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I'm on my second phone call to Dell Spare Parts and service. I need the
cooling fan/shroud located on the rear of the machine which directs air to
the CPU. The fan bearings are noisy and getting noiser, and should it fail
the obvious happens.

Can anyone give me an alternative fan replacement for Dell p/n 5U059?

Thanks in advance,
Greg
 
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Doesn't exist. I've been looking for one myself. The wiring is proprietary
to Dell.

Ted Zieglar

"Greg" <nospam@noreply.com> wrote in message
news:10ikvll9rkps394@corp.supernews.com...
> I'm on my second phone call to Dell Spare Parts and service. I need the
> cooling fan/shroud located on the rear of the machine which directs air to
> the CPU. The fan bearings are noisy and getting noiser, and should it fail
> the obvious happens.
>
> Can anyone give me an alternative fan replacement for Dell p/n 5U059?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Greg
>
>
>
 
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"Greg" <nospam@noreply.com> wrote in message
news:10ikvll9rkps394@corp.supernews.com...
> I'm on my second phone call to Dell Spare Parts and service. I need the
> cooling fan/shroud located on the rear of the machine which directs air to
> the CPU. The fan bearings are noisy and getting noiser, and should it fail
> the obvious happens.
>
> Can anyone give me an alternative fan replacement for Dell p/n 5U059?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Greg
>
>
>

I'm not sure if you're looking for a third-party solution or another Dell
part. If it's the latter, try D/PN D1592. That should get you the fan and
plug, shroud, and housing. Snap it in and go. The same part has a variety
of part numbers depending on the age of the machine. The specs. seem to be
identical - though I can't recall if the fan maker is or not.

Stew
 
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"Ted Zieglar aka Rocky" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message news:rpvWc.28571$rP2.4517@hydra.nntpserver.com...
> Doesn't exist. I've been looking for one myself. The wiring is proprietary
> to Dell.

I'm curious... how many wires are used? Have you found a pinout
diagram for the connector, or have you in some other way identified
which wires are what?
 
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The connector from the fan to the motherboard is an unusual 3-pin one, common
across Dell PowerEdge servers (at least some early models), Optiplexes, and
Dimensions. The connector is black and has a little latch to hold it in place,
much like the latch on the 4-connector audio cables inside a computer. I'm sure
that the wires follow the usual color coding scheme for 3-pin fans. Fan
operating voltage is the usual 12v. Amperage rating varies with the size and
RPM of fan. Various manufacturers including NMB... Ben Myers

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 20:38:45 -0400, "Ted" <nothanks@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>
>"Ted Zieglar aka Rocky" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message news:rpvWc.28571$rP2.4517@hydra.nntpserver.com...
>> Doesn't exist. I've been looking for one myself. The wiring is proprietary
>> to Dell.
>
>I'm curious... how many wires are used? Have you found a pinout
>diagram for the connector, or have you in some other way identified
>which wires are what?
 
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<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message news:412a9e5f.48460856@news.charter.net...
> The connector from the fan to the motherboard is an unusual 3-pin one, common
> across Dell PowerEdge servers (at least some early models), Optiplexes, and
> Dimensions. The connector is black and has a little latch to hold it in place,
> much like the latch on the 4-connector audio cables inside a computer. I'm sure
> that the wires follow the usual color coding scheme for 3-pin fans. Fan
> operating voltage is the usual 12v. Amperage rating varies with the size and
> RPM of fan. Various manufacturers including NMB... Ben Myers

Would that be red = +12v, black = ground, third (possibly yellow) wire
= speed sense signal to MB? What I'm wondering is are these things
standardized enough that you can usually safely interchange processor
fans or in this case grab a new one and simply hook it up to the cable
end off the old one?
 
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All these name brand computer companies kill themselves by coming up with
different part numbers for the same physical part installed in a different model
of computer. And, of course, they assign different part numbers to physically
identical parts made by different manufacturers. This complicates the
management of spare parts inventory, and adds greatly to the cost of stocking
spares. Must be something I do not understand about the manufacturing mentality
that drives this need to assign unique part numbers. Even with cross-references
for identical parts, it's a nightmare.

