Dell Motherboard in a New Case?

[rime360]

Hey guys, I'm having some issues and I was hoping I'd find some help here. I have a Dell Inspiron 580 and I am looking at a new case to fit my new PSU and GPU in. The only problem is that I'm not sure if Dell's motherboards can be moved to other cases because I've read conflicting things. Some people say they can and some say they probably can't. My motherboard is a micro ATX and I'm looking at an ATX Mid tower case.



http://gyazo.com/cc2c5778baaa1b79c2e3b19ff2ff0ec6
Picture of the Cpu-Z report.


http://www.findlaptopdriver.com/specs-dell-oc2kjt/
Motherboards information page.

I'll be purchasing a Cooler Master Elite 430 if the motherboard is movable.

I've read that my current Dell's motherboard requires certain wires that are only in my case. Is this true? You guys think I'll be able to switch cases?

 

[cin19]

The old dell use the BTX format, but the new dell like your Inspiron 580 has the mATX MB so that you can, because the case is ATX Mid Tower.
And one thing is the " Front Panel I O Connectivity", you have to download the guide and manual to find out which is the hdd, power, etc.
Intel Front Panel I O Connectivity Design Guide, go to page 17 to see the detail.
http://docsfiles.com/pdf_front_panel_i_o_connectivity_design_guide.html
Dell service manual. page 38 for front panel connector (#13)
http://www.dell.com/support/Manuals/us/en/19/product/inspiron-580

 

[rime360]

The old dell use the BTX format, but the new dell like your Inspiron 580 has the mATX MB so that you can, because the case is ATX Mid Tower.
And one thing is the " Front Panel I O Connectivity", you have to download the guide and manual to find out which is the hdd, power, etc.
Intel Front Panel I O Connectivity Design Guide, go to page 17 to see the detail.
http://docsfiles.com/pdf_front_panel_i_o_connectivity_design_guide.html
Dell service manual. page 38 for front panel connector (#13)
http://www.dell.com/support/Manuals/us/en/19/product/inspiron-580

Thankyou so much, you're a life saver.

 

[markwp]

Dell boards are a genuine PITA. Some of the m/b holes will line up with micro atx and some won't. There will also be a couple of areas that are unsupported and may flex down enough to contact the case.

I've made swaps like this before, but you have to be very careful to get the m/b support you need and to guard against m/b sag. When I did it, I insulated the bottom of the m/b with felt washers (like you would put under a couch) in the unsupported areas.

As far as odd ball wires, in looking at the layout of the board in the manual, I don't see anything unusual, but if your Dell has a single front panel connector that combines all the stuff into one, you may have to consult the manual to figure out which pins are which. IIRC, the elite uses either single pin or dual pin connectors for the power on, reset, hdd lite and power lite. Compare the those leads with the leads coming from the front panel of the dell case. Check the service manual (HERE).

Also, HERE is a link to a prior thread with the same wiring question.

Mark

 

[rime360]

Dell boards are a genuine PITA. Some of the m/b holes will line up with micro atx and some won't. There will also be a couple of areas that are unsupported and may flex down enough to contact the case.

I've made swaps like this before, but you have to be very careful to get the m/b support you need and to guard against m/b sag. When I did it, I insulated the bottom of the m/b with felt washers (like you would put under a couch) in the unsupported areas.

As far as odd ball wires, in looking at the layout of the board in the manual, I don't see anything unusual, but if your Dell has a single front panel connector that combines all the stuff into one, you may have to consult the manual to figure out which pins are which. IIRC, the elite uses either single pin or dual pin connectors for the power on, reset, hdd lite and power lite. Compare the those leads with the leads coming from the front panel of the dell case. Check the service manual (HERE).

Also, HERE is a link to a prior thread with the same wiring question.

Mark

Well, I'm not exactly too advanced in the computer department. Can you explain these things to me like I'm an idiot?
What's a Motherboard Sag. stand for?
Also, I have some pictures of the motherboard for you guys (Sorry about all the dust)

http://imgur.com/a/uF2fs (Album, check out all the pics. I think the 3rd picture gives you the best view though, at the top right is where the wiring from the power button is and all that. There is one multicolored wire and there are a couple separate ones.)

Thankyou for the help so far, I really appreciate it.
Also, sorry for the late response. Was doing some more research, checking out that thread and reading the service manual stuff.

 

[markwp]

Motherboard sag is not a "techinical term". All I meant was, for instance, if a portion of your m/b was not properly supported by a standoff (holes didn't line up, etc.), there is a possibility that the weight of an aftermarket cooler or a larger gpu could cause the m/b to bend (sag).

