DirectX 11

[rsetter1]

Hmmmmm Real....If we could create "Real" would we still exist?

 

[enewmen]

im guessing thats what is comming next. seriously though, i got a oced e6400 3.5 ghz and the only thing that lags me is cpu stress testing and even then i can still open up a browser or two. anything over that is sort of overkill for now.

ray tracing would be pretty cool. give it 4-5 years for that to become real. maybe in the next windows lol.

oh, your worried about the power? technology will change so much within 4-5 years that power wouldn't even be an issue.

remember those big vacuum tubes they used in the old days of computers that took up space and a lot of power... well now... we got something new now dont we? ( compacitors or transistors i think it was) 😛 patience is ALWAYS key.

Real 3D holographic monitors already exist. They are basically like watching a 3D movie without the glasses.
However, even a 15" monitor costs over $2000 and there is a very narrow viewing angle.
This was some years ago, so I expect there is some progress now.

 

[enewmen]

Another interesting note is that the rendering engine as it exists would shift focus completely: FROM the position of rendering polygons and then rendering light effects on them TO the position of solely rendering how light interacts with particle surfaces. Interestingly, with a strict and true ray-tracing viewpoint, the camera would be immersed in a light field, and would detect what was coming into the viewport's plane of vision. This is in opposition to detecting what is visible outward from the plane of vision and then culling out what is not, including everything above, below, to the left and right of the viewport.

Anyway, that's my interested technophilic rant, my two cents.

Ok, so what do you predict in the next few years?
Shader model 5,6? Or something completely different, like ray-tracing and accurate object collition??

 

[StevieD]

I love real s_x. It is sooo much better than fake s_x. But if I had only fake s_x, I would take fake s_x. Maybe I have too much fake s_x because I have carpal hand syndrome with furry palms.

Is that the kind of FAKE to which you are referring?

 

[mbs49]

I heard DX43 is coming out in a few weeks and it makes everything so real you can reach into the monitor and rip the clothes off of Laura in the next Tomb Raider game!

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

My question is, will my new tri-core be threaded for DX11? Or I spose some son of a kvatch tooled that up too

 

[Harrisson]

On the side note, MS said they would release new OS every 3 years, is there a better timing to introduce DX11 than new OS? I think games will mature for DX10 in 2-3 years, if MS would again radicaly change DX as they did DX9->DX10, it would harm game industry instead of helping it.

 

[Bress]

So the technology will just keep getting better and faster will it?
Actually, what no-one seems to have taken into account is that within the next 10-20 years or so, perhaps suddenly, perhaps gradually, there will be a huge breakdown of economic and social institutions throughout the globe, brought about by rising oil prices, water shortages, mass poverty in Africa and Asia, and not least of all, climate change raising temperatures and furthering the spread of disease, and rising sea levels devastating the coastlines of entire continents. Technology will start to go backwards, and the pressures that societies will be placed under will make the idea of anyone owning an 80-core computer with 10TB-of-DDR50 RAM for gaming seem utterly ridiculous. Moreso.
History demonstrates that all eras come to an end eventually. We may be near the end of the luxury-home-supercomputer era, in fact we may be close to the technological peak already.
More and more money, for faster and faster computers, with better and better graphics. Forever. Ever feel like you're being taken for a ride?

 

[Bress]

Its lucky I have a crystal ball, otherwise you might not know these things.

AND my crystal ball still only uses Directx 9c...

 

[ausch30]

You need to calm down a little

 

[mbs49]

More and more money, for faster and faster computers, with better and better graphics. Forever. Ever feel like you're being taken for a ride?

It's called progress and advances; been happening since the dawn of man. If you feel like you're being taken for a ride, it is your choice to get off.

 

[Dr_asik]

You mean render the world atom by atom? That would take like 1 year per frame.

Reality is so cool, it renders super complexity at a nigh-infinite framerate. I think God is the CPU. 😉 We're still far away from that with our measly C2Ds and geForce 8800s.

 

[rodney_ws]

Am I the only person that finds this post HILLARIOUS?!? The original date on it is 6-8-2006 and the OP is asking about DX11 and saying "DX10 is almost here" It's over a year later and DX10 is still "almost here"

 

[ausch30]

Am I the only person that finds this post HILLARIOUS?!? The original date on it is 6-8-2006 and the OP is asking about DX11 and saying "DX10 is almost here" It's over a year later and DX10 is still "almost here"

It's like that "which is better PS3 or high-end computer" thread, some things just won't go away.

 

[turboflame]

It's like that "which is better PS3 or high-end computer" thread, some things just won't go away.

funny, this thread got dug up by a ps3 fanboy

Buy a Ps3 it can already do this, im running linux on my ps3 and running a frame renderer on this it renders in real time, besides the games that are in works force unleashed ect. which use real time rendering it requires alot of power.

 

[ausch30]

funny, this thread got dug up by a ps3 fanboy

Damn, I shouldn't have said anything. He'll probably go dig that thing up next.

 

[Bress]

You need to calm down a little

Who me? Nah, its cool man, I'm cool.

I simply wanted to make the point that the computer hardware market, or for that matter, the entire industry, is not immune to the realities of the real world (as opposed to the realities of our 3d immersive gaming worlds), and it is naive to think that technological progress in the 21st century will continue to resemble that of the 20th century. Speaking of which...

It's called progress and advances; been happening since the dawn of man. If you feel like you're being taken for a ride, it is your choice to get off.

I think you need to calm down...

