Dell Precision T3500

[ehsanelahi]

Please suggest me that w3580 is still respectable now a days for gaming purpose? Will it be sufficient for gaming.
As for Ram I want to change to non ecc ram, because my Precisions have ECC RAM, I have to change to non-ECC if W3580 will work with Non Ecc Ram, but the latency of non-ECC is much better. ECC is usually CAS 13 and non-ECC can be CAS 9.

 

[bambiboom]

My old friend ehsanelahi,

The W3580 is quite good:

http://ark.intel.com/products/39723/Intel-Xeon-Processor-W3580-8M-Cache-3_33-GHz-6_40-GTs-Intel-QPI

> and on Passmark is ranked No. 209 with an average CPU score of 6676. There is a T3500 on Passmark Perofrmance Test with a GeForce 630 12GB RAM, and a Crucial 512GB MX100 SSD:

Rating = 2576.3 / CPU =6402 / 2D=652 / 3D= 773, Memory= 1888, Disk =2385

- and sorted by CPU score, the w3580 has the highest score fro a quad core.

The top rated T3500 uses the W3690 3.47 /3.6GHz, 6-core , 12GB RAM, a GTX970 and Samsung 840 Evo:
Rating = 3729 / CPU =9390 / 2D=643 / 3D= 8462, Memory= 1865, Disk =2389

You can see what difference a CPU and GPU can make as the Memory and Disk scores are quite similar.

So, if you'd like a quad- core T3500 for gaming, the W3580 is the best.

And here is a list of the best 3D scores fo the T3500:

GTX 970__ 8462 (3D score)
GTX 760__ 5188
GTX 670__ 5021
GTX 660ti__ 4917
GTX 570__ 4604
Radeon R9 270X_ 4497
GTX 570 __ 4096

It appears that the W3580 with one of the above video cards would give you the best chance of a good gaming experience with a T3500. A Dell Precision is a good choice for gaming as they have good disk subsystems, generous power supplies, and are made to be reliable under conditions of long period, full-intensity running.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

HP z420 (2014) > Xeon E5-1620 quad core @ 3.6 / 3.8GHz > 24GB DDR3 ECC 1600 RAM > Quadro K2200 (4GB)> Samsung 840 SSD 250GB /Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > AE3000 USB WiFi > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H 2560 X 1440 > Windows 7 Ultimate 64 >
[ Passmark Rating = 4032 > CPU= 9247 / 2D= 821 / 3D=3263 / Mem= 2584 / Disk= 2470]

Dell Precision T5400 (2008) > 2X Xeon X5460 quad core @3.16GHz > 16GB DDR2 667 ECC> Quadro FX 4800 (1.5GB) > WD RE4 500GB / Seagate Barracuda 500GB > M-Audio 2496 Sound Card / Linksys WMP600N WiFi > HP 2711X, 27" 1920 X 1080 and and Dell 19" LCD > Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit >
[ Passmark system Rating = 1859, CPU = 8528 / 2D= 512 / 3D=1097]

Dell Precision 390 (2006): Xeon X3230 quad-core @ 2.67GHz > 8 GB DDR2 667 ECC > Firepro V4900 (1GB) > 2X WD 320GB >Linksys WMP600N WiFi Dell 24" > 1920 X 1200 > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit [ Passmark system rating = 1458, CPU = 3699 / 2D= 431 / 3D=1350 / Mem= 885 / Disk=552]

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[ehsanelahi]

My old friend ehsanelahi,

The W3580 is quite good:

http://ark.intel.com/products/39723/Intel-Xeon-Processor-W3580-8M-Cache-3_33-GHz-6_40-GTs-Intel-QPI

> and on Passmark is ranked No. 209 with an average CPU score of 6676. There is a T3500 on Passmark Perofrmance Test with a GeForce 630 12GB RAM, and a Crucial 512GB MX100 SSD:

Rating = 2576.3 / CPU =6402 / 2D=652 / 3D= 773, Memory= 1888, Disk =2385

- and sorted by CPU score, the w3580 has the highest score fro a quad core.

