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When I try to record programming from my Dishnet Satellite reciever..
my recording will stop and a window appears me telling me that I do
not own digital rights to this programming and it stops recording.

How do they, it - them Know that I'm recording anything? When I record
a program with my vcr - it doesn't stop and refuse to.

Can anyone help me in figuring out what is going on? Is anyone else
experiencing this - and how can I reocord from my dish?

Thanks,

Donna
 
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"Donna" <rahandsome14@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b9449b08.0411301349.49bede7a@posting.google.com...
> When I try to record programming from my Dishnet Satellite reciever..
> my recording will stop and a window appears me telling me that I do
> not own digital rights to this programming and it stops recording.
>
> How do they, it - them Know that I'm recording anything? When I record
> a program with my vcr - it doesn't stop and refuse to.
>
> Can anyone help me in figuring out what is going on? Is anyone else
> experiencing this - and how can I reocord from my dish?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Donna




Dont quote me on this but i think that they might start doin what they do to
music. So that on certain recorder types they wont let you record them
because they have some spceial protection on them- like on music you can
only play it so many times or copy it soo many times. That might be it or it
might be worse.
 
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There is a data block in the signal that contains a bit which tells
digital devices not to record that signal.

It's going to get a LOT worse. All HDTV and digital TV will have a
"broadcast flag" by law as of next July. Monitors used with compliant
digital systems will have to have "HDCP" [High Definition Content (or
copy) Protection]. If they don't the digital source (such as set-top
box, HDTV tuner, and others) won't display an image on that display. It
means that if you have a $10,000 Pioneer plasma panel made without HDCP,
you won't be able to connect it via a DVI interface to .... much of
anything. You will have to drop back to a lower quality analog
connection. Virtually all current production displays have HDCP, but
there are some compatability problems, as the technology is not yet
completely mature and debugged.


Donna wrote:

> When I try to record programming from my Dishnet Satellite reciever..
> my recording will stop and a window appears me telling me that I do
> not own digital rights to this programming and it stops recording.
>
> How do they, it - them Know that I'm recording anything? When I record
> a program with my vcr - it doesn't stop and refuse to.
>
> Can anyone help me in figuring out what is going on? Is anyone else
> experiencing this - and how can I reocord from my dish?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Donna
 
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I had this same problem with recording a few months back. I was given a
patch that tells the software to record regardless of the 'dont let him copy
me' signal.

Sorry I dont have the link, but the patch is out there.

> There is a data block in the signal that contains a bit which tells
> digital devices not to record that signal.
>
> It's going to get a LOT worse. All HDTV and digital TV will have a
> "broadcast flag" by law as of next July. Monitors used with compliant
> digital systems will have to have "HDCP" [High Definition Content (or
> copy) Protection]. If they don't the digital source (such as set-top box,
> HDTV tuner, and others) won't display an image on that display. It means
> that if you have a $10,000 Pioneer plasma panel made without HDCP, you
> won't be able to connect it via a DVI interface to .... much of anything.
> You will have to drop back to a lower quality analog connection.
> Virtually all current production displays have HDCP, but there are some
> compatability problems, as the technology is not yet completely mature and
> debugged.
>
>
> Donna wrote:
>
>> When I try to record programming from my Dishnet Satellite reciever..
>> my recording will stop and a window appears me telling me that I do
>> not own digital rights to this programming and it stops recording.
>>
>> How do they, it - them Know that I'm recording anything? When I record
>> a program with my vcr - it doesn't stop and refuse to.
>>
>> Can anyone help me in figuring out what is going on? Is anyone else
>> experiencing this - and how can I reocord from my dish?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Donna
 
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Thank you all for your postings, it seems to me if I can't use my Ati
Aiw9600xt to record from my Tv that customers should be made aware
that their Vcr will work fine but Ati AIW cards won't.

It seems a waste to pay $300 for a video card for Home Theatre only to
find I can't record Live TV.

