decent/budget system!

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This PC I want to build is for simple tasks (web, emailing, office)..
i will install both Linux and Window2k and winXP.. I want decent
computer with limited budget.. all the prices are in Canadian $.. I
thought the CPU would work at the speed 333 Mhz with the Memory and
333/2 with the rest of the computer so it is fast... any feedback
would be very much appreciated.. thanks


1) Athlon XP 2500+ (Barton) w/ 512K L2 cache, FSB 333 RETAIL BOX $116
2) MSI KM4M-L VIA KM400, MicroATX more info $79
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/detail_spec/product_detail.asp?model=KM4M-L

3) Crucial 256MB PC-2700 DDR333 SDRAM $77
4) Maxtor 40GB $67
5) Samsung (SW-252F) 52x32x52 CD-RW w/ Nero OEM $29.99
6) Sony 52X CD-ROM OEM $24
7) CAS-K228D Mid Tower w/ 400W PSU image $35

 

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esara wrote:

> 3) Crucial 256MB PC-2700 DDR333 SDRAM $77

IMHO you should start with 512 MB

> 5) Samsung (SW-252F) 52x32x52 CD-RW w/ Nero OEM $29.99
> 6) Sony 52X CD-ROM OEM $24

Why the two drives? You can copy cds without the second drive. For the
same money you can have one combo drive that will burn cds and also play
DVDs.

I got a nice NEC DVD writer for about 100 USD. It does everything.

 

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esara wrote:

> This PC I want to build is for simple tasks (web, emailing, office)..
> i will install both Linux and Window2k and winXP.. I want decent
> computer with limited budget.. all the prices are in Canadian $.. I
> thought the CPU would work at the speed 333 Mhz with the Memory and
> 333/2 with the rest of the computer so it is fast... any feedback
> would be very much appreciated.. thanks
>
> 1) Athlon XP 2500+ (Barton) w/ 512K L2 cache, FSB 333 RETAIL BOX $116
> 2) MSI KM4M-L VIA KM400, MicroATX more info $79
> http://www.msicomputer.com/product/detail_spec/product_detail.asp?model=KM4M-L

I guess you plan to overclock this? Otherwise an XP2700+ or
XP2800+ might be a better deal?

If you want integrated graphics, then consider only nForce2 motherboards,
and two matching ram sticks.

>
>
> 3) Crucial 256MB PC-2700 DDR333 SDRAM $77

Get two matching ram sticks. Two 256 meg sticks would be good.
Windows XP is not so great with only 256 meg.

>
> 4) Maxtor 40GB $67

Why such a small hard drive? An 80 gig 7200 rpm hard drive might only be
$10 or $15 more?

>
> 5) Samsung (SW-252F) 52x32x52 CD-RW w/ Nero OEM $29.99

>
> 6) Sony 52X CD-ROM OEM $24

Why? Skip this, or get a DVD drive instead.

>
> 7) CAS-K228D Mid Tower w/ 400W PSU image $35

 

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ToolPackinMama <laura@lauragoodwin.org> wrote in message news:<4116C622.F65E4B7D@lauragoodwin.org>...
> esara wrote:
>
> > 3) Crucial 256MB PC-2700 DDR333 SDRAM $77
>
> IMHO you should start with 512 MB
>
> > 5) Samsung (SW-252F) 52x32x52 CD-RW w/ Nero OEM $29.99
> > 6) Sony 52X CD-ROM OEM $24
>
> Why the two drives? You can copy cds without the second drive. For the
> same money you can have one combo drive that will burn cds and also play
> DVDs.
>
> I got a nice NEC DVD writer for about 100 USD. It does everything.

Thanks for the help! what do you mean by the combo?? is it DVD/CDRW??
what is the model number/link of your NEC DVD? thanks once again. take
care

 

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Thanks JK for your help and reply .. no I do not want to overclock my
pc! I thought that cpu can work at speed 333Mhz.. but I will take your
advice about the cpu.. about the Video Card do you mean I should buy
VC spreataly?? Gforce?? I thought that motherboard has Video card and
it is ok so simple application.. not game for sure..what do you
think?? I agree about the CDrom and about the memory.. thanks once
again..

JK <JK9821@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<4116CE99.116FB624@netscape.net>...
> esara wrote:
>
> > This PC I want to build is for simple tasks (web, emailing, office)..
> > i will install both Linux and Window2k and winXP.. I want decent
> > computer with limited budget.. all the prices are in Canadian $.. I
> > thought the CPU would work at the speed 333 Mhz with the Memory and
> > 333/2 with the rest of the computer so it is fast... any feedback
> > would be very much appreciated.. thanks
> >
> > 1) Athlon XP 2500+ (Barton) w/ 512K L2 cache, FSB 333 RETAIL BOX $116
> > 2) MSI KM4M-L VIA KM400, MicroATX more info $79
> > http://www.msicomputer.com/product/detail_spec/product_detail.asp?model=KM4M-L
>
> I guess you plan to overclock this? Otherwise an XP2700+ or
> XP2800+ might be a better deal?
>
> If you want integrated graphics, then consider only nForce2 motherboards,
> and two matching ram sticks.
>
> >
> >
> > 3) Crucial 256MB PC-2700 DDR333 SDRAM $77
>
> Get two matching ram sticks. Two 256 meg sticks would be good.
> Windows XP is not so great with only 256 meg.
>
> >
> > 4) Maxtor 40GB $67
>
> Why such a small hard drive? An 80 gig 7200 rpm hard drive might only be
> $10 or $15 more?
>
> >
> > 5) Samsung (SW-252F) 52x32x52 CD-RW w/ Nero OEM $29.99
>
> >
> > 6) Sony 52X CD-ROM OEM $24
>
> Why? Skip this, or get a DVD drive instead.
>
> >
> > 7) CAS-K228D Mid Tower w/ 400W PSU image $35

 

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esara wrote:

> Thanks JK for your help and reply .. no I do not want to overclock my
> pc! I thought that cpu can work at speed 333Mhz.. but I will take your
> advice about the cpu.. about the Video Card do you mean I should buy
> VC spreataly??

