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All this talk of "stealing" misunderstands how human progress works. Why did the author not accuse Xerox PARC of stealing the mouse idea from Doug Englebart? PARC clearly did NOT invent the mouse.
Shall we accuse designers of future space propulsion systems or quantum entanglement "transporters" of stealing the ideas from Gene Roddenberry? Imagining that something might be is quite different than making it so.
Steve Jobs and his team at Apple deserve all the credit they get for the difficult work of bringing these ideas to the public. The computer mouse sat in laboratories for nearly two decades before Apple took the leap and made the investment to bring it to widespread use.
I don't think Mr. Jobs is any less intent on changing the world now than he was 30 years ago. I'm curious and hopeful about those changes.
Shall we accuse designers of future space propulsion systems or quantum entanglement "transporters" of stealing the ideas from Gene Roddenberry? Imagining that something might be is quite different than making it so.
Steve Jobs and his team at Apple deserve all the credit they get for the difficult work of bringing these ideas to the public. The computer mouse sat in laboratories for nearly two decades before Apple took the leap and made the investment to bring it to widespread use.
I don't think Mr. Jobs is any less intent on changing the world now than he was 30 years ago. I'm curious and hopeful about those changes.
Steve Jobs DID NOT steal the iPad.
The concept of a tablet computer has been present for over 30 years. It is in the public domain.
Saying Steve Jobs stole the iPad is like saying someone who comes out with their own new tire stole the idea of the wheel from the caveman.
Alan Kay is a genius who thought up of these concepts. However, he had no working model of his vision. He always had mock-ups. But his Dynabook was a cardboard mockup, not a real computer.
Various manufacturers have been trying to create their own "iPad" for decades.
Apple, without Steve Jobs, created the first tablet computer, the Newton, in 1989. This is over 20 years ago.
Bill Gates came out with his own "iPad", called the Tablet PC, 10 years ago.
These all have been commercial failures since few people bought them.
But Steve Jobs is the first to make the tablet computer a commercial success.
The concept of a tablet computer has been present for over 30 years. It is in the public domain.
Saying Steve Jobs stole the iPad is like saying someone who comes out with their own new tire stole the idea of the wheel from the caveman.
Alan Kay is a genius who thought up of these concepts. However, he had no working model of his vision. He always had mock-ups. But his Dynabook was a cardboard mockup, not a real computer.
Various manufacturers have been trying to create their own "iPad" for decades.
Apple, without Steve Jobs, created the first tablet computer, the Newton, in 1989. This is over 20 years ago.
Bill Gates came out with his own "iPad", called the Tablet PC, 10 years ago.
These all have been commercial failures since few people bought them.
But Steve Jobs is the first to make the tablet computer a commercial success.
I am amazed that it took you so long to learn about the Dynabook and Alan Kay.
You need to do a lot more basic computer history reading.
Remember, Picasso "Good artists copy, great artists steal!" and who doesn't. I think Alan Kay is right on the money Xerox Parc and other think tanks were responsible for the thinking and the dreaming but that doesn't get you a product. Where do ideas come from? Lots of them are built on many many other ideas. Steve Jobs recently (and previously) has used the expression of standing on the shoulders of giants. Apple implements the ideas as real life products.
Where did Star Trek get its ideas? (I often say that the show is a documentary from the future)
By the way, you must know about John Sculley's Knowledge Navigator, right? Where did that idea come from? For those who haven't heard of the Knowledge Navigator, do a YouTube search for the video.
If it weren't for Apple would we have the implementation of the ideas that they have had?
Certainly Bill Gates saying 10 years ago "let there be tablets!" didn't make it so.
Without Sony, Apple and a handful of really innovative creative risk takers, we might not have much.
You need to do a lot more basic computer history reading.
Remember, Picasso "Good artists copy, great artists steal!" and who doesn't. I think Alan Kay is right on the money Xerox Parc and other think tanks were responsible for the thinking and the dreaming but that doesn't get you a product. Where do ideas come from? Lots of them are built on many many other ideas. Steve Jobs recently (and previously) has used the expression of standing on the shoulders of giants. Apple implements the ideas as real life products.
Where did Star Trek get its ideas? (I often say that the show is a documentary from the future)
By the way, you must know about John Sculley's Knowledge Navigator, right? Where did that idea come from? For those who haven't heard of the Knowledge Navigator, do a YouTube search for the video.
If it weren't for Apple would we have the implementation of the ideas that they have had?
Certainly Bill Gates saying 10 years ago "let there be tablets!" didn't make it so.
