Deal too good to be true ? Neon 2180 Gaming PC

[Perturb]

Title says it all. I intended to build myself a new PC from Canada Computer and after looking at the prices of the hardware it wouldn't be cost efficient to build a PC over getting this prebuilt one. I wanted to mention that prices in Canada are higher compared to the US and this PC would be worth in your currency (usd) to 700$.
There is the PC in question:
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=7_1203_1446_1448&item_id=084625
Should I grab it or is there something suspicious in the build ?
(Windows 8.1 comes with it so take that in consideration)

 

[getochkn]

Yes it's cheap. Because everything in it is cheap. PSU, RAM, MB, GPU. Notice they mention no brand names. There is a reason for that. If you sell a pre-built and use top-of-the-line Asus board and top knotch gold-rated PSU's, then you put those names in and throw them out there. If you are using Bestec and Zotac and other cheap brands, you conveniently leave out the name brands.

 

[Frag Maniac]

Yeah I've assembled parts spec lists for people here with similar parts and it came out to about $700, but that was with a quality PSU, MB, case, etc. They don't even tell you what case and PSU you're getting, and it has a mere B85 MB without any mention of brand.

Assembling is always better because you can pick quality parts, and they are not OEM with 2 week vs 3 yr warranty. Plus building helps you understand your PC better, vs being clueless when you need to do some troubleshooting.

What parts vendor did you reference when comparing btw? I'm not convinced you found best pricing in CAN.

 

[getochkn]

I admit I don't know much about Intel board,

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/G7m8Bm

But $915 with name brand parts and OS. Just need a case, which is a preference.

 

[USAFRet]

That's a no-name box with $500 of no-name parts in it.

 

[Perturb]

Yes it's cheap. Because everything in it is cheap. PSU, RAM, MB, GPU. Notice they mention no brand names. There is a reason for that. If you sell a pre-built and use top-of-the-line Asus board and top knotch gold-rated PSU's, then you put those names in and throw them out there. If you are using Bestec and Zotac and other cheap brands, you conveniently leave out the name brands.

So would it mean it isn't worth getting ? I mean the PSU doesn't really bother me since when I swap the GPU I most likely change the PSU also, the RAM must be a least half decent and the MB doesn't really matter that much for gaming since it socket can support up to i7. Of course I don't wanna argue with you since I'm sure you know much more about it than me but would you recommend me to ignore it and build a pc on my own instead ? (it would cost prob more if I get all the pieces in canada comp)

 

[USAFRet]

Yes it's cheap. Because everything in it is cheap. PSU, RAM, MB, GPU. Notice they mention no brand names. There is a reason for that. If you sell a pre-built and use top-of-the-line Asus board and top knotch gold-rated PSU's, then you put those names in and throw them out there. If you are using Bestec and Zotac and other cheap brands, you conveniently leave out the name brands.

So would it mean it isn't worth getting ? I mean the PSU doesn't really bother me since when I swap the GPU I most likely change the PSU also, the RAM must be a least half decent and the MB doesn't really matter that much for gaming since it socket can support up to i7. Of course I don't wanna argue with you since I'm sure you know much more about it than me but would you recommend me to ignore it and build a pc on my own instead ? (it would cost prob more if I get all the pieces in canada comp)

You're buying it, knowing you are replacing parts to start with.
Why buy parts twice? GPU and PSU.

 

[Perturb]

Yeah I've assembled parts spec lists for people here with similar parts and it came out to about $700, but that was with a quality PSU, MB, case, etc. They don't even tell you what case and PSU you're getting, and it has a mere B85 MB without any mention of brand.

Assembling is always better because you can pick quality parts, and they are not OEM with 2 week vs 3 yr warranty. Plus building helps you understand your PC better, vs being clueless when you need to do some troubleshooting.

What parts vendor did you reference when comparing btw? I'm not convinced you found best pricing in CAN.

Since I don't wanna buy online I have to get to a retailer that actually has stores and Canada Computer is probably the best for me since the hardware prices are really comparable to Newegg (Can)

 

[Perturb]

Yeah I've assembled parts spec lists for people here with similar parts and it came out to about $700, but that was with a quality PSU, MB, case, etc. They don't even tell you what case and PSU you're getting, and it has a mere B85 MB without any mention of brand.

Assembling is always better because you can pick quality parts, and they are not OEM with 2 week vs 3 yr warranty. Plus building helps you understand your PC better, vs being clueless when you need to do some troubleshooting.

What parts vendor did you reference when comparing btw? I'm not convinced you found best pricing in CAN.

Since I don't wanna buy online I have to get to a retailer that actually has stores and Canada Computer is probably the best for me since the hardware prices are really comparable to Newegg (Can)

 

[Perturb]

Yes it's cheap. Because everything in it is cheap. PSU, RAM, MB, GPU. Notice they mention no brand names. There is a reason for that. If you sell a pre-built and use top-of-the-line Asus board and top knotch gold-rated PSU's, then you put those names in and throw them out there. If you are using Bestec and Zotac and other cheap brands, you conveniently leave out the name brands.

