[SOLVED] differences?

Darkbreeze

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Any "lead" Intel might enjoy over AMD currently, is clearly offset by the fact that for less money you can get the same performance (Or close enough to it that it won't matter in real world usage, because, let's face it, if you need 144fps and you can get it from AMD for 250 bucks, what sense does it make to pay 350 for Intel just to get 156fps that offer you no real benefit? ) or for the same price get a product that offers much better OVERALL performance, especially, as you say, if you plan to do more than JUST game, and are streaming, recording, running other applications, browsers with many tabs, or whatever else it is you are doing while gaming. Or, for games, and there are a lot more of them these days, that see significant improvement from more cores and threads, or applications that do as well. And every cycle more games and more applications get optimized for taking advantage of those additional cores and hyperthreads so it makes more and more sense to look at options that give you that.

That puts you in the conversation with AMD for most people. And for anybody that wants to save some money on their build, that probably puts you in the same conversation. I'm not against either camp, I just don't see anything from Intel lately that is making me inclined to stick with them even though I've done so for the last several systems I've built myself.
 

Darkbreeze

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There is nothing at that link. You need to open your build page, click on the "bbcode" option just above it, copy the text from the window that pops up and then paste that code into your post here.

It will ending up looking like this, for example.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor ($206.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright TRUE Spirit 140 Direct 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler ($42.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B550 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($62.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $446.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-02 14:11 EDT-0400
 

KeithK2006

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oh sorry, heres my build :D
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor ($461.50 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H115i RGB Pro XT 63 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($191.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z490 Steel Legend ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($229.00 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($119.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X Video Card ($799.00 @ Canada Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($134.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($169.99 @ Best Buy Canada)
Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 120 PWM 87 CFM 120 mm Fan ($26.97 @ Amazon Canada)
Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 120 PWM 87 CFM 120 mm Fan ($26.97 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $2320.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-02 14:16 EDT-0400
 

Darkbreeze

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Is this a theoretical build, or do you already have any of this and are only looking to add the motherboard?

Do you have your heart set on going with the Intel parts, because you can build a gaming system that is AS capable or in many cases, better, for less money, using AMD Ryzen 3000 series parts. That would be my preference at the moment. The latest Intel parts and platforms don't impress me at all and leave much to be desired, especially at prices that exceed better performing parts from AMD. But whatever you want, that's what we'll go with.
 
oh sorry, heres my build :D
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor ($461.50 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H115i RGB Pro XT 63 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($191.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z490 Steel Legend ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($229.00 @ Canada Computers)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($119.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X Video Card ($799.00 @ Canada Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($134.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($169.99 @ Best Buy Canada)
Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 120 PWM 87 CFM 120 mm Fan ($26.97 @ Amazon Canada)
Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 120 PWM 87 CFM 120 mm Fan ($26.97 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $2320.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-02 14:16 EDT-0400

If you are gaming mostly it will do good, intel still has the lead over AMD on that department as well the advantage that you can actually enjoy tweaking and overclock the CPU way more than the Ryzen will do.
Which ultimately will give you more performance...free.
But if you are doing more than gaming which means, rendering, streaming, anything that requires more cores, in that case you want to go with Ryzen.
 

Darkbreeze

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Any "lead" Intel might enjoy over AMD currently, is clearly offset by the fact that for less money you can get the same performance (Or close enough to it that it won't matter in real world usage, because, let's face it, if you need 144fps and you can get it from AMD for 250 bucks, what sense does it make to pay 350 for Intel just to get 156fps that offer you no real benefit? ) or for the same price get a product that offers much better OVERALL performance, especially, as you say, if you plan to do more than JUST game, and are streaming, recording, running other applications, browsers with many tabs, or whatever else it is you are doing while gaming. Or, for games, and there are a lot more of them these days, that see significant improvement from more cores and threads, or applications that do as well. And every cycle more games and more applications get optimized for taking advantage of those additional cores and hyperthreads so it makes more and more sense to look at options that give you that.

That puts you in the conversation with AMD for most people. And for anybody that wants to save some money on their build, that probably puts you in the same conversation. I'm not against either camp, I just don't see anything from Intel lately that is making me inclined to stick with them even though I've done so for the last several systems I've built myself.
 

KeithK2006

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So If I can get about the same performance with an AMD cpu for cheaper I might aswell get one of those then right? Plus the motherboard is slightly cheaper :D Though I've heard that amd cpus benefit from higher memory speeds so would it be smarter to find a 3600mhz ram set?
 

Darkbreeze

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This, is a much better build in my opinion, while still trying to stick to some of the less critical choices you'd made, and overall offers better performance, higher quality and saves you some money as well.

The 3600mhz RAM isn't necessary, because the cost rises astronomically if you move to a 3600mhz kit with a low enough CL latency to make it worth it. Conversely, this 3200mhz kit, which is natively supported by the Ryzen 3000 series, is a CL14 kit and at 3200mhz CL14 is just as fast, faster actually, than a 3600mhz CL16 kit.

The RM power supply you selected is ok, but the RMx is a moderately better unit.

The EVGA FTW3 Ultra gaming is an amazingly good card, and to be honest, any time you choose an Nvidia based graphics card, EVGA should probably be the very first brand you look to. Their customer service is exemplary and is the best in the industry, bar none, and the quality of their graphics cards is top notch. No comparison by any other company in my opinion, at least not when it comes to Nvidia based gaming cards.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($419.50 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H115i RGB Pro XT 63 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($194.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL14 Memory ($139.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($83.50 @ Vuugo)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($72.75 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card ($799.82 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($134.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($159.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 140 PWM 61.2 CFM 140 mm Fan ($19.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 140 PWM 61.2 CFM 140 mm Fan ($19.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Total: $2195.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-03 00:07 EDT-0400
 

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