"Detecting IDE Drives" hang up when no IDE drives connected

[glbrogdon444]

Greetings,

I just installed anew PSU (Corsair HX1050) because I learned my old PSU (Corsair HT750) wasn't making enough juice to run my system.

Now, my machine is hanging on boot at "detecting IDE drives."

The only IDE device on the machine is a DVD drive, so I disconnected it to see if the machine would boot. No luck.

I've reset the CMOS, and I'm still having the same problem. Any ideas?

Asus M3N-HT Deluxe, nForce 780 a SLI
Asus GeForce GTX 650 TI
Corsair Professional HX1050 supply
AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 Ghz processor
8 gigs Corsair XMS2 DDR2

 

[4745454b]

? A 500W PSU can power that machine.

As for boot problem have you tried the basic boot problem steps?

 

[glbrogdon444]

? A 500W PSU can power that machine.

As for boot problem have you tried the basic boot problem steps?

That's what I thought when I built it, but according to the Asus psu calculator, 750 watt is the recommended minimum for my exact build. I bought the 1050 watt because a few weeks ago I started getting a reboot loop at the window's starting screen after a weird crash after installing a new nvidia driver.

I bought this new psu just to test to see if the gpu was indeed fried.

All I did was swap the psus yesterday, and instead of a reboot loop at the windows splash screen, I can't even get the drives to register.

I have checked all the connections three times, removed the CMOS battery to reset the bios (I can't get into bios at boot), double checked all my SATA drives and I can't figure out the issue.

Could a bad gpu be the cause of all these problems?

 

[drtweak]

Have you tired disabling the IDE controller in the BIOS? Just to try it out. Try that and see if its boots. Also if you can if all you have is a single DVD on the IDE see if its master or slave. Then see if you can disable the other in the bios. Like if its a Primary master try to tell it the Primary Slave is Disabled to prevent it trying to even look for it. Have had this issue before with IDE drives and Floppy drives. Also in almost every case with a DVD/CD IDE drive you have 3 settings for the jumper. Master Slave and Cable Select. If you remove the jumper it should be an automatic Slave. now on Western Digital IDE Drives if you set it to the master setting it means there is a slave and if its the only one on the IDE channel then it needs to be removed completely. Its odd. But try disabling the whole controller first then just disable the oppsite of what the DVD drive is.

 

[glbrogdon444]

Have you tired disabling the IDE controller in the BIOS? Just to try it out. Try that and see if its boots. Also if you can if all you have is a single DVD on the IDE see if its master or slave. Then see if you can disable the other in the bios. Like if its a Primary master try to tell it the Primary Slave is Disabled to prevent it trying to even look for it. Have had this issue before with IDE drives and Floppy drives. Also in almost every case with a DVD/CD IDE drive you have 3 settings for the jumper. Master Slave and Cable Select. If you remove the jumper it should be an automatic Slave. now on Western Digital IDE Drives if you set it to the master setting it means there is a slave and if its the only one on the IDE channel then it needs to be removed completely. Its odd. But try disabling the whole controller first then just disable the oppsite of what the DVD drive is.

One of the core problems is my computer hangs before IDE drives are detected. I can't even get to bios. If I press delete at post it says "entering setup" hangs for a bit and reboots. I've tried all sorts of physical configurations with my IDE DVD drive -- and I've even removed it altogether. Even with zero IDE drives connected, I'm still hanging.

 

[4745454b]

The GTX650TI has only one PCIe 6pin plug, so the most power it can draw is 150W. The x4 CPU OC'd would be perhaps up to 200W. With the rest of the system you are looking at 400W tops. Probably much less then that while gaming. I don't know what settings you put into the calculator. But there is no way you need a 1050 or 750W either.

As I said in my first post, I'd do all the normal test stuff. One drive only, one stick of ram, onboard GPU if you have one, etc. Even out of the case if you need to.

 

[glbrogdon444]

The GTX650TI has only one PCIe 6pin plug, so the most power it can draw is 150W. The x4 CPU OC'd would be perhaps up to 200W. With the rest of the system you are looking at 400W tops. Probably much less then that while gaming. I don't know what settings you put into the calculator. But there is no way you need a 1050 or 750W either.

As I said in my first post, I'd do all the normal test stuff. One drive only, one stick of ram, onboard GPU if you have one, etc. Even out of the case if you need to.

The wattage calculator is strange to me too. I thought I was way over what I needed with the 750 watt. I'm going to go through the boot tests tonight, I just need to pick up a VGA cable for my onboard video.

Assuming I start up with no PCI cards, one stick of RAM and onboard video and get the same problem, is the likely issue the mobo?

 

[drtweak]

Sounds like it was freezing at the IDE Detection but if its freezing before that then it might be something else. Try what 4745454b said and just have the Basics what you need. I know my Old Core2Quad and Asus P5N-D setup does freeze up before it even gets to the drives. Like right after it list the CPU and Memory but usually a restart will fix it. Sounds like there may be an attached device that it is having issues talking to everything else. Use onboard video if you got it, unplug all hard drives, and IDE Devices, and all other card (Video, Wifi, Ect) just with those. If it get past that great! then try adding things one at a time and see what is freezes at. Also sometimes all things need is to be pulled and re-seated. You'll be suprised how often that alone fixes boot up issues like this.

 

[4745454b]

It could be a bad/dead controller on the board, but I'm still hoping its a drive. Might want to try booting it with no drives hooked up.

 

[glbrogdon444]

It could be a bad/dead controller on the board, but I'm still hoping its a drive. Might want to try booting it with no drives hooked up.

it's a mad world. I removed the 650 ti card, plugged into onboard graphics -- leaving everything else in -- and I had a perfect boot.

I'm going to try this GPU in a friend's machine this weekend to confirm whether it's fried. I'm wondering though if the issue could by my mobo's PCI-E slots.

 

[4745454b]

Try a known working card in your computer. If it works, not the slots. Odd that its a GPU, I didn't see that coming.

 

[drtweak]

Yea usually when something is up with the graphics card you won't even see the Post screen.