did i do something wrong ?

[pro2legendary]

i just installed my new gpu and plugged in the 8 pin connector screwed in the screws and mounted it on the mother board till i heard the click but but im worried i did something wrong for some reason.. i un installed old drivers restarted and downloaded new ones but im getting weird performance levels eg.. on fallout 4 maxed out 60 fps 59-60 i cant find any way to find v sync to find out if its on or not . gta v maxed out to the max 1080p getting 55-69 fps not stable thats on normal mode but on oc mode my 1070 gets more fps obvi but still it drops below 60 on 1080 maxed out is that normal ? and on black ops 3 maxed out 1080p i get frame drops ???? 57 one time went down as 47 the gpu isnt under that much load i think 😀 i had it on gaming mode which is balanced when i played bo3 so.. did i install the gpu wrong or is that normal cause they gpu is new and drivers are still coming out ?

 

[pro2legendary]

its my first time ever installing a gpu.. before the 1070 i had a 780 so ;D

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

Sounds like the card is working just fine. Not having the performance you expected is not the same as malfunctioning.

Might help if you list the rest of the specs for your computer, as those can play a major role in how much performance you see from your graphics card.

 

[pro2legendary]

Sounds like the card is working just fine. Not having the performance you expected is not the same as malfunctioning.

Might help if you list the rest of the specs for your computer, as those can play a major role in how much performance you see from your graphics card.

i7 4790k, 750 watt corsair psu , 240mm cooler master nepton for the cpu, 2 hdd's all 1 terabyte 1 ssd for the system 128 gigs by corsair the ram is 2133 mhz corsair vengence ddr3 2x8 my gpu is 1070 08g strix edition the mother board is a gigabyte z93 hd i think 😀 i checked pc part picker before buying the gpu it said it had no complications

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

Your numbers do seem a bit low for the equipment you list. The numbers you're reporting make the games look like you're running them at a much higher resolution than 1080p, which makes me wonder if you're performing DSR (Dynamic Super Resolution) in your games, which would effectively render at the higher resolution and then scale it back down to 1080p for display.

There is probably a global setting to force VSYNC to on, off, adaptive, etc. in the NVIDIA control panel.

I would start by keeping an eye on both your CPU and GPU temperatures and verifying neither is throttling under heavy load and then trying to force both DSR and VSYNC off globally and see what happens to your numbers.

 

[pro2legendary]

Your numbers do seem a bit low for the equipment you list. The numbers you're reporting make the games look like you're running them at a much higher resolution than 1080p, which makes me wonder if you're performing DSR (Dynamic Super Resolution) in your games, which would effectively render at the higher resolution and then scale it back down to 1080p for display.

There is probably a global setting to force VSYNC to on, off, adaptive, etc. in the NVIDIA control panel.

I would start by keeping an eye on both your CPU and GPU temperatures and verifying neither is throttling under heavy load and then trying to force both DSR and VSYNC off globally and see what happens to your numbers.

your freaking me out 🙁 i always have vsync on cause i dont want unnecessary fps for the card to heat up but when i first launched the games they all were un vsynced cause i wanted to check how high it can go the nvidia program is detecting the gpu and the heats are nearly the same sometimes they arent high tho except when i played overwatch and i put the game off v sync the game's frame buffer wrote "130-190 fps" then ... after the number how do i know if the gpu is thottoling the cpu or the cpu is throttling the gpu

 

[pro2legendary]

Your numbers do seem a bit low for the equipment you list. The numbers you're reporting make the games look like you're running them at a much higher resolution than 1080p, which makes me wonder if you're performing DSR (Dynamic Super Resolution) in your games, which would effectively render at the higher resolution and then scale it back down to 1080p for display.

There is probably a global setting to force VSYNC to on, off, adaptive, etc. in the NVIDIA control panel.

I would start by keeping an eye on both your CPU and GPU temperatures and verifying neither is throttling under heavy load and then trying to force both DSR and VSYNC off globally and see what happens to your numbers.

oh and the render scale is always at 100% so im not adding any thing to it

 

[pro2legendary]

Your numbers do seem a bit low for the equipment you list. The numbers you're reporting make the games look like you're running them at a much higher resolution than 1080p, which makes me wonder if you're performing DSR (Dynamic Super Resolution) in your games, which would effectively render at the higher resolution and then scale it back down to 1080p for display.