Progress: "a movement toward a goal or to a further or higher stage" (dictionary.com)

If you're continually spending thousands on the latest PC parts that will be worth a piece of cardboard in 2-3 years, where's the progress in that? Ask yourself honestly whether you are spending money on anything other than making games look prettier. A brief satisfaction at best. There is no goal, other than continuously bleeding dry the pockets of graphics junkies. I can hardly talk, I like high-end graphics too, and I probably will get a directx10 compatible card at some point (as long as there's none of that DRM crap on it, but that's another topic, so please lets not get started on that, I agree this topic is overstretched already). However, it is helpful to recognize the nature of the computer hardware market for what it is, an ongoing attempt to create a demand for expensive stuff that no-one needs. That doesn't mean that every new product is a rip-off, but a bit of perspective on whether that new game is worth a thousand-dollar upgrade is a good idea.

Peace and happiness to you all, especially anyone who doesn't like what I'm saying.

 

[MagicPants]

Hi Guys.
DX 10 is almost here and I was courious if there is any news on DX11 yet?
From what little I know, all current real-time PC 3D graphics are all FAKE.

Don't worry Enewmen, DX11 is on it way and it will be REAL. According to an article in the Register DX11 will ship with the next version of Windows (Windows Synergy) in February 2012.

It offers support for:

True 3D monitors that don't require glasses
Multi mouse input
Latency Free Multiplayer
17.2 surround sound
Physics capable of simulating 1200 moles of matter simultaneously
Realtime artificial intelligence equal to a BA in General Studies or greater (MA turn based)
6 axis Olfactory

Did I leave anything out? I'll have to find the link

 

[systemlord]

*yawn* I wish I could delete topics.

You know I wasn't going to touch this thread with a ten foot pole, but then I saw you comment and I must agree with you on DELETING THIS POST! Come on people get real! :lol:

 

[andybird123]

I read an article a few days ago that showed intel running a ray tracing demo on a 50 CPU Xeon server from 2 years ago (at 4FPS) versus running on a single penrynn at 60FPS, can't find it now, but the article was very much suggesting that Ray tracing would be the next thing to make it in to games.

 

[turboflame]

Progress: "a movement toward a goal or to a further or higher stage" (dictionary.com)

If you're continually spending thousands on the latest PC parts that will be worth a piece of cardboard in 2-3 years, where's the progress in that? Ask yourself honestly whether you are spending money on anything other than making games look prettier. A brief satisfaction at best. There is no goal, other than continuously bleeding dry the pockets of graphics junkies. I can hardly talk, I like high-end graphics too, and I probably will get a directx10 compatible card at some point (as long as there's none of that DRM crap on it, but that's another topic, so please lets not get started on that, I agree this topic is overstretched already). However, it is helpful to recognize the nature of the computer hardware market for what it is, an ongoing attempt to create a demand for expensive stuff that no-one needs. That doesn't mean that every new product is a rip-off, but a bit of perspective on whether that new game is worth a thousand-dollar upgrade is a good idea.

Peace and happiness to you all, especially anyone who doesn't like what I'm saying.

Yeah, all new games should be playable, maxed out, on a 2ghz P4 and a 9600, that would be progress?

You don't have to spend $1000 to play a new game, I never have, my current rig cost me around $500 and I can play all of the latest games on high settings.

 

[authoratah]

Wow, I have a lot in common with you pauldh. I'm all those things too! I'm also the prince of madness... Not sure how that happened!

I looked at the graphics in Crysis and for perhaps a brief second, I thought it was a photograph. I guess I'll start thinking 'real' when my brain is fooled for long periods of time

 

[enewmen]

Don't worry Enewmen, DX11 is on it way and it will be REAL. According to an article in the Register DX11 will ship with the next version of Windows (Windows Synergy) in February 2012.

It offers support for:

True 3D monitors that don't require glasses
Multi mouse input
Latency Free Multiplayer
17.2 surround sound
Physics capable of simulating 1200 moles of matter simultaneously
Realtime artificial intelligence equal to a BA in General Studies or greater (MA turn based)
6 axis Olfactory

Did I leave anything out? I'll have to find the link

Thanks,
When I said 3D graphics are fake, I ment shaders seem to replace the effects of ray-tracing. I think most agree while graphics improve, even the best ones don't look or move photo-realisticly - even in low-res. I hope this will start to change.

 

[jwlangs]

Anyone know when the K12 is coming out? I heard future processors might run on fingernail clippings and chest hair, and they'll be 324987329723 times faster.

What about hovercars? The anti-christ?

:roll:

Say a prayer. God knows.

I've heard paper launch of the anti-christ 2H 2012, benches should start leaking any time. Be on the lookout @@

 

[mbs49]

If you're continually spending thousands on the latest PC parts that will be worth a piece of cardboard in 2-3 years, where's the progress in that?

The progress isn't in how much money one is spending; it is the advances in technology. If people want to spend on new technology when it comes out, that is their choice.

However, it is helpful to recognize the nature of the computer hardware market for what it is, an ongoing attempt to create a demand for expensive stuff that no-one needs.

This has nothing to do with "need." It has everything to do with "want." Do you need that plasma big screen? Absolutely not; but you sure want it. Do you need that great new game? Nope, but you sure want it. The technology advances because people want it, therefore there is a market for it. If there were no market for it, the advances wouldn't come; at least not as quickly as they do.

It seems you are blaming hardware companies for shoving unnecessary products down our throats; when in fact it is us, the consumer, that is clamoring for it.