Question Do i have to buy another CPU or a GPU? (Low GPU% in games)

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DMAN999

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what processors do this MOB support? It says 1st and 2nd gen but what processors are 1 and 2 gen?

And i tihnk sockets is something you should know aswell?
I have an Asus ROG Strix B450-F as well and I have a 3700x installed in mine and it works Great.
You will just need to set the BIOS to Optimized Defaults and reboot then update the BIOS to version 2801 then install the 3700x and clear the CMOS.

You could even get a 3900x but I think that would probably be overkill.


And IMO, the problem with your PC right now is that you have BIOS 2704 which is optimized for a 3000 series CPU and you have a 2000 series CPU.
 
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kng8te

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I have an Asus ROG Strix B450-F as well and I have a 3700x installed in mine and it works Great.
You will just need to set the BIOS to Optimized Defaults and reboot then update the BIOS to version 2801 then install the 3700x and clear the CMOS.

You could even get a 3900x but I think that would probably be overkill.

I really appreciate the help you have given me.

Just 3 more questions.

Does my high EDC make my fps worse?
Why is it high? and it was like that when i got my PC without me doing something With my PC.
In all honesty, what processor would you choose for highend gaming?
 

DMAN999

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I really appreciate the help you have given me.

Just 3 more questions.

Does my high EDC make my fps worse?
Why is it high? and it was like that when i got my PC without me doing something With my PC.
In all honesty, what processor would you choose for highend gaming?
The EDC is just telling you how much current the CPU is drawing.
It should NOT be as high as it is at idle but when under load (like while gaming) I would expect it to go up to 80-90%.

IMO, the problem with your PC right now is that you have BIOS 2704 which is optimized for a 3000 series CPU and you have a 2000 series CPU.

Installing 3700x would the most cost effective solution for you and should get your fps up to where you thought it would be with the 2700x (100+ fps) in most games.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1b8j7NZ2vQ
 
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kng8te

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IMO, the problem with your PC right now is that you have BIOS 2704 which is optimized for a 3000 series CPU and you have a 2000 series CPU.
Installing 3700x would the most cost effective solution for you and should get your fps up to where you thought it would be with the 2700x (100+ fps) in most games.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1b8j7NZ2vQ

Can you choose the bios Version in the bios settings?
 

kng8te

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IMO, the problem with your PC right now is that you have BIOS 2704 which is optimized for a 3000 series CPU and you have a 2000 series CPU.
Installing 3700x would the most cost effective solution for you and should get your fps up to where you thought it would be with the 2700x (100+ fps) in most games.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1b8j7NZ2vQ

And why is the MOB supporting 3000 series better when they are 3rd gen? It says in descripton that it only supports 1st and 2nd gen?
 

DMAN999

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And why is the MB supporting 3000 series better when they are 3rd gen? It says in descripton that it only supports 1st and 2nd gen?
It is the BIOS version not the motherboard itself.
The Best BIOS version for a 2000 Series CPU for this motherboard is version 1201 which has AGESA 1.0.0.6 in it.
Every BIOS newer than 1201 was designed for Ryzen 3000 Series CPUs and do NOT work as well as BIOS 1201 does with a 2000 series CPU.

And if you look, the MB page has Ryzen 3000 Desktop Ready at the top right side of the page:

Can you choose the bios Version in the bios settings?
NO.
 
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kng8te

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It is the BIOS version not the motherboard itself.
The Best BIOS version for a 2000 Series CPU for this motherboard is version 1201 which has AGESA 1.0.0.6 in it.
Every BIOS newer than 1201 was designed for Ryzen 3000 Series CPUs and do NOT work as wel las BIOS 1201 does with a 2000 series CPU.

And if you look, the MB page has Ryzen 3000 Desktop Ready at the top right side of the page:


NO.

I will order one now.

So when i get it.

I have to set BIOS setting to default, then restart PC or did you mean reboot in reinstall Windows?
And then update to 2801 veriosn wich i Guess shows up as an option?
Then install the 3700x and Clear the CMOS With a screwdriver?
 

DMAN999

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You don't sound very confident with updating a BIOS so I would recommend that you don't do that.
BIOS 2704 (which you have) will work with a 3700x just fine for now.
So when you get the 3700x, go into the BIOS with the 2700x still installed and go to the EXIT tab and click Load Optimized Defaults and the OK (when it pops up).

