Die-Shot: Next-Gen 8-Core AMD Orochi Bulldozer

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hellwig

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I was expecting to see 8 sections on the chip. But by 8 cores, they mean 4 physical "modules", each with symmetric pipelines, or whatever they're calling them. That's really gonna start confusing things. Still, that image is really cool.
 

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Sounds good
Looks good
Smells good
Feels good
Tastes good

All we need now is a simple benchmark and a price - here's the thing, if it can beat the 6 core i7-980 but costs less then you have an instant winner.
Price vs performance is King.
Trying to impress with higher clock speeds went out of fashion with P4's at 3.8Ghz.
 

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I want to see this image in 3D. Like in Piranha 3D. Nevermind, I would just like to see Kelly Brooks in person, without makeup.
 

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[citation][nom]back_by_demand[/nom]Sounds goodLooks goodSmells goodFeels goodTastes goodAll we need now is a simple benchmark and a price - here's the thing, if it can beat the 6 core i7-980 but costs less then you have an instant winner.Price vs performance is King.Trying to impress with higher clock speeds went out of fashion with P4's at 3.8Ghz.[/citation]

I want a benchmark too! And I want this to be $250 for the higher-end-ish chip.

And as long as higher clock speed equals performance but not a crazy spike in power usage/heat, then by all means, I'm in. So many new games still prefer high frequency dual core over a lower frequency quad. I don't even have a reason to upgrade from my e8400 @ 3.6. But I will take a quad core 3.6 (or 3+ and OC myself!).
 

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[citation][nom]BulkZerker[/nom]Topping out at 3.6 initiaally I think. Still plenty damn fast.[/citation]

...right. Because the only factor that determines performance is clock rate?
 

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Competition is great for pricing but this needs to be worthy next generation and not a rehash of the old. Current AMD 6-cores have a hard time keeping up with Intel midrange 4 cores even overclocked, (except for gaming).
 

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I was expecting to see 8 sections on the chip. But by 8 cores, they mean 4 physical "modules", each with symmetric pipelines, or whatever they're calling them. That's really gonna start confusing things. Still, that image is really cool
Um no that is 8 true cores.... you can clearly see 8 cores, with the caches off the the side of each 4 pair
 

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[citation][nom]hellwig[/nom]I was expecting to see 8 sections on the chip. But by 8 cores, they mean 4 physical "modules", each with symmetric pipelines, or whatever they're calling them. That's really gonna start confusing things. Still, that image is really cool.[/citation]

Yep. Its their SMT, or CMT as they call it.

[citation][nom]xaero1ne[/nom]i hope they will be compatible with am3 boards.[/citation]

Nope. From the early reports, Bulldozer will not work in anything but AM3+ (AM3r2 or whatever they are calling it). But AM3 CPUs will work in AM3+/AM3r2
 

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It's well known around many other sites that this has been photoshopped by AMD to keep the logic hidden from competitors.

EDIT** Because I got down rated by someone who obviously has no idea about this topic. Here is a very reputable site that is frequented by engineers from AMD and Intel, alike.

http://www.techreport.com/discussions.x/19576

I was down rated by a person who claims Intel can learn nothing from AMD.
 

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Benchmarks are not always the determining factor, pricing and also processor build comes to play, even if it has the best benchmarks since its a new architecture we may never now what defects it may have remember the old Pentium 133
 
Each one of those 4 "cores" you see are actualy a dual integer core module with a single shared FP unit between the two cores. Sun has been doing this for years now with SAPRC CPU's. If executed well this is a great idea for server chips.
 

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I really hope this beats the Nehalem chips in performance. I want AMD to be able to catch up with Intel. Without their competition, Intel will stall like they did with the P4, and we won't get any real advancement for a decade.
 
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