Without Sony, Apple and a handful of really innovative creative risk takers, we might not have much.
Great Article!!! Kudos to the editor!!! Many of today's companies do not really invent much but improve upon tech. that is already there. The concept is always the same. If you are able to improve and market somebody is going to be there to buy, if you don't know what you are buying its your own fault. Many of the best inventors in the world that have truly done something remarkable don't get needed recognition. Look at Nikola Tesla most likely one of the greatest minds to have ever lived but he was no business man he was not in it for the money.
“The world will wait a long time for Nikola Tesla’s equal in achievement and imagination.” E. ARMSTRONG
“The world will wait a long time for Nikola Tesla’s equal in achievement and imagination.” E. ARMSTRONG
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I found this pic while doing my daily image search.
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[citation][nom]jameskatt[/nom]Steve Jobs DID NOT steal the iPad. The concept of a tablet computer has been present for over 30 years. It is in the public domain. Saying Steve Jobs stole the iPad is like saying someone who comes out with their own new tire stole the idea of the wheel from the caveman.Alan Kay is a genius who thought up of these concepts. However, he had no working model of his vision. He always had mock-ups. But his Dynabook was a cardboard mockup, not a real computer.Various manufacturers have been trying to create their own "iPad" for decades.Apple, without Steve Jobs, created the first tablet computer, the Newton, in 1989. This is over 20 years ago.Bill Gates came out with his own "iPad", called the Tablet PC, 10 years ago.These all have been commercial failures since few people bought them.But Steve Jobs is the first to make the tablet computer a commercial success.[/citation]
why keep calling these things ipads? they really are just tablet pc's so just call them that, why bother getting muttled up in brands or whose software it runs when they all do nearly the same thing or have a similar goal in mind.
why keep calling these things ipads? they really are just tablet pc's so just call them that, why bother getting muttled up in brands or whose software it runs when they all do nearly the same thing or have a similar goal in mind.
Well, Maybe the Apple invented something is just a marketin message, you know... Maybe the real thing Steve has invented is the way they are so powerfull getting something existing already and making it a true great product... And it is not a small thing.
Apple have never invented anything. With the exception of the first personal computer ( the Apple II), the first *commercial* Windows and Mouse system in the Mac and Lisa, the first laptop - the Powerbook - the first digital camera which could link to a computer, the first PDA ( the Newton), the first Games console ( Pipppin) , and major software improvements and UI design ( like multi-touch and Acqua) it is impossible to say what this group of charlatans have invented. Everything has been invented instead by MicroSoft and Linux.
Yet how many fanboys realise this? The problem is fanboys are sheep, about 92% of OS users buy OS X and listen to Apple controlled media like MSNBC.
So they know nothing about the real history of computing where everything is invented by MS and Linux-heads.
Yet how many fanboys realise this? The problem is fanboys are sheep, about 92% of OS users buy OS X and listen to Apple controlled media like MSNBC.
So they know nothing about the real history of computing where everything is invented by MS and Linux-heads.
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"The iPad is not a computer by any sense of the definition. It's an iTouch with a bigger screen. "
If it is not a computer why do people care that is it closed, when they dont care that the x-box is closed? Or that the Kindle is closed?
Answers on a postcard to - I-AM-TOLD-WHAT-TO-THINK-BY-THE-MICROSOFT-MEDIA
If it is not a computer why do people care that is it closed, when they dont care that the x-box is closed? Or that the Kindle is closed?
Answers on a postcard to - I-AM-TOLD-WHAT-TO-THINK-BY-THE-MICROSOFT-MEDIA
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Apple have never invented anything. With the exception of the first personal computer ( the Apple II), the first *commercial* Windows and Mouse system in the Mac and Lisa, the first laptop - the Powerbook - the first digital camera which could link to a computer, the first PDA ( the Newton), the first Games console ( Pipppin) , and major software improvements and UI design ( like multi-touch and Acqua) it is impossible to say what this group of charlatans have invented. Everything has been invented instead by MicroSoft and Linux.
Yet how many fanboys realise this? The problem is fanboys are sheep, about 92% of OS users buy OS X and listen to Apple controlled media like MSNBC.
So they know nothing about the real history of computing where everything is invented by MS and Linux-heads.
Yet how many fanboys realise this? The problem is fanboys are sheep, about 92% of OS users buy OS X and listen to Apple controlled media like MSNBC.
So they know nothing about the real history of computing where everything is invented by MS and Linux-heads.