So would it mean it isn't worth getting ? I mean the PSU doesn't really bother me since when I swap the GPU I most likely change the PSU also, the RAM must be a least half decent and the MB doesn't really matter that much for gaming since it socket can support up to i7. Of course I don't wanna argue with you since I'm sure you know much more about it than me but would you recommend me to ignore it and build a pc on my own instead ? (it would cost prob more if I get all the pieces in canada comp)

You're buying it, knowing you are replacing parts to start with.
Why buy parts twice? GPU and PSU.

I mean for a prebuilt system it looks kinda decent and the prob here is that I never built a PC and I'm kinda scared to break pieces since the hardware would cost me around 1000$ with taxes

 

[USAFRet]

No, it doesn't look 'kinda decent'. It has all the parts for a functioning system, but they give you no info as to what they are.
They do that for a reason.

 

[Perturb]

No, it doesn't look 'kinda decent'. It has all the parts for a functioning system, but they give you no info as to what they are.
They do that for a reason.

So I should just build my own PC ? Or is it worth paying 75$ for them to build it for me ?

 

[USAFRet]

No, it doesn't look 'kinda decent'. It has all the parts for a functioning system, but they give you no info as to what they are.
They do that for a reason.

So I should just build my own PC ? Or is it worth paying 75$ for them to build it for me ?

The deal with building your own is that you get to pick out all the parts. It may or may not be 'cheaper', but you will know exactly what you're getting.

As far as actual construction. It's not that hard. Newegg has a good series on youtube for this.
And any intelligent 10 year old can put one together.

 

[Perturb]

No, it doesn't look 'kinda decent'. It has all the parts for a functioning system, but they give you no info as to what they are.
They do that for a reason.

So I should just build my own PC ? Or is it worth paying 75$ for them to build it for me ?

The deal with building your own is that you get to pick out all the parts. It may or may not be 'cheaper', but you will know exactly what you're getting.

As far as actual construction. It's not that hard. Newegg has a good series on youtube for this.
And any intelligent 10 year old can put one together.

What scares me isn't taking the time to build one but more like breaking up my PC which would lead to me losing my money...

 

[getochkn]

Even if you picked out the parts and paid them to build it, you'd end up better off. But's it's not hard if you take your time to do and it's rewarding.

I think my build for around the same price is better by far and as I said, I don't know a lot about intel.

 

[James Mason]

Don't be afraid to build your own PC bro, it's really easy, just watch these two videos as they cover the entire process and don't skip over things:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIF43-0mDk4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zAdwedmj1M

 

[Perturb]

Even if you picked out the parts and paid them to build it, you'd end up better off. But's it's not hard if you take your time to do and it's rewarding.

I think my build for around the same price is better by far and as I said, I don't know a lot about intel.

Yeah but what do you think is the % of risk of breaking parts for someone inexperienced ?

 

[Frag Maniac]

Even if you picked out the parts and paid them to build it, you'd end up better off. But's it's not hard if you take your time to do and it's rewarding.

I think my build for around the same price is better by far and as I said, I don't know a lot about intel.

Yeah but what do you think is the % of risk of breaking parts for someone inexperienced ?

If you pay attention to detail, near 0%.

They only cover it on maybe 1 plug type in that Newegg series, and don't really elaborate on the rest, which is my biggest nit pick about it, but literally ALL plugs in building PCs can only be inserted one way. All you need do is carefully examine the plug and socket shape to see how they're supposed to line up.

As he says in the guide though, read the MB manual. Not beginning to end, that would be intimidating. Just go to the section for each part being installed one at a time and it will explain things. It will show close up pics of where each socket or header pins are for connecting each device, and MB sockets and pins are labeled ON the board too.

Use bright lighting and if you have a hard time seeing anything, consider getting a small lighted magnifying glass. This is the one I bought a while ago, and it works great. http://www.ebay.com/itm/6X-Magnifier-Illuminated-Pocket-Handle-LED-Light-Magnifying-Glass-600555-/291350106106?hash=item43d5d1cffa

MBs are much more plug n play now too. You used to have to set jumper pins or BIOS settings, but now they auto detect mostly for basic installation.

Here's the main thing though that I tell EVERYONE new to PC building. The majority of the time the harder things to learn for beginners is the software end. BIOS, drivers, OS, and the many facets of getting finicky games installed, troubleshooting, tweaking, etc.

That is still going to be there with a prebuilt, and a MUCH bigger hurdle than mere assembly and testing. I've seen marathon threads where people get build advice, finally choose and build the parts, only to be intimidated and frustrated by the software end of things.

If you can handle the software end of the basics of operating a PC, you can easily handle assembling one.