DNS/Intranet Help

[SALMAN]

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Hello,

I have intranet running on my netwok. The problem is that
when the internet goes down, my intranet doesnt work
either. Everything is connected to the same LAN but still
when the internet going down my DNS server doesnt respond
to the intranet request that it gets from the
workstantion.

Do you know if there is some setting that i need to add o
change to make my DNS to reslove to the incoming request
on the intranet even when the internet is not working.

Thank you.

DNS/Intranet Help

 

[Guest]

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Running AD? Make sure alll servers and workstations specify *only* the
internal AD-integrated DNS server's IP address in their network settings.
The AD-integrated DNS server should be set up with forwarders to your ISP's
DNS servers for external resolution. See
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;300202 for more
info.

Salman wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have intranet running on my netwok. The problem is that
> when the internet goes down, my intranet doesnt work
> either. Everything is connected to the same LAN but still
> when the internet going down my DNS server doesnt respond
> to the intranet request that it gets from the
> workstantion.
>
> Do you know if there is some setting that i need to add o
> change to make my DNS to reslove to the incoming request
> on the intranet even when the internet is not working.
>
> Thank you.
>
> DNS/Intranet Help

 

[SALMAN]

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Yes i am running AD and all my workstations are pointing
to my internal DNS servers.

I dont have any forwarders setup right now and the
internet still works. I am not sure how our clients are
connecting to the internet without the DNS forwareders?

I looked at the DNS Cache and it has all the external
websites that are visited listed, but i dont understand
how we can connecting to them?



>-----Original Message-----
>Running AD? Make sure alll servers and workstations
specify *only* the
>internal AD-integrated DNS server's IP address in their
network settings.
>The AD-integrated DNS server should be set up with
forwarders to your ISP's
>DNS servers for external resolution. See
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;300202 for more
>info.
>
>Salman wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have intranet running on my netwok. The problem is
that
>> when the internet goes down, my intranet doesnt work
>> either. Everything is connected to the same LAN but
still
>> when the internet going down my DNS server doesnt
respond
>> to the intranet request that it gets from the
>> workstantion.
>>
>> Do you know if there is some setting that i need to
add o
>> change to make my DNS to reslove to the incoming
request
>> on the intranet even when the internet is not working.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> DNS/Intranet Help
>
>
>.
>

 

[Guest]

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salman wrote:
> Yes i am running AD and all my workstations are pointing
> to my internal DNS servers.
>
> I dont have any forwarders setup right now and the
> internet still works. I am not sure how our clients are
> connecting to the internet without the DNS forwareders?

Root hints - but I'd use your ISP's DNS servers. It's faster.
>
> I looked at the DNS Cache and it has all the external
> websites that are visited listed, but i dont understand
> how we can connecting to them?
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Running AD? Make sure alll servers and workstations specify *only*
>> the internal AD-integrated DNS server's IP address in their network
>> settings. The AD-integrated DNS server should be set up with
>> forwarders to your ISP's DNS servers for external resolution. See
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en- us;300202 for
>> more info.
>>
>> Salman wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have intranet running on my netwok. The problem is that
>>> when the internet goes down, my intranet doesnt work
>>> either. Everything is connected to the same LAN but still
>>> when the internet going down my DNS server doesnt respond
>>> to the intranet request that it gets from the
>>> workstantion.
>>>
>>> Do you know if there is some setting that i need to add o
>>> change to make my DNS to reslove to the incoming request
>>> on the intranet even when the internet is not working.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> DNS/Intranet Help
>>
>>
>> .

 

[SALMAN]

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Should i remove all root hints and then add forwards???
I am not sure what root hints do?
If i do a tracert on www.yahoo.com, it goes straight to
my gateway's ip address and then goes out to the
internet. It doesnt even go through my DNS servers? How
can i make all internet and Intranet request to go
through my DNS server first and if it does reslove then
forward it to my ISP's DNS server.

