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Had to watch it a second time since I couldn't get past the extra digit on the first round. Looks pretty sleek although he had problems with the double tap zoom
 
It seems like this phone would be too big to be practical for a lot of people. Personally, I would love it, just not sure if people want a 5 inch brick in their pockets. Although it is a very pretty 5 inch brick!
 
[citation][nom]homrqt[/nom]I love all these new phones popping up.[/citation]
I can just see it now......

Any day now they'll probably release a new phone that requires you to schedule an appointment where you go in, they cut out part of your skull, then install the phone, attaching it to your brain, then close you up and activate it.
 
[citation][nom]c0r3f1ght3r[/nom]seriously 1300mah battery.... GTFO[/citation]

Without knowing the voltage of the battery, your assertion that a 1300mah battery is somehow inferior is pretty pointless. How about you "gtfo"?
 
[citation][nom]joebob2000[/nom]Without knowing the voltage of the battery, your assertion that a 1300mah battery is somehow inferior is pretty pointless. How about you "gtfo"?[/citation]

He's got a point.
The battery not being either a 3.6v li-ion or li-poly cell would be really fishy considering what's out there and frankly, with the size of the screen, the wireless oriented utility and the fact that the device is much larger than some smartphones sporting better battery capacity, I can't help but being disappointed at the 1300mAh figure as well.

For the record, I consider my ipod touch to be a better portable computing experience than any computer I have from the $299 netbook to the $2400 x200s tablet. I'm serious; it does everything I need it for on the go, it's fully solid-state, it fits in my pocket and best of all, I can use it with one hand holding it under a desk while eating lunch. I, for one, would love to see a similar device with much better battery autonomy and perhaps a slightly larger screen real-estate but if this thing only runs for 2hours and a half, I'm out.
 
[citation][nom]kravmaga[/nom]He's got a point.The battery not being either a 3.6v li-ion or li-poly cell would be really fishy considering what's out there and frankly, with the size of the screen, the wireless oriented utility and the fact that the device is much larger than some smartphones sporting better battery capacity, I can't help but being disappointed at the 1300mAh figure as well. For the record, I consider my ipod touch to be a better portable computing experience than any computer I have from the $299 netbook to the $2400 x200s tablet. I'm serious; it does everything I need it for on the go, it's fully solid-state, it fits in my pocket and best of all, I can use it with one hand holding it under a desk while eating lunch. I, for one, would love to see a similar device with much better battery autonomy and perhaps a slightly larger screen real-estate but if this thing only runs for 2hours and a half, I'm out.[/citation]

Except it's *not*a*phone*. There's room for two (or even three) phone batteries in there considering it's size. To think it uses a 'normal' phone battery is crazy, why would they sell a huge device and give it a phone battery?
 
[citation][nom]joebob2000[/nom]Except it's *not*a*phone*. There's room for two (or even three) phone batteries in there considering it's size. To think it uses a 'normal' phone battery is crazy, why would they sell a huge device and give it a phone battery?[/citation]

Well, that's what *I'm* trying to say.
Here, quoting myself: "[...]and the fact that the device is much larger than some smartphones sporting better battery capacity, I can't help but being disappointed at the 1300mAh figure as well"

This thing could have easily been an amazingly good thing to me but the battery capacity being listed as a sub-par 1300mAh (I'm assuming because some designer insisted on loosing .025inch of thickness) is a big turn off to me and c0r3f1ght3r.
 
[citation][nom]kravmaga[/nom]Well, that's what *I'm* trying to say.Here, quoting myself: "[...]and the fact that the device is much larger than some smartphones sporting better battery capacity, I can't help but being disappointed at the 1300mAh figure as well"This thing could have easily been an amazingly good thing to me but the battery capacity being listed as a sub-par 1300mAh (I'm assuming because some designer insisted on loosing .025inch of thickness) is a big turn off to me and c0r3f1ght3r.[/citation]


Try to follow along here... It is not known how much run time the unit will have, as saying '1300mah' is about as useful as saying 'my car has a 30 gallon tank therefore it will go a long way'. Is it gasoline or diesel? Is it a tiny gas/electric hybrid or a Kenworth Semi rig? Even if you can safely assume the cpu and screen power draw, saying you have 1300mah means NOTHING AT ALL UNLESS YOU KNOW THE VOLTAGE.
 
