mhz would be nice in a 2 x8=16GB package.
Other than that, cooling can be addressed with a higher end cooler or additional case fans, but I wouldn't bother with this unless monitoring software shows that you are borderline or having thermal issues.
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If you really want to do something good for your system then replacing whatever cheap-o power supply that it came with should probably be the highest priority of all. These systems almost always come with a really poor quality PSU, but occasionally I get surprised. At that price point though I'd be even more surprised if what was in there was halfway decent.
If you'd like to get me the model number of the power supply, which should be located on a sticker on one of the sides or back of the power supply, then we can positively determine what the quality is and get you a recommendation for a good one that will be safe for your hardware and have a long life.
If you'd like to get me the model number of the power supply, which should be located on a sticker on one of the sides or back of the power supply, then we can positively determine what the quality is and get you a recommendation for a good one that will be safe for your hardware and have a long life.
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Yeah, that's not a very good unit. It's not horrific, but it's very low end for use with an enthusiast or gaming type system with much more demanding hardware than a mainstream browsing or office machine would require.
I'd highly suggest that be the first thing you replace. When you are ready to do so, let me know and I'll be happy to help you select an appropriate quality unit. Do not be fooled by well known name brands or wattage ratings. Power supplies need to be chosen on a PER MODEL basis because most of these companies make both great and trash models.
I'd highly suggest that be the first thing you replace. When you are ready to do so, let me know and I'll be happy to help you select an appropriate quality unit. Do not be fooled by well known name brands or wattage ratings. Power supplies need to be chosen on a PER MODEL basis because most of these companies make both great and trash models.
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Ok, as I said, let me know when you get ready to upgrade, or at least, try to get something that is on the top two tiers here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html
Generally speaking, as far as what is available right now, if you stick to models that include Seasonic Focus or Prime series, EVGA G2, G3, P2 or T2, Corsair RMi, RMx, HXi, AXi, or Antec Edge series units, you would be pretty safe with any of those.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html
Generally speaking, as far as what is available right now, if you stick to models that include Seasonic Focus or Prime series, EVGA G2, G3, P2 or T2, Corsair RMi, RMx, HXi, AXi, or Antec Edge series units, you would be pretty safe with any of those.
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