Salman
>-----Original Message-----
>salman wrote:
>> Yes i am running AD and all my workstations are
pointing
>> to my internal DNS servers.
>>
>> I dont have any forwarders setup right now and the
>> internet still works. I am not sure how our clients are
>> connecting to the internet without the DNS forwareders?
>
>Root hints - but I'd use your ISP's DNS servers. It's
faster.
>>
>> I looked at the DNS Cache and it has all the external
>> websites that are visited listed, but i dont understand
>> how we can connecting to them?
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> Running AD? Make sure alll servers and workstations
specify *only*
>>> the internal AD-integrated DNS server's IP address in
their network
>>> settings. The AD-integrated DNS server should be set
up with
>>> forwarders to your ISP's DNS servers for external
resolution. See
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;300202 for
>>> more info.
>>>
>>> Salman wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I have intranet running on my netwok. The problem is
that
>>>> when the internet goes down, my intranet doesnt work
>>>> either. Everything is connected to the same LAN but
still
>>>> when the internet going down my DNS server doesnt
respond
>>>> to the intranet request that it gets from the
>>>> workstantion.
>>>>
>>>> Do you know if there is some setting that i need to
add o
>>>> change to make my DNS to reslove to the incoming
request
>>>> on the intranet even when the internet is not
working.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> DNS/Intranet Help
>>>
>>>
>>> .
>
>
>.
>

 

[Guest]

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In news:0ca601c47b2b$58f94d80$a301280a@phx.gbl,
Salman <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote their comments
Then Kevin replied below:
> Should i remove all root hints and then add forwards???
> I am not sure what root hints do?
> If i do a tracert on www.yahoo.com, it goes straight to
> my gateway's ip address and then goes out to the
> internet. It doesnt even go through my DNS servers? How
> can i make all internet and Intranet request to go
> through my DNS server first and if it does reslove then
> forward it to my ISP's DNS server.

Leave the Root Hints, the root hints are servers on the internet that know
where the Top level Domain DNS servers are. If your ISP's DNS becomes
overloaded or if you don't have forwarders enabled you DNS will get a
referral from the Root Hint servers to the TLD servers where it will be able
to find the second level domain name your looking for. IOW, for example.com
the root will send you to the com gTLD servers, which should know where the
example.com content DNS servers are.

That being said, DNS does not take part in routing, DNS only delivers the IP
address to the client. The routing software does the rest. and that's what
tracert shows.
All you need to do is put your DNS server in your client settings. The fact
the when you tracert www.yahoo.com and it goes to the IP address of
www.yahoo.com tells you that DNS is doing its job, if it wasn't, you'd get
host unknown.

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Salman wrote:
> Should i remove all root hints and then add forwards???

No need to remove the root hints. Just add the forwarder.

> I am not sure what root hints do?

See if http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;300202 helps...

> If i do a tracert on www.yahoo.com, it goes straight to
> my gateway's ip address and then goes out to the
> internet. It doesnt even go through my DNS servers?

No, it first looks it up via DNS for resolution. The *traffic* goes out
through your default gateway.

> How
> can i make all internet and Intranet request to go
> through my DNS server first and if it does reslove then
> forward it to my ISP's DNS server.

That's what the forwarder is for. If all computers & servers point to your
AD DNS server, they will first look internally, and if they don't find it
there, they'll use the forwarder & try to resolve via that DNS server.

>
> Salman
>> -----Original Message-----
>> salman wrote:
>>> Yes i am running AD and all my workstations are pointing
>>> to my internal DNS servers.
>>>
>>> I dont have any forwarders setup right now and the
>>> internet still works. I am not sure how our clients are
>>> connecting to the internet without the DNS forwareders?
>>
>> Root hints - but I'd use your ISP's DNS servers. It's faster.
>>>
>>> I looked at the DNS Cache and it has all the external
>>> websites that are visited listed, but i dont understand
>>> how we can connecting to them?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> Running AD? Make sure alll servers and workstations specify *only*
>>>> the internal AD-integrated DNS server's IP address in their network
>>>> settings. The AD-integrated DNS server should be set up with
>>>> forwarders to your ISP's DNS servers for external resolution. See
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en- us;300202 for
>>>> more info.
>>>>
>>>> Salman wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have intranet running on my netwok. The problem is that
>>>>> when the internet goes down, my intranet doesnt work
>>>>> either. Everything is connected to the same LAN but still
>>>>> when the internet going down my DNS server doesnt respond
>>>>> to the intranet request that it gets from the
>>>>> workstantion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you know if there is some setting that i need to add o
>>>>> change to make my DNS to reslove to the incoming request
>>>>> on the intranet even when the internet is not working.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> DNS/Intranet Help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> .
>>
>>
>> .