I've run into the same problem trying to decipher and use spare parts for DEC
(R.I.P.) and Compaq (double R.I.P.) computers. Compaq has used the same 1.44"
floppy drive without a front bezel and with a rounded eject buttom forever. A
1.44" floppy from a 1994 model Compaq will drop right into a two-year old
computer. But there must be 30 or 40 different part numbers for Compaq 1.44"
floppy drives. Maybe more. And then I get calls and emails from spare parts
houses looking for the EXACT part number, and a perfect physical replacement
will not do... Ben Myers

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 20:31:12 -0500, "S.Lewis" <stew1960@cover.bellsouth.net>
wrote:

>
>"Greg" <nospam@noreply.com> wrote in message
>news:10ikvll9rkps394@corp.supernews.com...
>> I'm on my second phone call to Dell Spare Parts and service. I need the
>> cooling fan/shroud located on the rear of the machine which directs air to
>> the CPU. The fan bearings are noisy and getting noiser, and should it fail
>> the obvious happens.
>>
>> Can anyone give me an alternative fan replacement for Dell p/n 5U059?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>
>I'm not sure if you're looking for a third-party solution or another Dell
>part. If it's the latter, try D/PN D1592. That should get you the fan and
>plug, shroud, and housing. Snap it in and go. The same part has a variety
>of part numbers depending on the age of the machine. The specs. seem to be
>identical - though I can't recall if the fan maker is or not.
>
>Stew
>
>
 
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The BIG fan from the Poweredge server here has red, black and white wires. Same
thing, I would imagine. The white one is the middle wire... Ben Myers

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:00:21 -0400, "Ted" <nothanks@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>
><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message news:412a9e5f.48460856@news.charter.net...
>> The connector from the fan to the motherboard is an unusual 3-pin one, common
>> across Dell PowerEdge servers (at least some early models), Optiplexes, and
>> Dimensions. The connector is black and has a little latch to hold it in place,
>> much like the latch on the 4-connector audio cables inside a computer. I'm sure
>> that the wires follow the usual color coding scheme for 3-pin fans. Fan
>> operating voltage is the usual 12v. Amperage rating varies with the size and
>> RPM of fan. Various manufacturers including NMB... Ben Myers
>
>Would that be red = +12v, black = ground, third (possibly yellow) wire
>= speed sense signal to MB? What I'm wondering is are these things
>standardized enough that you can usually safely interchange processor
>fans or in this case grab a new one and simply hook it up to the cable
>end off the old one?
 
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Greg,

FWIW, I called Dell spare parts yesterday and told them I needed a cooling fan
and shroud for a Dell 4400. I was told the cost would be $14 and change plus
shipping for a total of around $23. The assembly arrived today, which is pretty
damned good service. The Dell part number for the entire assembly is D1592,
both on the packing slip and stickered onto the green shroud. The fan is a
Datech part #0925-12HBTL. Since you really only need the fan, you can carefull
remove the fan from the 4400 shroud and attach it to the 2400 shroud, which I
think are different. The fan is the same. I think the price is reasonable
given the specialized nature of the part, and the overnight service is awesome,
just like my experience with IBM. (I mention IBM because I have as high respect
for IBM as I do for Dell. Both make quality computers compared to the other
name-brand purveyors of computer junk.)... Ben Myers

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 18:38:32 -0500, "Greg" <nospam@noreply.com> wrote:

>I'm on my second phone call to Dell Spare Parts and service. I need the
>cooling fan/shroud located on the rear of the machine which directs air to
>the CPU. The fan bearings are noisy and getting noiser, and should it fail
>the obvious happens.
>
>Can anyone give me an alternative fan replacement for Dell p/n 5U059?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Greg
>
>
>
 
Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
news:412d5ceb.26754829@news.charter.net...
> Greg,
>
> FWIW, I called Dell spare parts yesterday and told them I needed a cooling
> fan
> and shroud for a Dell 4400. I was told the cost would be $14 and change
> plus
> shipping for a total of around $23. The assembly arrived today, which is
> pretty
> damned good service. The Dell part number for the entire assembly is
> D1592,
> both on the packing slip and stickered onto the green shroud. The fan is
> a
> Datech part #0925-12HBTL. Since you really only need the fan, you can
> carefull
> remove the fan from the 4400 shroud and attach it to the 2400 shroud,
> which I
> think are different. The fan is the same. I think the price is
> reasonable
> given the specialized nature of the part, and the overnight service is
> awesome,
> just like my experience with IBM. (I mention IBM because I have as high
> respect
> for IBM as I do for Dell. Both make quality computers compared to the
> other
> name-brand purveyors of computer junk.)... Ben Myers
>

<snip>

Ben,

You must mean you received a fan for your 4600? (not 4400)...as the parts
are totally different. ?

Additionally, if the OP pulls the fan off of the rubber bushings/nibs in
that housing, he will indeed have POD hell getting another back in using
same, unless he substitutes screws or some plastic pop tabs - either of
which would be pretty noisy.

The fan series for the 43XX-83XX systems is the 2X585 fan/housing. The 4600
( and 23XX-46XX) systems use the part number you've mentioned.

Good luck.


Stew
 
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:53:05 -0500, "S.Lewis" <stew1960@cover.bellsouth.net>
wrote:
Nope. I asked for a 4400 fan/shroud assembly, and I got the D1592 part. You're
right. It doesn't quite fit the 4400 chassis. But there are enough parts (the
fan and bsuhings, plus other odds and end in my parts boxes to make for a
professional enough adaptation. Close enough for government work, and the price
was modest enough to make it worth bringing a 4400 back to life without messing
around with a soldering iron.

The rubber bushings are easy to remove and re-insert. I use the tip of a small
flat-head screwdriver to gently ease a bushing out of a hole. The bushings are
even easier to re-insert... Ben Myers

<SNIPS>
>
>Ben,
>
>You must mean you received a fan for your 4600? (not 4400)...as the parts
>are totally different. ?
>
>Additionally, if the OP pulls the fan off of the rubber bushings/nibs in
>that housing, he will indeed have POD hell getting another back in using
>same, unless he substitutes screws or some plastic pop tabs - either of
>which would be pretty noisy.
>
>The fan series for the 43XX-83XX systems is the 2X585 fan/housing. The 4600
>( and 23XX-46XX) systems use the part number you've mentioned.
>
>Good luck.
>
>
>Stew
>
>
 
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<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
news:412dd686.1410555@news.charter.net...
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:53:05 -0500, "S.Lewis"
> <stew1960@cover.bellsouth.net>
> wrote:

<snip>

> The rubber bushings are easy to remove and re-insert. I use the tip of a
> small
> flat-head screwdriver to gently ease a bushing out of a hole. The
> bushings are
> even easier to re-insert... Ben Myers
>
> <SNIPS>


I'm glad you've found them easy. I've found them to be a major PITA.


Stew
 
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I cut my teeth, so to speak, on the Pentium II and Pentium III IBM towers with
real quiet fans held on by rubber bushings. Gave my son a set of 4 to attach a
fan to his custom-built computer... Ben Myers

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:58:31 -0500, "S.Lewis" <stew1960@cover.bellsouth.net>
wrote:

>
><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
>news:412dd686.1410555@news.charter.net...
>> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 01:53:05 -0500, "S.Lewis"
>> <stew1960@cover.bellsouth.net>
>> wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> The rubber bushings are easy to remove and re-insert. I use the tip of a
>> small
>> flat-head screwdriver to gently ease a bushing out of a hole. The
>> bushings are
>> even easier to re-insert... Ben Myers
>>
>> <SNIPS>
>
>
>I'm glad you've found them easy. I've found them to be a major PITA.
>
>
>Stew
>
>
 
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Thanks to all that helped!

Greg


"Greg" <nospam@noreply.com> wrote in message
news:10ikvll9rkps394@corp.supernews.com...
> I'm on my second phone call to Dell Spare Parts and service. I need the
> cooling fan/shroud located on the rear of the machine which directs air to
> the CPU. The fan bearings are noisy and getting noiser, and should it fail
> the obvious happens.
>
> Can anyone give me an alternative fan replacement for Dell p/n 5U059?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Greg
>
>
>
 
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