Poor Zerox... They could have been bigger than Apple and MS combined if their incompetent execs had of realized the potential of the stuff their engineers were coming up with. The mouse, GUI, ethernet (among others) - all Zerox innovations. And if this article is to be believed, then they also cooked up the idea for tablet computing.
Sucks to be Zerox looking back on all this in hindsight... 😛
Sucks to be Zerox looking back on all this in hindsight... 😛
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Fanboys also dont realise that Apple didnt invent SCSI, or FireWire and that SilverLight and Flash are standards. Fanboys think that SilverLight and Flash are proprietary crap pieces of software produced by Adobe and Microsoft - to compete with each other - and both are crap.
Only us HateBoyz know the truth about the massive manipulation of the truth by Apple dominated media like PC WORLD and MSNBC and so on.
We are the minority OS, for sure, at only 92%. But at least we know we are not sheep.
Down with fanboys.
Up with HateBoyz!!
Only us HateBoyz know the truth about the massive manipulation of the truth by Apple dominated media like PC WORLD and MSNBC and so on.
We are the minority OS, for sure, at only 92%. But at least we know we are not sheep.
Down with fanboys.
Up with HateBoyz!!
"Watch the documentry called "Pirates of Silicon Valley" and you'll learn that Microsoft and Apple both stole ideas from Xerox."
Yeah, and nevermind about that licensing fee that Apple paid to Xerox.
Yeah, and nevermind about that licensing fee that Apple paid to Xerox.
[citation][nom]sorrin noie[/nom]Apple have never invented anything. With the exception of the first personal computer ( the Apple II), the first *commercial* Windows and Mouse system in the Mac and Lisa, the first laptop - the Powerbook - the first digital camera which could link to a computer, the first PDA ( the Newton), the first Games console ( Pipppin) , and major software improvements and UI design ( like multi-touch and Acqua) it is impossible to say what this group of charlatans have invented. Everything has been invented instead by MicroSoft and Linux.Yet how many fanboys realise this? The problem is fanboys are sheep, about 92% of OS users buy OS X and listen to Apple controlled media like MSNBC.So they know nothing about the real history of computing where everything is invented by MS and Linux-heads.[/citation]
This is a very funny post - especially the Apple controlled MSNBC, lol.
Wading through your sarcasm, I realized that the "Linux-heads" should actually have more in common with Apple fanboy types than Microsoft fanboy types...
Then again, true Linux types wouldn't put themselves in a higher place because of their understanding of a C Shell...which leads me to believe that those we see here are just poseurs.
This is a very funny post - especially the Apple controlled MSNBC, lol.
Wading through your sarcasm, I realized that the "Linux-heads" should actually have more in common with Apple fanboy types than Microsoft fanboy types...
Then again, true Linux types wouldn't put themselves in a higher place because of their understanding of a C Shell...which leads me to believe that those we see here are just poseurs.
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[citation][nom]dan117[/nom]Apple didn't steal anything. They invented the tablet, computer, portable music player, phone (it isn't a smartphone unless it has multitasking, which they will invent for OS 4) and other overpriced devices.They will invent a time machine, go back into the past and sue the guy.[/citation]
Where do you get this kind of ? APple did not invent portable music player. A carryable recorder/player was invented in the 50s by Uhra, German company. Sony later advertised it as a good way for personal music with its Walkman.
Apple did not invent tablet, Apple did not invent any phones. They did not invent touch screens.
And no, they did not invent the mouse, even though they made it popular. Apple is good at making things popular. They invented popularity
Where do you get this kind of ? APple did not invent portable music player. A carryable recorder/player was invented in the 50s by Uhra, German company. Sony later advertised it as a good way for personal music with its Walkman.
Apple did not invent tablet, Apple did not invent any phones. They did not invent touch screens.
And no, they did not invent the mouse, even though they made it popular. Apple is good at making things popular. They invented popularity
I don't like the title to your article. It's misleading. If Kay first thought of this in 1968 he's failed to bring it to market for over 40 years. Regardless of how many people have had a similar idea for a tablet in the past, Steve is the only one that's made it a reality.
If all these people complaining about Apple actually spent as much time working on new products as they do complaining about Apple maybe we'd have some good competition. Just imagining products doesn't change things, you need to make them too.
If all these people complaining about Apple actually spent as much time working on new products as they do complaining about Apple maybe we'd have some good competition. Just imagining products doesn't change things, you need to make them too.
Its perfectly okay to steal ideas. Our system allows for that, but if they steal the code directly then its a problem. PARC too may have take ideas from science fiction books and so on. Nothing wrong with that.
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