Then do this:
  • Unplug the PC (PSU).
  • Then press the Power Button for at least 30 seconds.
  • Use a flat headed screwdriver to short the CLR CMOS (CLRTC) Jumper (Touch both jumper pins with the screwdriver) for at least 15 seconds.
  • Plug the PC back in.
  • Press the Power Button to turn the PC on.
  • Repeatedly tap the DEL key
  • A screen should come up telling you to press the F1 key, do that.
  • Set the Optimized Default settings and Press OK (this is on the EXIT tab)
  • Save and exit the BIOS.
Then Unplug the PC and carefully remove the CPU cooler and the 2700x.
Then install the 3700x and it's Cooler and go into the BIOS again and Load Optimized Defaults again and then Save Change and Reset (reboot).
 

kng8te

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You don't sound very confident with updating a BIOS so I would recommend that you don't do that.
BIOS 2704 (which you have) will work with a 3700x just fine for now.
So when you get the 3700x, go into the BIOS with the 2700x still installed and go to the EXIT tab and click Load Optimized Defaults and the OK (when it pops up).

Then do this:
  • Unplug the PC (PSU).
  • Then press the Power Button for at least 30 seconds.
  • Use a flat headed screwdriver to short the CLR CMOS (CLRTC) Jumper (Touch both jumper pins with the screwdriver) for at least 15 seconds.
  • Plug the PC back in.
  • Press the Power Button to turn the PC on.
  • Repeatedly tap the DEL key
  • A screen should come up telling you to press the F1 key, do that.
  • Set the Optimized Default settings and Press OK (this is on the EXIT tab)
  • Save and exit the BIOS.
Then Unplug the PC and carefully remove the CPU cooler and the 2700x.
Then install the 3700x and it's Cooler and go into the BIOS again and Load Optimized Defaults again and then Save Change and Reset (reboot).

Thanks alot DMAN999

I have high hopes when i get My new 16gb 3200mhz RAM and Ryzen 3700x

It was a huge fps diffrence between 2700x and 3700x on Rust.

2700x with a 2060 card has around 70fps while the 3700x was up at 120~
 
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kng8te

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I have an Asus ROG Strix B450-F as well and I have a 3700x installed in mine and it works Great.
You will just need to set the BIOS to Optimized Defaults and reboot then update the BIOS to version 2801 then install the 3700x and clear the CMOS.

You could even get a 3900x but I think that would probably be overkill.


And IMO, the problem with your PC right now is that you have BIOS 2704 which is optimized for a 3000 series CPU and you have a 2000 series CPU.

Hi man, i installed the cpu, now my PC isnt starting up at all. I updated to 2801 before i set back to default and its not showing any signs og life
 

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Any power or lights all?
Yes, now when i took it out again and putted IT back, the lights and fan came on. I didnt put the cooler on this time because i wasnt sure it was gonna start but it did and it got hot pretty fast and the computer turnes itself off. Now it comes on but fan dosent start and the screen is black.

Should i clear the power again?
 

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Yes, now when i took it out again and putted IT back, the lights and fan came on. I didnt put the cooler on this time because i wasnt sure it was gonna start but it did and it got hot pretty fast and the computer turnes itself off. Now it comes on but fan dosent start and the screen is black.

Should i clear the power again?
Reset CMOS, or else load optimized settings again. If it didnt help, I think something is wronf somewhere else

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DMAN999

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Try clearing the CMOS again like this:
Unplug the PC (PSU).
Then press the Power Button for at least 30 seconds.
Use a flat headed screwdriver to short the CLR CMOS (CLRTC) Jumper (Touch both jumper pins with the screwdriver) for at least 15 seconds.
Plug the PC back in.
Press the Power Button to turn the PC on.
Repeatedly tap the DEL key
A screen should come up telling you to press the F1 key, do that.
Set the Optimized Default settings and Press OK (this is on the EXIT tab)
Save and exit the BIOS.

I had to clear the CMOS on mine 3 or 4 times when I was OCing my 2600 and my RAM.
So it might take a few times before everything is fully cleared out
Also I would only install 1 stick of RAM in Slot A2 (2nd from the CPU).
If it boots with just the one stick of RAM then shutdown and install the second stick in slot B2.
 

kng8te

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Crosslhs82x2 makes a good point.
If the Cooler is over tightened it can cause issues with Memory Controller on the CPU not recognizing the RAM.

Ok so ive cleard the cmos 2 times now, now the fans on my GPU are going wild. But all the lights and other fans are working. But no light in my keyboard or mouse. And screen is still black
 

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