 

[rime360]

Motherboard sag is not a "techinical term". All I meant was, for instance, if a portion of your m/b was not properly supported by a standoff (holes didn't line up, etc.), there is a possibility that the weight of an aftermarket cooler or a larger gpu could cause the m/b to bend (sag).

Oh okay haha, sorry about that.
If the motherboard ends up not fitting could you guys recommend me a Micro ATX motherboard and processor?
I was looking at these just in case mine ends up not fitting.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130655&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116782&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

 

[cin19]

If you are closed to microcenter, then you can get the good deal for the CPU and MB, like Intel Core i5-4570 for $160, ASRock H87M Pro4 LGA 1150 Intel H87 for $90. But if you get this new i5 (4th gen.) then make sure you have the PSU that is compitable with New intel CPU.

Otherwise those parts you choosed are fine, or take this MB- GIGABYTE GA-B75M-D3H http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128555.

 

[rime360]

If you are closed to microcenter, then you can get the good deal for the CPU and MB, like Intel Core i5-4570 for $160, ASRock H87M Pro4 LGA 1150 Intel H87 for $90. But if you get this new i5 (4th gen.) then make sure you have the PSU that is compitable with New intel CPU.

Otherwise those parts you choosed are fine, or take this MB- GIGABYTE GA-B75M-D3H http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128555.

This is the PSU I have. I have no idea how to check if it's compatible with a CPU.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171054

 

[cin19]

Here is the list. http://www.coolermaster.com/company/newsDetail-M1305240001400b-20130524.html

 

[rime360]

Here is the list. http://www.coolermaster.com/company/newsDetail-M1305240001400b-20130524.html

Thankyou. Mines on that list.
Also, will this be of any use to me? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812706007
The reason I ask this is because my current PSU uses a plug with no pins sticking out while my new one does like in the picture. Will this make the PSU work?

 

[cin19]

The one you show here, it is either for extending the power cable or the adapter for 24-pin power supply to 20-pin motherboard. Most of new MB have the standard 24-pin connector, so you don't need it but if the cable has problem for reaching the 24-pin connector.

 

[rime360]

The one you show here, it is either for extending the power cable or the adapter for 24-pin power supply to 20-pin motherboard. Most of new MB have the standard 24-pin connector, so you don't need it but if the cable has problem for reaching the 24-pin connector.

Alright, because when I was in my old case; I tried to plug in the PSU into my crappy dell motherboard and I got an orange light on the motherboard and it wouldn't turn on. When I plugged in my old crap PSU, the computer would turn on, so I was wondering if that cable would help.

 

[Kisianik]

You have standard PSU, have you plugged also 4 pin? Or just 24 (or 20+4).
Regarding I&O panel connectors - Dell uses proprietary ones in many models! So watch out.

 

[rime360]

You have standard PSU, have you plugged also 4 pin? Or just 24 (or 20+4).
Regarding I&O panel connectors - Dell uses proprietary ones in many models! So watch out.

Yeah I made sure. The computer is also an inspiron 580 if that matters. I'm honestly expecting the worst, and I'm prepared to order a new motherboard+CPU.

Considering everything goes as planned and it doesn't work, would all of these parts work together fine?

CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116782&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125443

Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125443

PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171054

Will all of these things work together fine in a MicroATX case? I am 99% sure they will, but want to make sure with some more experienced people so I don't get shafted for the 10th time.

 

[rime360]

Dell boards are a genuine PITA. Some of the m/b holes will line up with micro atx and some won't. There will also be a couple of areas that are unsupported and may flex down enough to contact the case.

I've made swaps like this before, but you have to be very careful to get the m/b support you need and to guard against m/b sag. When I did it, I insulated the bottom of the m/b with felt washers (like you would put under a couch) in the unsupported areas.

As far as odd ball wires, in looking at the layout of the board in the manual, I don't see anything unusual, but if your Dell has a single front panel connector that combines all the stuff into one, you may have to consult the manual to figure out which pins are which. IIRC, the elite uses either single pin or dual pin connectors for the power on, reset, hdd lite and power lite. Compare the those leads with the leads coming from the front panel of the dell case. Check the service manual (HERE).

Also, HERE is a link to a prior thread with the same wiring question.

Mark

Motherboard sag is not a "techinical term". All I meant was, for instance, if a portion of your m/b was not properly supported by a standoff (holes didn't line up, etc.), there is a possibility that the weight of an aftermarket cooler or a larger gpu could cause the m/b to bend (sag).

That link really worked well with the LED, Power reset and all that. I got it working in the new case, it fit in perfectly and has no issues at all. Thankyou guys for the help!