Dell Forecasts Death of PC in Latest SEC Filing

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kylerg

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I don't see the PC market declining, ever. It's called competition and as time goes on, more and more competition surfaces. There will always be things that computers are superior at that tablets and phones cannot do (yet, I guess).

I guess Dell is trying to say that since their company is declining, the PC market is. Which is the dumbest thing I have heard. It's called user awareness and as users become aware of what their buying they turn to better deals or the DIY market.
 

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I didn't bother reading this article because it is the same old crap. However, they are right in one aspect, eventually PCs as we know them today will die and disappear. That is the evolution of technology but it will not happen any time soon. Early adopters of new technology already experience computers in a whole new aspect, even wondered what it's like to be Bill Gates for example?
The majority of people are no where near this level of adoption though. We still haven't got the internet everywhere yet in the first world, let alone in less developed countries.
The PC as we know it will be around for many years to come.
 
pc market dies every other quarter for different un/realistic reasons.
diy enthusiasts get screwed over by cpu companies every year.
pc gaming gets killed off by consoles every year or whenever a console, no matter how minor or insignificant(psvita) launches.
dell captures the number one spot as pc vendor.
every one buys dell smartphones and tablets.
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[citation][nom]the great randini[/nom]What gamer wants to play bf3 on a tablet.[/citation]

Absolutely. I dont think many PC enthusiasts are gaga about massive cases/power requirements/etc(ok, secretly we are)...but physical peripherals are essential to the gaming experience.

Hell, it be great if an Apple TV could run BIOSHOCK Infinite at 120FPS, Max Settings, 1440p...but until these watered down consumer devices outpace software, no thanks.
 

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the PC can't die, it can only evolve, different people have different computing needs, some people need way more computing power than what is available with tablets and smart phones. The only thing that changes is technology but the PC won't die.
 

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"Bring-Your-Own-Device" is convenient, but may create security holes unless a company has proper measures in place. As for the death of the PC, even if demand from mainstream consumers and businesses decline it will always have a market of enthusiasts.
 

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Sigh...
 
[citation][nom]the great randini[/nom]Its just a sad ploy to lower the stock price so he can buy out his own company and take it private agian. What gamer wants to play bf3 on a tablet.[/citation]

What gamer would want to play BF3 on a Dell? Just because enthusiasts want high end PCs and refresh doesn't mean the population as a whole needs or wants to spend money. They dont. And that's who Dell targets

The FACTS listed are fine and true. We arent on the upswing of the PC market. Sales are decreasing. But they certainly aren't about to die. Other devices are taking money/market share. And Dell needs to adapt. So why is everyone commenting on the title? That's not what Dell said, that's just a bad title picked by a reporter to get clicks.
 
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What gamer would want to play BF3 on a Dell? Just because enthusiasts want high end PCs and refresh doesn't mean the population as a whole needs or wants to spend money. They dont. And that's who Dell targets
If Dell is targeting people that don't want to spend money it's no wonder they are going broke.
 

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I think a lot of you make very good points.

Here's a list of things that will prevent the PC from going tits up:
Desktop editing
Workstation applications
Architecture
CAD
Spreadsheets/accounting
Photo editing

All of these require large screens and PC levels of processing power (yes, higher end laptops can manage)

No iPad, Android or Surface is gonna be able to do that.

I haven't touched on gaming because there is something intimately creative about building your own rig. Aside from wanting epic levels of performance, we want things our way and again no consumer level of touch screen device is gonna do that.

The PS4 and Xbox 720 may be leading edge (doubably) on launch but in 2 years they are gonna be behind the times. There is a place for console gaming and it's successful for what it is, but with the advent of mobile gaming, they are gonna have to change the formula of waiting 7 years between refreshes.
 

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PC's will always be more powerful (It takes a lot of time to shrink something down).

It will always have it's place like others have listed (especially with gaming), but it requires companies to not cut corners like dell did with many of their systems.