There is probably a global setting to force VSYNC to on, off, adaptive, etc. in the NVIDIA control panel.

I would start by keeping an eye on both your CPU and GPU temperatures and verifying neither is throttling under heavy load and then trying to force both DSR and VSYNC off globally and see what happens to your numbers.

please tell me that there is no need to freak out and its just cause of drivers

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

Well, first off, there is no reason to freak out. Nothing is going to self-destruct or cause a nuclear meltdown inside your system, generally speaking. This all sounds like a case of settings, as most situations with differing frame rates among similar hardware tends to be.

I'm afraid I haven't run anything from NVIDIA since a 750 ti, so really am not all that versed with the options in their control panel software anymore.

I would however imagine that, in the NVIDIA control panel, you might look for a button that will return all of the settings to their defaults.

Also, try that in your games as well.

Instead of just cranking things to the max and expecting the best, reset them to defaults and then increase each setting, one at a time, until you find what is tanking your frame rate. Many games have in-game benchmarks which, while not always great, are good enough to gauge what impact the in-game graphic settings will have.

It can be time consuming and a chore to tune each game, but the end results can be very rewarding.

Also, if you have V-Sync on, and your screen is good for 60 Hz refresh rate, 59 - 60 FPS is exactly what you should get, whenever your frame rate is capable of much more, and less when you can't maintain the 60 FPS to match the screen.

If you have something like adaptive V-Sync, you may end up locked to half the FPS of your screen, so a 144 Hz screen would be 72 FPS while a 60 Hz screen would be 30 FPS.

 

[pro2legendary]

Your numbers do seem a bit low for the equipment you list. The numbers you're reporting make the games look like you're running them at a much higher resolution than 1080p, which makes me wonder if you're performing DSR (Dynamic Super Resolution) in your games, which would effectively render at the higher resolution and then scale it back down to 1080p for display.

There is probably a global setting to force VSYNC to on, off, adaptive, etc. in the NVIDIA control panel.

I would start by keeping an eye on both your CPU and GPU temperatures and verifying neither is throttling under heavy load and then trying to force both DSR and VSYNC off globally and see what happens to your numbers.

maybe these 3 have to do with this ? msaa is maxed out and fxaa is maxed out so is msaa shadows

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

Using software like MSI's Afterburner or GPU-Z, you should be able to graph the GPU's clock speeds over time along with temperature. It should be pretty straightforward to see if your GPU's clock rate is ramping from it's boost clock of 1683 down to it's base clock of 1506 MHz in conjunction with a rise in temperature.

Same as with your CPU. If the clock speed is dropping after your CPU reaches a certain temperature, that would be thermal throttling.

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

maybe these 3 have to do with this ? msaa is maxed out and fxaa is maxed out so is msaa shadows

If you change those settings and things improve, you'll have your answer. Each game engine has it's own performance characteristics however, so expect results to be on a per software title basis.

 

[pro2legendary]

Using software like MSI's Afterburner or GPU-Z, you should be able to graph the GPU's clock speeds over time along with temperature. It should be pretty straightforward to see if your GPU's clock rate is ramping from it's boost clock of 1683 down to it's base clock of 1506 MHz in conjunction with a rise in temperature.

Same as with your CPU. If the clock speed is dropping after your CPU reaches a certain temperature, that would be thermal throttling.

i use the asus gpu tweak and the oc mode gets the card to 2050 hz with the temps not above 60 sometimes under but that boosted like 15 fps on gta btw does msaa and fxaa affect heavily on the fps ? and what do they do xD

 

[bigpinkdragon286]

Yes, they heavily impact the amount of work the GPU is having to do in each rendered frame. Those settings can tank frame rates if not well implemented in the game or using a card that doesn't handle them efficiently. The 1070 should be fine as far as handling them, but they come at a cost.

What you should do is tinker with the anti-aliasing settings to find the best bang for your buck. How much performance are you willing to sacrifice for how much gained visual fidelity? There's a point at which the gains are far outweighed by the losses and you're throwing so much GPU horsepower away your game looks worse for the extra quality. A fluid frame rate generally looks better than better single frame renders at a frame rate that is low enough to be bothersome.