News Discrete GPU sales dip while Nvidia continues to dominate — iGPUs increase while discrete GPUs decline

[Admin]

GPU market grows moderately in Q3 as sales of discrete GPUs collapse, but CPU sales are up.

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[User of Computers]

where are muh graphs?

 

[ekio]

Since Apple crushed the competition in single thread perf with its M4, and that you can easily make a 32 Arm core CPU, with tons of power, it makes sense that keeping CPU/GPU as dedicated chips feels more and more useless.

If Nvidia or AMD was selling a SOC system with a premium gpu perf (4080/4090 level), with an included arm cpu system all-in-one, I would be glad to ditch my x86 cpu.

 

[User of Computers]

Since Apple crushed the competition in single thread perf with its M4, and that you can easily make a 32 Arm core CPU, with tons of power, it makes sense that keeping CPU/GPU as dedicated chips feels more and more useless.

If Nvidia or AMD was selling a SOC system with a premium gpu perf (4080/4090 level), with an included arm cpu system all-in-one, I would be glad to ditch my x86 cpu.

What does Apple having a good CPU core have to do with the modularity of computer components? Am I missing something?

(AMD already has something like this with their MI300A, combining a powerful compute GPU and some general-purpose CPU cores)

 

[hotaru251]

Since Apple crushed the competition in single thread perf with its M4, and that you can easily make a 32 Arm core CPU, with tons of power, it makes sense that keeping CPU/GPU as dedicated chips feels more and more useless.

you mean apples $3000+ machine (that goes much higher when you add an actual acceptable amount of ram/storage) thats only aroudn a 4080 super tier of graphics?


you can build a better system (and not be locked into a locked down ecosystem that wont let you do what you want but only what Apple says you can do) with a 4080 super and have an upgrade path going forward instead of a e-waste paperweight. (as nand has limited lifespan and WILL die and apple doesnt let you swap em out)

also fact you can't truly compare x86 to arm (which apples are) & better off waiting few yrs until amd (and possibly intel) release arm designs.

Also fact Nvidia might actually be getting into ARM cpu market.

 

[Heat_Fan89]

Since Apple crushed the competition in single thread perf with its M4, and that you can easily make a 32 Arm core CPU, with tons of power, it makes sense that keeping CPU/GPU as dedicated chips feels more and more useless.

If Nvidia or AMD was selling a SOC system with a premium gpu perf (4080/4090 level), with an included arm cpu system all-in-one, I would be glad to ditch my x86 cpu.

Gotta love synthetic benchmarks. It's like trying to compare vehicles for average MPG. It means little in the real world. What I do know as a long time Mac user is that Apple computers still suck badly at playing games, especially AAA titles. I laugh when I read about Mac users wondering why their overly expensive Mac struggles to play certain games that an Intel or AMD box has no trouble with.

People buy the best Nvidia and AMD GPU's primarily for the purpose of playing the latest AAA games at 4K 30-60FPS with all the graphical bells and whistles turned on. Nvidia and AMD GPU's are popular because they specialize primarily for graphics.

 

[Notton]

Is the article referring to the global market or US only?

I can understand CPU sales being up. The R7 9800X3D is selling so well, I can't find stock of it anywhere in the world.
Gaming dGPU sales are down because people are waiting for the RTX 50 and RX 8000 series, but they aren't arriving until 25'Q1, unlike what was expected with a 24'Q4 launch.

 

[Giroro]

It's a bad idea to combine iGPU and dGPU sales together

 

[usertests]

It's a bad idea to combine iGPU and dGPU sales together

Yup, it's a nonsense number. Intel likes it though.

 

[prtskg]

Is the article referring to the global market or US only?

I can understand CPU sales being up. The R7 9800X3D is selling so well, I can't find stock of it anywhere in the world.
Gaming dGPU sales are down because people are waiting for the RTX 50 and RX 8000 series, but they aren't arriving until 25'Q1, unlike what was expected with a 24'Q4 launch.

This is for global market. Most of the sales are dominated by OEMs buying from manufacturers. Correlating these data with DIY market may result in wrong conclusion.

 

[User of Computers]

This is for global market. Most of the sales are dominated by OEMs buying from manufacturers. Correlating these data with DIY market may result in wrong conclusion.

^^^ this. DIY numbers are around 1% of all PC components sold.