[SOLVED] Decent PC can’t reach 60 fos in AAA Games?

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So I recently upgraded mu gtx 1060 3gb to a 1060 6gb SSC. Now I noticed a pretty big jump in fps in games like fortnite and CS:GO. But for some reason I struggle to maintain a steady framerate in games like gta V and Battlefield V. It is to the point of being unplayable. I played BFV online for an hour and didn’t even reach 60 once and averaged at 40-45. But Fortnite will stay over 100 fps unless in tilted (normal for everyone) My GPU under load never goes over 82 degrees and my cpu maxed at 69 degrees. I just updated my gpu drivers with geforce experience when I installed my gpu. I am really not happy with my pc right now and I am thinking of trying to sell it and just restarting.

Specs:
EVGA GTX 1060 SSC
Ryzen 3 1300x
2x4 gb 2133 DDR4 Ram (upgrading to 2x8 2666 mhz very soon hopefully that fixes it)
Gigabyte gaming 3 B350 MB
1tb WD blue HDD
evga 500W B+ Bronze

 
Solution
The 1060 is not a high end card, and 6gb of VRAM, while sufficient isn't a lot for really large games like Battlefield V and GTA which are both very demanding, and have large world spaces and texture (meaning they use a lot of RAM and VRAM). If you have your textures cranked to max, and you're running at a high resolution I'm not surprised that you aren't hitting 60fps. So, to answer your question your GPU is slow, and more VRAM+RAM couldn't hurt.
Fortnite/csgo is a different kettle of fish compared to those other games you mentioned, they're not as taxing.

Seeing you used Geforce Exp to update drivers, do you also use it to optimise games? If you do, don't. It does a terrible job at optimising and it often sets settings too high especially dsr factors increasing the scaling.

What resolution are you running?
 


Just using 1920x1080. I just honestly don’t understand how the 1060 6gb ssc seemed to barely have an impact. I got it on a sale for $120 off so I am not really complaining but it is still very odd how I can’t reach 60 with a card like that.
 
The 1060 is not a high end card, and 6gb of VRAM, while sufficient isn't a lot for really large games like Battlefield V and GTA which are both very demanding, and have large world spaces and texture (meaning they use a lot of RAM and VRAM). If you have your textures cranked to max, and you're running at a high resolution I'm not surprised that you aren't hitting 60fps. So, to answer your question your GPU is slow, and more VRAM+RAM couldn't hurt.
 
Solution
I'm not sure I have the answer to your problem but there are several points worth looking at.

First, you have very slow memory, and 2666mhz memory isn't going to fix that. Ryzen's infinity fabric interconnect architecture very closely ties CPU performance to memory performance, and anything less than 2933mhz memory speeds tends to not allow it to perform well. Updating your BIOS to the most recent version and getting a 2 x8GB set of 3000mhz modules would go a long way towards alleviating that problem.

Also, Ryzen single core performance is not very good. A 3rd Gen Intel CPU, which is 6 generations and six years old, has better single core performance than any of the current Zen based Ryzen CPUs. So that means on any games or applications that thrive on single core performance you're not going to do as well as if you had an Intel platform. Even one that isn't necessarily current. We are certainly seeing signs of applications and games being optimized for multithreading more and more all the time but there are still a good many that are not, at least not very well.

So there might be some circumstances where that is a problem for you depending on the specific game.

Plus, the Ryzen 3 doesn't really HAVE the truck load of threads found on higher end Ryzen CPUs, so really it doesn't even have that going for it.

Certainly those are both things that are affecting you but probably not as much as the slow memory.

Then there is the fact that you "updated my gpu drivers with geforce experience". No. Uh uh. That is about the LAST thing you want to do.

My advice would be that EVERY SINGLE TIME you update your graphics card drivers you do a clean install. Sure, it's an extra half hour worth of work, big deal. The result is a MUCH improved and FAR less problematic driver environment and installation that by itself eliminates many of the most common graphics card issues we see every day.

I'd recommend you start with these items and then other, more advanced solutions can be pursued if you don't get the results you are looking for.

Also, if you have been riding the same Windows installation for some time, especially though several major spring and fall updates or even worse, an update from a previous version of Windows, then a clean install can do wonders for the performance of most games and applications as well as just the OS speed itself.

Here are the first steps to take when trying to solve these kinds of hardware problems. If you have already tried these steps, all of them, exactly as outlined, we can move along to more advanced solutions.

If there are any you have NOT done, it would be advisable to do so if for no other reason than to be able to say you've already done it and eliminate that possibility.

If this is a no-POST issue, then refer to these instructions.

**Click here for help troubleshooting hardware and No-POST issues

Otherwise, continue on.



First, make sure your motherboard has the MOST recent BIOS version installed. If it does not, then update. This solves a high number of issues even in cases where the release that is newer than yours makes no mention of improving graphics card or other hardware compatibility. They do not list every change they have made when they post a new BIOS release.

Second, go to the product page for your motherboard on the manufacturer website. Download and install the latest driver versions for the chipset, storage controllers, audio and network adapters. Do not skip installing a newer driver just because you think it is not relevant to the problem you are having. The drivers for one device can often affect ALL other devices and a questionable driver release can cause instability in the OS itself. They don't release new drivers just for fun. If there is a new driver release for a component, there is a good reason for it. The same goes for BIOS updates.

IF you have other hardware installed or attached to the system that are not a part of the systems covered by the motherboard drivers, then go to the support page for THAT component and check to see if there are newer drivers available for that as well. If there are, install them.

The last thing we want to look at, for now anyhow, is the graphics card drivers. Regardless of whether you "already installed the newest drivers" for your graphics card or not, it is OFTEN a good idea to do a CLEAN install of the graphics card drivers. Just installing over the old drivers OR trying to use what Nvidia and AMD consider a clean install is not good enough and does not usually give the same result as using the Display Driver Uninstaller utility. This has a very high success rate and is always worth a shot.

If you have had both Nvidia and AMD cards installed at any point on that operating system then you will want to run the DDU twice. Once for the old card drivers (ie, Nvidia or AMD) and again for the currently installed graphics card drivers (ie, AMD or Nvidia). So if you had an Nvidia card at some point in the past, run it first for Nvidia and then after that is complete, run it again for AMD if you currently have an AMD card installed.

Here are the full instructions on running the Display driver uninstaller and CLEAN installing new drivers.

*Graphics card CLEAN install tutorial using the DDU*


Windows 10 Clean install tutorial


I'm not saying that any of that, short of probably the memory replacement, is going to FOR SURE make a major change for you, but they are ALL certainly things I'd want to look at because they are things I recommend often here and probably 75% of the time, or more, one or another of them, or all of them together, is usually the relevant solution.
 
I agree with jdog

1060 is a 1080p 60Hz card. The 3gb version of the 1060 is only slightly slower but the extra cuda cores does help the 6gb version.

Would have been more ideal going a 1070 or lower details. Ie; grass on ultra in gta5 kills any system, just a 1060 is more noticeable.

Are you using Geforce experience?
 


In fact, it's pretty much abysmal at everything it does, and in my experience it typically CAUSES more problems that it solves.
 

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