The top rated T3500 uses the W3690 3.47 /3.6GHz, 6-core , 12GB RAM, a GTX970 and Samsung 840 Evo:
Rating = 3729 / CPU =9390 / 2D=643 / 3D= 8462, Memory= 1865, Disk =2389

You can see what difference a CPU and GPU can make as the Memory and Disk scores are quite similar.

So, if you'd like a quad- core T3500 for gaming, the W3580 is the best.

And here is a list of the best 3D scores fo the T3500:

GTX 970__ 8462 (3D score)
GTX 760__ 5188
GTX 670__ 5021
GTX 660ti__ 4917
GTX 570__ 4604
Radeon R9 270X_ 4497
GTX 570 __ 4096

It appears that the W3580 with one of the above video cards would give you the best chance of a good gaming experience with a T3500. A Dell Precision is a good choice for gaming as they have good disk subsystems, generous power supplies, and are made to be reliable under conditions of long period, full-intensity running.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

HP z420 (2014) > Xeon E5-1620 quad core @ 3.6 / 3.8GHz > 24GB DDR3 ECC 1600 RAM > Quadro K2200 (4GB)> Samsung 840 SSD 250GB /Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > AE3000 USB WiFi > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H 2560 X 1440 > Windows 7 Ultimate 64 >
[ Passmark Rating = 4032 > CPU= 9247 / 2D= 821 / 3D=3263 / Mem= 2584 / Disk= 2470]

Dell Precision T5400 (2008) > 2X Xeon X5460 quad core @3.16GHz > 16GB DDR2 667 ECC> Quadro FX 4800 (1.5GB) > WD RE4 500GB / Seagate Barracuda 500GB > M-Audio 2496 Sound Card / Linksys WMP600N WiFi > HP 2711X, 27" 1920 X 1080 and and Dell 19" LCD > Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit >
[ Passmark system Rating = 1859, CPU = 8528 / 2D= 512 / 3D=1097]

Dell Precision 390 (2006): Xeon X3230 quad-core @ 2.67GHz > 8 GB DDR2 667 ECC > Firepro V4900 (1GB) > 2X WD 320GB >Linksys WMP600N WiFi Dell 24" > 1920 X 1200 > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit [ Passmark system rating = 1458, CPU = 3699 / 2D= 431 / 3D=1350 / Mem= 885 / Disk=552]

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Bambiboom:
Thanks for help but I am still wondering that Non Ecc Ram will work with W3580? And what memory module will best for me, now I have 6GB ECC 2GB x 3. And also suggest me, what is the best graphic card according to Dell Precision T3500 PSU, because I has only one 6 pin.

 

[bambiboom]

ehsanelahi,

As mentioned, I believe (but you might check another source) that non-ECC will not physically fit into the ECC RAM slot. The ECC module has the gap in the pins in a different place. It was possible to order a non-ECC or ECC version but I think that iIf your T3500 has ECC, the non-ECC will not fit.

As for RAM the T3500 can use up to 24GB of 1333. This is triple channel, meaning you must have everything in sets of 3 of the same size and all must be the same speed. You may have 1GB, 2GB and 4GB but it would have to be 3X 3X1GB + 3X2GB or 3X2GB+ 6X4GB that kind of thing. The placement is also important if there are different sizes- follow the placement instructions in the user manual.

As for the GPU, the newer the better as far as power goes. One of the best for cost / performance would be the GTX 750ti which are only 60W and the 525W PSU of a T3500 should be fine. I'm quite sure they have a 6-pin molex power connector, but it's not necessary for a 750ti. A PCIe x16 slot will power up to 75W without an additional connector.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

 

[ehsanelahi]

ehsanelahi,

As mentioned, I believe (but you might check another source) that non-ECC will not physically fit into the ECC RAM slot. The ECC module has the gap in the pins in a different place. It was possible to order a non-ECC or ECC version but I think that iIf your T3500 has ECC, the non-ECC will not fit.

As for RAM the T3500 can use up to 24GB of 1333. This is triple channel, meaning you must have everything in sets of 3 of the same size and all must be the same speed. You may have 1GB, 2GB and 4GB but it would have to be 3X 3X1GB + 3X2GB or 3X2GB+ 6X4GB that kind of thing. The placement is also important if there are different sizes- follow the placement instructions in the user manual.

