Question Desktop vs Laptop GPU for 2k Monitor

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My current desktop is old, but it does the job ( i7 3770k/R9 290/8GB DDR3 1866/ 1080p 24"). I'm looking at getting a laptop to replace it that has a Ryzen 7 4800H and either a GTX 1650 Ti or an RX 5500M, and I'm wondering if they could handle an external display (not extended) 2k 24" or 27" monitor. The uses will be browsing, watching movies, and 1080p video editing Adobe Premier Pro. I will not be editing 2k videos, I will just be utilizing the extra screen real estate of a 2k screen. On paper the 4800H/GTX 1650 Ti has similar performance to my PC, but this is with the stock 15.6" 1080p laptop monitor. It's my understanding that better GPU's are directly correlated to your ability to run larger/multiple displays. I have two questions:

1) Could a GTX 1650 Ti mobile handle a 2k monitor for doing video editing on? If not, what about a 1080p monitor?

2) Does it matter what size the screen is if the resolution is the same? If a 15.6", 24" and 40" TV all output at 1080p, are they all equally demanding as far as the GPU is concerned?
 
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I'm tagging some people who seem to have knowledge with Adobe Premier / video editing to see what they think. @tennis2 @bmockeg @dorsai @mitch074

I'm thinking of getting either the MSI Bravo 15 or the Lenovo Legion 5 which have a Ryzen 7 4800H. Other than that there is the ASUS Zephyrus G14 AMD, which is about $500 more than the Lenovo, has a 4900HS which is about 13%~ faster than the 4800H, and an RTX 2060 Max-Q, which is like 70%~ faster than the GTX 1650 Ti. Since I wont be using much accelerated graphics I don't think a 2060 Max-Q is needed, unless I need it for a 27" 2k screen. Apparently memory is important for video editing so instead of getting the 16GB version should I get the cheaper 8GB version and replace it with 32GB or 64GB DDR4 3200?
 

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I've had Lenovo laptops in the past for work and have found them to be reliable. Though the cooling setup on the MSI one looks solid. Regardless of which you pick I would highly recommend a power ventilated stand for the laptop if you're going to be pushing long file edits...it will make a huge difference in temps. As far as memory it's the more the better...I would make sure the new laptop will handle the memory modules if you plan to upgrade yourself.
 

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The Legion 5 outperforms the ASUS TUF 15 according to this video: View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30fD7hycD24
CPU 82 degrees after 1 hour of GTA V compared to 105
For the MSI Bravo, for the 17" version (not the 15" I want) CPU gets up to 90-94 degrees stress test, 84 for "gaming" according to this: View: https://youtu.be/dv2zsFJ_kxg?t=223 so they both seem similar.
The Legion is apparently "whisper quiet" while the Bravo seems louder overall, but it is $300 cheaper. Putting some aftermarket thermal paste in it might help a few degrees. I've heard a laptop stand doesn't actually do much, at most a few degrees at max settings. What you need to do is just make sure it's on a flat surface. Also apparently if you use an external monitor and leave it right side up and closed, temperatures decrease significantly. That's why I want to know if these laptops can handle a 2k monitor. Here's the source: https://www.ultrabookreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/perf-temps-gaming-external-farcry5-turbo-1080p-onair.png Scroll to "Gaming on an external monitor" (Asus Zephyrus G14)
When using an external monitor and closing the lid there is "limited CPU power allocation and full-power GPU" yet it is still able to produce impressive clock speeds: https://www.ultrabookreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/perf-temps-gaming-external-farcry5-turbo-1080p-onair.png

I'm torn between:
MSI Bravo 15 4800H / 240 nits 45% NTSC 120hz / 51 Whr / 8GB / Moderately loud / RX 5500M
Lenovo Legion 5 4800H / 300 nits sRGB 100% 144hz / 80Whr / 8GB / Reasonably quiet / GTX 1650 Ti (can benefit from acceleration in adobe)
Asus Zephyrus G14 4900HS / 323 nits sRGB 100% 120hz / 76 Whr / 16GB / RTX 2060 Max-Q
The Lenovo is $300 more than the MSI, and the Asus is $300 more than the Lenovo. The Lenovo has a GTX would be useful in Adobe, however I'm not sure if the RTX 2060 Max-Q is overkill for my needs. I will not be doing any gaming, this is purely for video editing. I'd rather spend $300 on getting 64GB of RAM, but I'm wondering is 64GB ram better than let's say 16GB 3200 stock + RTX 2060 Max-Q? How useful really is ram?
 
The Legion 5 outperforms the ASUS TUF 15 according to this video: View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30fD7hycD24
CPU 82 degrees after 1 hour of GTA V compared to 105
For the MSI Bravo, for the 17" version (not the 15" I want) CPU gets up to 90-94 degrees stress test, 84 for "gaming" according to this: View: https://youtu.be/dv2zsFJ_kxg?t=223 so they both seem similar.
The Legion is apparently "whisper quiet" while the Bravo seems louder overall, but it is $300 cheaper. Putting some aftermarket thermal paste in it might help a few degrees. I've heard a laptop stand doesn't actually do much, at most a few degrees at max settings. What you need to do is just make sure it's on a flat surface. Also apparently if you use an external monitor and leave it right side up and closed, temperatures decrease significantly. That's why I want to know if these laptops can handle a 2k monitor. Here's the source: https://www.ultrabookreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/perf-temps-gaming-external-farcry5-turbo-1080p-onair.png Scroll to "Gaming on an external monitor" (Asus Zephyrus G14)
When using an external monitor and closing the lid there is "limited CPU power allocation and full-power GPU" yet it is still able to produce impressive clock speeds: https://www.ultrabookreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/perf-temps-gaming-external-farcry5-turbo-1080p-onair.png

I'm torn between:
MSI Bravo 15 4800H / 240 nits 45% NTSC 120hz / 51 Whr / 8GB / Moderately loud / RX 5500M
Lenovo Legion 5 4800H / 300 nits sRGB 100% 144hz / 80Whr / 8GB / Reasonably quiet / GTX 1650 Ti (can benefit from acceleration in adobe)
Asus Zephyrus G14 4900HS / 323 nits sRGB 100% 120hz / 76 Whr / 16GB / RTX 2060 Max-Q
The Lenovo is $300 more than the MSI, and the Asus is $300 more than the Lenovo. The Lenovo has a GTX would be useful in Adobe, however I'm not sure if the RTX 2060 Max-Q is overkill for my needs. I will not be doing any gaming, this is purely for video editing. I'd rather spend $300 on getting 64GB of RAM, but I'm wondering is 64GB ram better than let's say 16GB 3200 stock + RTX 2060 Max-Q? How useful really is ram?
Resolution of the monitor doesn’t matter for using adobe, what matters is the resolution of the video you are editing. Higher resolution video will be more taxing. As for every day use, higher resolution really wont be an issue.
 

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