Cyberpower PC's vs Buying Separately?

[boboru9934]

Ok, so when they have there Holiday specials and such. I put together a rig on there site and it came to around $1869 after everything. It included.


CAS: CyberPowerPC X-Titan Full-Tower Gaming Case w/ Front USB 3.0, Built-in Fan Control, EZ-Swap HDD Dock, & Side-Window Panel
CD: LG 14X Internal Blu-ray Burner, BD-RE, DVD+RW, 3D Playback Combo Drive (Black Color)
COOLANT: Standard Coolant
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-4770K 3.50 GHz 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1150 (All Venom OC Certified)
CS_FAN: Default case fans
FAN: Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA) (Single Standard 120MM Fan)
FREEBIE_CU1: Intel GRID 2 Gaming Coupon
FREEBIE_VC1: FREE AMD Ultimate Reloaded Game Bundle - Crysis 3 + Tomb Raider + BioShock Infinite + Sleeping Dog + Hitman + Far Cry 3 PC Games
HDD: 2TB (2TBx1) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
HDD2: 250GB Samsung 840 EVO Series SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 540MB/s Read & 520MB/s Write
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
MEMORY: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR3/1866MHz Dual Channel Memory Corsair Vengeance
MOTHERBOARD: [CrossFireX/SLI] ASUS Z87-K Intel Z87 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 2x PCIe x16 (1 Gen3, 1 Gen2), 2 PCIe x1 & 3 PCI (Pro OC Certified)
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
OS: Microsoft® Windows 7 Professional (64-bit Edition)
POWERSUPPLY: * 1,200 Watts - Cooler Master Silent Pro 80 Plus Gold Power Supply ( 80 Plus Gold)
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
TEMP: NZXT Sentry-2 Fan Touch Screen Fan Control & Temperature Display
VIDEO: AMD Radeon HD 7990 6GB GDDR5 16X PCIe 3.0 Dual GPU Video Card
WNC: FREE! 802.11N Dual Band Wireless + Bluetooth 4.0 Expansion Card

All that for Total of $1869 After tax.


Now with the warranty, all the games, and everything that comes with that, cause I can OC the stuff myself. That seems like a decent deal.

Where as If I select most of that stuff separately from newegg/amazon etc. I would be paying more. Good deal or not? Thanks for the advice.

 

[AMD Radeon]

as always, you can get more performance at much lower price by building the PC yourself

 

[boboru9934]

Again, I put pretty much same stuff in on pcpartpicker.com and It came out to be more. So If you can show me a Better build, or build around the same value. By all means. I am open to suggestions.

 

[ksham]

Yes; it's a good deal, and yes; it is more expensive to buy each part separately. But $1869 is still a lot. You can build an equally a powerful computer with about two-thirds of that cost.

 

[boboru9934]

Mind you, I have always bought everything separately in the past. I have never used cyber or anything. So I wanted a solid comparison of them, or maybe different build that is better or the same for cheaper.

 

[AMD Radeon]

you can start modifying this template
i5 4670K and R9 290X

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($72.90 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($98.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 290X 4GB Video Card ($585.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1306.73
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-25 13:40 EDT-0400)

 

[ksham]

^ good build. I would've picked a better case, but everything else is almost staple.

 

[boboru9934]

Comparing the Process/ video card / memory, That's an equal build? I wouldn't think it would be. Less than half the HD space, not as good of a proc or card, half the memory. no OS, no games. smaller case, more energy consuming PSU...

 

[ksham]

How about you start by listing your needs for the computer and I can help choose parts that fits your needs. Because if you don't need it, why spend extra money? That's just silly. I can come up with a $3000 build that can obliterate the build that AMD Radeon posted up. But is it worth it? No. And will you be able to use it to its maximum potential? Maybe not. That's why you wouldn't go and buy it.

 

[boboru9934]

How about you start by listing your needs for the computer and I can help choose parts that fits your needs. Because if you don't need it, why spend extra money? That's just silly. I can come up with a $3000 build that can obliterate the build that AMD Radeon posted up. But is it worth it? No. And will you be able to use it to its maximum potential? Maybe not. That's why you wouldn't go and buy it.

Well I am going to be using my 55" samsung 4k Ultra 240hz TV as my monitor...I would like something that can potentially run on 4k res....

I need the OS (I prefer Win 7 Pro)

I would like to Not go above the $1800 If possible.
Prefer Ultra settings in games like Arma 3/ BF4 etc. with at least somewhat of a stable FPS.

I mainly prefer Nvidia, but I heard the AMD cards are doing better cost/specwise....

HD space, I wanted an SSD for my OS and a select few games. and a standard HDD 1 TB is enough for movies and other crap.

I have never set up liquid cooling, so I am not sure as to putting that together myself when building my own. Thus why I have looked at the Pre-Builds/customizing them.

How is that to start with some of my needs? Mainly this is a gaming rig.

Also want a Blu Ray Burner such as the one I have in there.

 

[g-unit1111]

Yes; it's a good deal, and yes; it is more expensive to buy each part separately. But $1869 is still a lot. You can build an equally a powerful computer with about two-thirds of that cost.

Oh no you can do way better than that for $1800. Cyberpower rigs suck and they have extremely sub par technical support based on the accounts that I've read on this forum and elsewhere. A 1200W PSU is *MAJOR* overkill for a single card setup, and a lot of the other crap they include is just not needed.