Not unless you are into gaming. I meant a motherboard that has
the nForce2 chipset with integrated graphics. It is the best integrated
graphics solution for the Athlon XP. A separate video card would be better,
however it would cost more, and add a bit of complexity to the system.
You might be able to get a 32 bit MX440 videocard for only around $20-25?


> Gforce?? I thought that motherboard has Video card and
> it is ok so simple application..

It is okay, but it way lower performance a bit, and take up some of
your system ram. A separate card would be better, but since your
budget is so tight, you might not want to go for it.

> not game for sure..what do you
> think?? I agree about the CDrom and about the memory.. thanks once
> again..

Also think about an 80 gig hard drive. The price is very close to the
40 gig ones. It is well worth paying $15 more for.

>
>
> JK <JK9821@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<4116CE99.116FB624@netscape.net>...
> > esara wrote:
> >
> > > This PC I want to build is for simple tasks (web, emailing, office)..
> > > i will install both Linux and Window2k and winXP.. I want decent
> > > computer with limited budget.. all the prices are in Canadian $.. I
> > > thought the CPU would work at the speed 333 Mhz with the Memory and
> > > 333/2 with the rest of the computer so it is fast... any feedback
> > > would be very much appreciated.. thanks
> > >
> > > 1) Athlon XP 2500+ (Barton) w/ 512K L2 cache, FSB 333 RETAIL BOX $116
> > > 2) MSI KM4M-L VIA KM400, MicroATX more info $79
> > > http://www.msicomputer.com/product/detail_spec/product_detail.asp?model=KM4M-L
> >
> > I guess you plan to overclock this? Otherwise an XP2700+ or
> > XP2800+ might be a better deal?
> >
> > If you want integrated graphics, then consider only nForce2 motherboards,
> > and two matching ram sticks.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > 3) Crucial 256MB PC-2700 DDR333 SDRAM $77
> >
> > Get two matching ram sticks. Two 256 meg sticks would be good.
> > Windows XP is not so great with only 256 meg.
> >
> > >
> > > 4) Maxtor 40GB $67
> >
> > Why such a small hard drive? An 80 gig 7200 rpm hard drive might only be
> > $10 or $15 more?
> >
> > >
> > > 5) Samsung (SW-252F) 52x32x52 CD-RW w/ Nero OEM $29.99
> >
> > >
> > > 6) Sony 52X CD-ROM OEM $24
> >
> > Why? Skip this, or get a DVD drive instead.
> >
> > >
> > > 7) CAS-K228D Mid Tower w/ 400W PSU image $35

 

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JK wrote:
>
> esara wrote:
>
> > Thanks JK for your help and reply .. no I do not want to overclock my
> > pc! I thought that cpu can work at speed 333Mhz.. but I will take your
> > advice about the cpu.. about the Video Card do you mean I should buy
> > VC spreataly??
>
> Not unless you are into gaming. I meant a motherboard that has
> the nForce2 chipset with integrated graphics. It is the best integrated
> graphics solution for the Athlon XP. A separate video card would be better,
> however it would cost more, and add a bit of complexity to the system.
> You might be able to get a 32 bit MX440 videocard for only around $20-25?

IMHO, the onboard vid would be better than a cheap add-in vid card.

 

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Integrated nForce2 graphics would be okay with 2 sticks of ram. Some of
the cheapest old video cards would be worse than nForce2, but a 32 meg MX440 or
similar video card would still probably be just a bit better than the
nForce2 graphics.

ToolPackinMama wrote:

> JK wrote:
> >
> > esara wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks JK for your help and reply .. no I do not want to overclock my
> > > pc! I thought that cpu can work at speed 333Mhz.. but I will take your
> > > advice about the cpu.. about the Video Card do you mean I should buy
> > > VC spreataly??
> >
> > Not unless you are into gaming. I meant a motherboard that has
> > the nForce2 chipset with integrated graphics. It is the best integrated
> > graphics solution for the Athlon XP. A separate video card would be better,
> > however it would cost more, and add a bit of complexity to the system.
> > You might be able to get a 32 bit MX440 videocard for only around $20-25?
>
> IMHO, the onboard vid would be better than a cheap add-in vid card.

 

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Hi JK thanks for your reply.. why you keep saying nForce2?? do you
think it is the one onboard for that Motherboard?? I do not see they
said so!!
Or do you know any one has nforce2 onboard? thanks

JK <JK9821@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<41182FC7.2AF911F1@netscape.net>...
> Integrated nForce2 graphics would be okay with 2 sticks of ram. Some of
> the cheapest old video cards would be worse than nForce2, but a 32 meg MX440 or
> similar video card would still probably be just a bit better than the
> nForce2 graphics.
>
> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>
> > JK wrote:
> > >
> > > esara wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks JK for your help and reply .. no I do not want to overclock my
> > > > pc! I thought that cpu can work at speed 333Mhz.. but I will take your
> > > > advice about the cpu.. about the Video Card do you mean I should buy
> > > > VC spreataly??
> > >
> > > Not unless you are into gaming. I meant a motherboard that has
> > > the nForce2 chipset with integrated graphics. It is the best integrated
> > > graphics solution for the Athlon XP. A separate video card would be better,
> > > however it would cost more, and add a bit of complexity to the system.
> > > You might be able to get a 32 bit MX440 videocard for only around $20-25?
> >
> > IMHO, the onboard vid would be better than a cheap add-in vid card.