 

[SALMAN]

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win2000.dns (More info?)

O.K now i understand how DNS and Root hints work. Thank
you for your help. But there is still one more thing that
i dont understand.

If i dont have fowarders already setup how can i connect
to the internet and should all intranet request be
processed anyways?

Salman


>-----Original Message-----
>In news:0ca601c47b2b$58f94d80$a301280a@phx.gbl,
>Salman <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote their
comments
>Then Kevin replied below:
>> Should i remove all root hints and then add forwards???
>> I am not sure what root hints do?
>> If i do a tracert on www.yahoo.com, it goes straight to
>> my gateway's ip address and then goes out to the
>> internet. It doesnt even go through my DNS servers? How
>> can i make all internet and Intranet request to go
>> through my DNS server first and if it does reslove then
>> forward it to my ISP's DNS server.
>
>Leave the Root Hints, the root hints are servers on the
internet that know
>where the Top level Domain DNS servers are. If your
ISP's DNS becomes
>overloaded or if you don't have forwarders enabled you
DNS will get a
>referral from the Root Hint servers to the TLD servers
where it will be able
>to find the second level domain name your looking for.
IOW, for example.com
>the root will send you to the com gTLD servers, which
should know where the
>example.com content DNS servers are.
>
>That being said, DNS does not take part in routing, DNS
only delivers the IP
>address to the client. The routing software does the
rest. and that's what
>tracert shows.
>All you need to do is put your DNS server in your client
settings. The fact
>the when you tracert www.yahoo.com and it goes to the IP
address of
>www.yahoo.com tells you that DNS is doing its job, if it
wasn't, you'd get
>host unknown.
>
>--
>Best regards,
>Kevin D4 Dad Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
>Hope This Helps
>================================================
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>
>
>.
>

 

[Guest]

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Salman wrote:
> O.K now i understand how DNS and Root hints work. Thank
> you for your help. But there is still one more thing that
> i dont understand.
>
> If i dont have fowarders already setup how can i connect
> to the internet

Connect, or resolve Internet domain names? For the former, well, it's your
default gateway/router. For the latter, root hints are doing their job. Just
set up the forwarders and be done with it.

> and should all intranet request be
> processed anyways?

Yes, if everyone's pointing at the AD DNS IP only, and no external/ISP DNS
servers are listed in their IP configs (for servers and workstations alike).


>
> Salman
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> In news:0ca601c47b2b$58f94d80$a301280a@phx.gbl,
>> Salman <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote their comments
>> Then Kevin replied below:
>>> Should i remove all root hints and then add forwards???
>>> I am not sure what root hints do?
>>> If i do a tracert on www.yahoo.com, it goes straight to
>>> my gateway's ip address and then goes out to the
>>> internet. It doesnt even go through my DNS servers? How
>>> can i make all internet and Intranet request to go
>>> through my DNS server first and if it does reslove then
>>> forward it to my ISP's DNS server.
>>
>> Leave the Root Hints, the root hints are servers on the internet
>> that know where the Top level Domain DNS servers are. If your
> ISP's DNS becomes
>> overloaded or if you don't have forwarders enabled you DNS will get a
>> referral from the Root Hint servers to the TLD servers where it will
>> be able to find the second level domain name your looking for. IOW,
>> for example.com the root will send you to the com gTLD servers,
>> which should know where the example.com content DNS servers are.
>>
>> That being said, DNS does not take part in routing, DNS only
>> delivers the IP address to the client. The routing software does the
>> rest. and that's what tracert shows.
>> All you need to do is put your DNS server in your client settings.
>> The fact the when you tracert www.yahoo.com and it goes to the IP
>> address of www.yahoo.com tells you that DNS is doing its job, if it
>> wasn't, you'd get host unknown.
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Kevin D4 Dad Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
>> Hope This Helps
>> ================================================
>> --
>> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group"
>> via your newsreader so that others may learn and
>> benefit from your issue, to respond directly to
>> me remove the nospam. from my email address.
>> ================================================
>> http://www.lonestaramerica.com/
>> ================================================
>> Use Outlook Express?... Get OE_Quotefix:
>> It will strip signature out and more
>> http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
>> ================================================
>> Keep a back up of your OE settings and folders
>> with OEBackup:
>> http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
>> ================================================
>>
>>
>> .