This is what I would suggest:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H220 55.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($73.93 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($127.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($82.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 290X 4GB Video Card ($585.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Nanoxia Deep Silence 2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: NZXT HALE90 V2 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($185.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $1763.74
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-25 16:19 EDT-0400)

Ditches all the extra crap that comes with the Cyberpower rig, gets rid of the 1200W PSU, and you don't have to deal with Cyberpower technical support.

 

[ksham]

@g-unit1111: Please re-read. I never said that $1800 can't be better spent. I only said that if you were to buy all the parts listed, it would cost more than $1869. So in that respect, it is a good deal.

 

[g-unit1111]

@g-unit1111: Please re-read. I never said that $1800 can't be better spent. I only said that if you were to buy all the parts listed, it would cost more than $1869. So in that respect, it is a good deal.

If we're talking about the cost ratio of the parts, I would agree. However, you're stuck with Cyberpower - who's known for extremely shoddy work, and extremely below average technical support. That is where I do not think the system is a good deal.

 

[boboru9934]

What's with the i5's instead of i7s? how much difference in performance?

Also I don't want less then 16gb of memory, and I also don't want some random off brand that I have no idea about called muskin.

Also said Win 7 Pro.

and 14x BD Burner. Would 2 GTX 760s outperform the 290x?

 

[g-unit1111]

What's with the i5's instead of i7s? how much difference in performance?

Also I don't want less then 16gb of memory, and I also don't want some random off brand that I have no idea about called muskin.

Also said Win 7 Pro.

and 14x BD Burner. Would 2 GTX 760s outperform the 290x?

1. There really isn't any unless you're using your PC for video editing or rendering.

2. For gaming 16GB of RAM does absolutely nothing. And with RAM as expensive as it is right now that's not the place to go spending tons of money when you don't have to. Mushkin is not an off brand, they're based in Colorado and their SSDs and RAM have won tons of awards from various websites and publications.

3. You don't need Windows 7 Pro if you're not using more than 16GB of RAM, or you don't need the extra networking functions.

4. I'd leave off the BD-R burner. If you use it for backups that's one thing. But movie playback is not what it is advertised and is more of a chore than it should be. As far as the GPU goes, dual GTX 760 will not outperform a 290X. The 290X is one of the best cards you can get on the market right now and it even outperforms the GTX 780.

 

[boboru9934]

Right, but 2 760s outperform a 780 as well. and I wanted the memory so I can have multiple programs running and do different stuff at the same time. thus the 16, and win pro 7.

hmmm.....So tough to decide!!!! Is a 290x better then a 7990 HD?

 

[maydaytech]

I AM DOING THE SAME THING. I NEED MINE FOR VIDEO EDITING AND GAMING ON 3 1080p MONITORS.
I have spent 100 hours now pricing, doing comparasons, and researching parts etc. I have found that yes, it IS better to get the BASE system from cyberpower when they have a deal but instead of buying ANY upgrades from them like more hardrive storage, second video card for SLI, etc, do THAT yourself. I am about to order one RIGHT NOW. My only question left is how the cyberpower case compares to the enthoo primo

Ok, so when they have there Holiday specials and such. I put together a rig on there site and it came to around $1869 after everything. It included.


CAS: CyberPowerPC X-Titan Full-Tower Gaming Case w/ Front USB 3.0, Built-in Fan Control, EZ-Swap HDD Dock, & Side-Window Panel
CD: LG 14X Internal Blu-ray Burner, BD-RE, DVD+RW, 3D Playback Combo Drive (Black Color)
COOLANT: Standard Coolant
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-4770K 3.50 GHz 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1150 (All Venom OC Certified)
CS_FAN: Default case fans
FAN: Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA) (Single Standard 120MM Fan)
FREEBIE_CU1: Intel GRID 2 Gaming Coupon
FREEBIE_VC1: FREE AMD Ultimate Reloaded Game Bundle - Crysis 3 + Tomb Raider + BioShock Infinite + Sleeping Dog + Hitman + Far Cry 3 PC Games
HDD: 2TB (2TBx1) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
HDD2: 250GB Samsung 840 EVO Series SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 540MB/s Read & 520MB/s Write
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
MEMORY: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR3/1866MHz Dual Channel Memory Corsair Vengeance
MOTHERBOARD: [CrossFireX/SLI] ASUS Z87-K Intel Z87 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 2x PCIe x16 (1 Gen3, 1 Gen2), 2 PCIe x1 & 3 PCI (Pro OC Certified)
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
OS: Microsoft® Windows 7 Professional (64-bit Edition)
POWERSUPPLY: * 1,200 Watts - Cooler Master Silent Pro 80 Plus Gold Power Supply ( 80 Plus Gold)
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
TEMP: NZXT Sentry-2 Fan Touch Screen Fan Control & Temperature Display
VIDEO: AMD Radeon HD 7990 6GB GDDR5 16X PCIe 3.0 Dual GPU Video Card
WNC: FREE! 802.11N Dual Band Wireless + Bluetooth 4.0 Expansion Card

All that for Total of $1869 After tax.


Now with the warranty, all the games, and everything that comes with that, cause I can OC the stuff myself. That seems like a decent deal.

Where as If I select most of that stuff separately from newegg/amazon etc. I would be paying more. Good deal or not? Thanks for the advice.