For example, charging $1000 for a computer and having it stuck with some intel onboard crap and a 300 watt power supply.

or ruining their reputation further by buying alienware and continuing their ripoff habits. it is almost like if a company like steam/ valve kept everything the same except the adding of a nazi squad to go and spread torment and racism. even if the steam service it's self stays the same, it will likely begin to do poorly due to their other unpopular actions.

Buying alienware is like tying a a large cinderblock to your testicles and then going swimming, things just wont turn out well.
 

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Tons of people are still buying PC's. Sure, the people who traditionally bought Dells as a home computer are buying way less. And companies (mine is the only one I can think of) went Dell for a few years, then we went right back to HP. We have a lot more problems with the Dells. Having a crappy build quality--dead PSUs and shitty capicitors--that's why our company switched. Sure, I expect the most problems with the lowest end computers, but they need and could have a rock solid bottom line. Better quality PSU's and motherboard components would be all they needed to fix to keep our company. But HP seems to to a slightly better low end PC for the workspace. Slightly worse reliability could easily cost millions of dollars in potential loss for our company. Always using a well built motherboard with a well built PSU for every level of platform is really what they should focus on. Reliability is always more important than speed. The problem is that tech buyers look at dollars and speed, then they realize in the end that there are hidden aspects of quality that are vital to stability, and that HP often does slightly better than Dell in those aspects (in the low end computer anyway).
 

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It's called a poison pill. A public company will do something drastic when it doesn't want to be taken over by a certain party (Carl Icahn). By saying that the PC industry is dead, Dell and his private equity takeover buddies are making an argument for making Dell a public company. Icahn and his buddies are pushing to keep Dell public with a significant ownership interest from them.

If Icahn takes control, Dell won't be able to make drastic moves to reinvent itself as a post-PC company. Michael Dell will probably have a restraining order and after Icahn has made his billions, the company will burn to the grouond. If the white knight Michael Dell and his friends take over, you won't see what Dell is doing each quarter, and after disappearing for a while, the company will reappear as an awesome new tech firm. That's the idea here.
 

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If pc manufacturers and manufacturers of hardware fear the death of pc then it's probably in their best interest to start funding pc games. Intel, AMD, Dell, HP, etc. should have a mutual fund which goes to funding several AAA games every year to distinguish it from the console version such as hi-res textures, physics, dx11, etc. Game developers are not going to spend extra time and money to make a pc version that's drastically different from the console version. And we've seen in the past that games sell hardware. Furthermore, it wouldn't even be that expensive considering the billions of dollars that these companies place in R&D and advertisements.
 

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Yes, because I can connect three monitors and do 3d modelling on my smartphone and/or tablet.

Analysts don't know what they are talking about. Some day, when they can pack the equivalent of two Nvidia 690s and 12 high-output 4GHz + processor cores into a handheld device that can also hold 4TB of data (because I don't want my personal information and personal data on the cloud), that can wirelessly connect to multiple monitors and peripherals that are NOT BATTERY OPERATED (tired of changing batteries all the time)...maybe...just maybe we will have replaced the desktop PC.

Think about this though, do you really want someone with one device to rule them all? Do you know how much porn people would be carrying around in their pockets...do you really want that? Not to mention productivity would drop close to zero at workplaces because people would have all of their games, applications, photos, videos, etc etc in their pocket.

What about identity theft? Forget stealing wallets that contain some basic information and credit cards, steal their device and you now become whoever that device belongs to with great ease.

Good luck killing off the Desktop PC. There will always be a need for it, it will just evolve and change a bit.
 

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Up until the tablet/smartphone, most people used desktops as toys. Browsing the internet, playing low end games, watching videos, listening to music, and email are all things you can do easily without a desktop or laptop. People are using tablets the same way they've been using desktops, they just finally got the proper form factor with which to do it. There were people bragging about how fast of a processor they got, and how much memory they had, when all they were doing was playing spades online. Kind of like buying a hotrod for your 100 mile round trip commute to work. Only exception is, the hotrod will attract more ladies than a desktop will.
 
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