Nowhere on the Ati site does it mention this.



"Brad" <nospam@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:<UOard.382572$Pl.238631@pd7tw1no>...
> I had this same problem with recording a few months back. I was given a
> patch that tells the software to record regardless of the 'dont let him copy
> me' signal.
>
> Sorry I dont have the link, but the patch is out there.
>
> > There is a data block in the signal that contains a bit which tells
> > digital devices not to record that signal.
> >
> > It's going to get a LOT worse. All HDTV and digital TV will have a
> > "broadcast flag" by law as of next July. Monitors used with compliant
> > digital systems will have to have "HDCP" [High Definition Content (or
> > copy) Protection]. If they don't the digital source (such as set-top box,
> > HDTV tuner, and others) won't display an image on that display. It means
> > that if you have a $10,000 Pioneer plasma panel made without HDCP, you
> > won't be able to connect it via a DVI interface to .... much of anything.
> > You will have to drop back to a lower quality analog connection.
> > Virtually all current production displays have HDCP, but there are some
> > compatability problems, as the technology is not yet completely mature and
> > debugged.
> >
> >
> > Donna wrote:
> >
> >> When I try to record programming from my Dishnet Satellite reciever..
> >> my recording will stop and a window appears me telling me that I do
> >> not own digital rights to this programming and it stops recording.
> >>
> >> How do they, it - them Know that I'm recording anything? When I record
> >> a program with my vcr - it doesn't stop and refuse to.
> >>
> >> Can anyone help me in figuring out what is going on? Is anyone else
> >> experiencing this - and how can I reocord from my dish?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Donna
 
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That works for now, because the source equipment was designed before all
of this was fully implemented. It won't work in the very near future,
digital video systems are getting locked down very tightly in the
immediate future.


Brad wrote:
> I had this same problem with recording a few months back. I was given a
> patch that tells the software to record regardless of the 'dont let him copy
> me' signal.
>
> Sorry I dont have the link, but the patch is out there.
>
>
>>There is a data block in the signal that contains a bit which tells
>>digital devices not to record that signal.
>>
>>It's going to get a LOT worse. All HDTV and digital TV will have a
>>"broadcast flag" by law as of next July. Monitors used with compliant
>>digital systems will have to have "HDCP" [High Definition Content (or
>>copy) Protection]. If they don't the digital source (such as set-top box,
>>HDTV tuner, and others) won't display an image on that display. It means
>>that if you have a $10,000 Pioneer plasma panel made without HDCP, you
>>won't be able to connect it via a DVI interface to .... much of anything.
>>You will have to drop back to a lower quality analog connection.
>>Virtually all current production displays have HDCP, but there are some
>>compatability problems, as the technology is not yet completely mature and
>>debugged.
>>
>>
>>Donna wrote:
>>
>>
>>>When I try to record programming from my Dishnet Satellite reciever..
>>>my recording will stop and a window appears me telling me that I do
>>>not own digital rights to this programming and it stops recording.
>>>
>>>How do they, it - them Know that I'm recording anything? When I record
>>>a program with my vcr - it doesn't stop and refuse to.
>>>
>>>Can anyone help me in figuring out what is going on? Is anyone else
>>>experiencing this - and how can I reocord from my dish?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Donna
>
>
>
 
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I am curious, what kind of input are you using? Svideo? Composite? How
are you recording, do you use some kind of scheduler?

THANKS!
--Dan

"Donna" <rahandsome14@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b9449b08.0411301349.49bede7a@posting.google.com...
> When I try to record programming from my Dishnet Satellite reciever..
> my recording will stop and a window appears me telling me that I do
> not own digital rights to this programming and it stops recording.
>
> How do they, it - them Know that I'm recording anything? When I record
> a program with my vcr - it doesn't stop and refuse to.
>
> Can anyone help me in figuring out what is going on? Is anyone else
> experiencing this - and how can I reocord from my dish?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Donna