As for the GPU, the newer the better as far as power goes. One of the best for cost / performance would be the GTX 750ti which are only 60W and the 525W PSU of a T3500 should be fine. I'm quite sure they have a 6-pin molex power connector, but it's not necessary for a 750ti. A PCIe x16 slot will power up to 75W without an additional connector.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

Sorry My Friend for the late reply:
Because my system's hdd had blown, therefore i can't contact you, as for the ram issue, as you mentioned above that ECC module has the gap in the pins in a different place and the non-ECC will not fit.
If we look at the dell precision T3500 technical guide, t3500 takes both kinds of ram i.e ECC and Non ECC. Then it will works in dell t3500? (Kingston HyperX FURY Memory Blue 4GB Module - DDR3 1866MHz CL10 240-Pin DIMM HX318C10F/4)
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And also suggest me that sapphire r7 265 is good for dell t3500 according its PSU i.e 525W with one 6 pin only.

 

[bambiboom]

ehsanelahi,

Yes, the T3500 may have either ECC or non-ECC RAM, but as the slots are different, you must have the proper motherboard for your choice. So, is you are certain that you want to use non-ecc, then make certain that the T3500 you are buying is using non-ecc as you can't change it.

I had a look at reviews of the Radeon R7 265 and it appears to be bahoot acha- very good- faster than GTX 660 but less expensive. I like that it is 256-bit and think it's a very good value.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

PS: To replace my Precision T5400, I have bought a Precision T5500- in good condition very cheaply- and now have a Xeon X5680 CPU (six -core 3.33 / 3.6GHZ), 24 GB RAM, a 300GB 15,000RPM SAS drive and will add my old Quadro 4000 and Samsung 840 250GB SSD. Also, since we last wrote, I have chaged my single HP 2711x to 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H monitors- 2560 X 1440- very nice!

 

[ehsanelahi]

ehsanelahi,

Yes, the T3500 may have either ECC or non-ECC RAM, but as the slots are different, you must have the proper motherboard for your choice. So, is you are certain that you want to use non-ecc, then make certain that the T3500 you are buying is using non-ecc as you can't change it.

I had a look at reviews of the Radeon R7 265 and it appears to be bahoot acha- very good- faster than GTX 660 but less expensive. I like that it is 256-bit and think it's a very good value.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

PS: To replace my Precision T5400, I have bought a Precision T5500- in good condition very cheaply- and now have a Xeon X5680 CPU (six -core 3.33 / 3.6GHZ), 24 GB RAM, a 300GB 15,000RPM SAS drive and will add my old Quadro 4000 and Samsung 840 250GB SSD. Also, since we last wrote, I have chaged my single HP 2711x to 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H monitors- 2560 X 1440- very nice!

Bohat Acha My Friend Bambiboom
It means that dell t3500 comes in two different motherboard with two different Dimm slots i.e ecc and non.ecc. Now I am own this Dell t3500 PC, but I don't know what kind of motherboard in it, but I have confirmed that it takes the both kinds of Ram i.e ECC and NoN ECC, I have two different Ram Module in that PC i.e PC3-8500 ecc and PC3-10600 non ecc, I have checked with pass mark manufactured software named "RaMMon", therefore I raised this question because I want to upgrade more memory with only one same module i.e pc3 12800 unbuffered non ecc at 1600 MHz, SPD 1333. There are few links, you can confirm from these links, whether it is compatible or not?
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Please also check it deeply that dell t3500 can support?
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I like Corsair Vengeance 4GB DDR3 because its has CL 9 and the others two have CL 10 (Kingston HyperX FURY Memory Blue 4GB Module) and CL 11 (Kingston 4GB).


As you mentioned above, that dell T3500 PSU has definitely a 4 pin molex connector, but I don't know how many voltage come in the 4 pin molex to Pci express 6 pin connector, usually 6 pin pci express connector has 75w. Any danger if I use 4 pin molex to 6 pin pci express connector for GTX 760 etc? The image like this:
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[ehsanelahi]

Best answer selected by Bambiboom. Thanks for your kind assistance and tomshardware forum.