[citation][nom]joebob2000[/nom]Try to follow along here... It is not known how much run time the unit will have, as saying '1300mah' is about as useful as saying 'my car has a 30 gallon tank therefore it will go a long way'. Is it gasoline or diesel? Is it a tiny gas/electric hybrid or a Kenworth Semi rig? Even if you can safely assume the cpu and screen power draw, saying you have 1300mah means NOTHING AT ALL UNLESS YOU KNOW THE VOLTAGE.[/citation]

Look. I understood your argument the minute I read it the first time; I'm not disputing the ambiguity of the 1300mAh notation. My point is that it's more than reasonable to assume it's going to be one li-ion battery inside and here's why in case you disagree:

You won't find a single device this thin that uses more than one cell in series because using a bunch of small cells in series as opposed to a single larger cell doesn't make any sense. Multiple cells in series require a more complex wiring and circuit that balances the charge between the different cells so the pack doesn't get unbalanced and prone to reverse charging failure (look that one up, it's not pretty) and that setup ends up more expensive than the regular lithium-ion condom circuits by a long shot. The only reason why laptop batteries are still wired in series is because of 18650 cells' larger capacity variances which is cheaper for battery manufacturers to compensate by capacity-matching them in pairs, in turn making it cheaper for computer makers to buy them that way pre-matched. Using cells in series is the reason why sony and the likes have had to recall battery packs after finding out that the matching margins weren't good enough.

And short of the cells in series theory, the only reason why the voltage would not be 3.6V would be a different cell chemistry. Again, you won't find one because to make something this thin and this kind of guts, there's no alternative to prismatic lithium cells.

At the end of the day, the reason why they don't even bother to tell you single cell devices are 3.6V is because they are always 3.6V. And as much as I'd love people to start using watt-hours instead, I'm gonna have to file it under "good luck with that".
 
I honestly wouldn't mind a phone that big, if it has the functionality of a phone... Can't stand these tiny screens on the phones of now.
 
[citation][nom]kravmaga[/nom]Look. I understood your argument the minute I read it the first time; I'm not disputing the ambiguity of the 1300mAh notation. My point is that it's more than reasonable to assume it's going to be one li-ion battery inside and here's why in case you disagree:You won't find a single device this thin that uses more than one cell in series because using a bunch of small cells in series as opposed to a single larger cell doesn't make any sense. Multiple cells in series require a more complex wiring and circuit that balances the charge between the different cells so the pack doesn't get unbalanced and prone to reverse charging failure (look that one up, it's not pretty) and that setup ends up more expensive than the regular lithium-ion condom circuits by a long shot. The only reason why laptop batteries are still wired in series is because of 18650 cells' larger capacity variances which is cheaper for battery manufacturers to compensate by capacity-matching them in pairs, in turn making it cheaper for computer makers to buy them that way pre-matched. Using cells in series is the reason why sony and the likes have had to recall battery packs after finding out that the matching margins weren't good enough.And short of the cells in series theory, the only reason why the voltage would not be 3.6V would be a different cell chemistry. Again, you won't find one because to make something this thin and this kind of guts, there's no alternative to prismatic lithium cells.At the end of the day, the reason why they don't even bother to tell you single cell devices are 3.6V is because they are always 3.6V. And as much as I'd love people to start using watt-hours instead, I'm gonna have to file it under "good luck with that".[/citation]


hehe, was thinking along those lines, I think this qualifies as 'owned' :)
 
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