do I need a high tier psu?

[_Thomas_]

hello, I am currently building a gaming pc. It will probebly have a gtx 780ti (I am currently contacting a seller wich has one for sale for only €100) and a pentium g3258 (wich I am buying from my nephew for €35, he has never overclocked it and it is in good contition) but I will probebly buy a i5 or i7 later on.
now comes the question: should I get a k or non k i5 or i7 later on and should I get a hier tier psu to go with it for the overclocking? I am also looking to oc the 780ti although I would first have to see what the stock temps are on mine.

 

[kanewolf]

A high quality power supply is ALWAYS a good idea. A Seasonic 500 to 600W would be fine. No need to go for higher wattage. I think you have the model of the CPU wrong. Is it a G3258 ?

 

[boosted1g]

k or not k on cpu that is up to you, depending on if you want to overclock.
Used K serries are always a dice roll because you never have any idea how abused they where.

The g3258 is only a dual core cpu so it is going to bottleneck hard on anything cpu intensive. People would rave over these becasue they could overclock as high as in i7, but in most games it is the core count not the clock speed that matters more.

In regards to your primary question, you should always buy a decent quality PSU for a gaming system.
You cant get a stable overclock with a cheap psu, and even worse the low tier ones are a high probability for frying your parts.

 

[bjornl]

The g3258 is only a dual core cpu so it is going to bottleneck hard on anything cpu intensive. People would rave over these becasue they could overclock as high as in i7, but in most games it is the core count not the clock speed that matters more.

This is opposite day? Because the truth is the opposite of what you wrote. I don't particularly like these dual cores (I do a lot of multi-threaded things), but for game play it is clock speed of the first core (and in some cases the first two cores) that has the biggest impact on game play. Almost no games benefit from high core counts.

To the OP:
PSU
A good quality PSU is always a good idea. It is a good idea with or without overclocking. It is one of the most important components in a PC.

CPU
The K versions are faster. If you want to overclock budget for an overclocking friendly motherboard as well. If you don't, just compare some reviews and figure out what performance you are willing to pay for.

 

[boosted1g]

This is opposite day? Because the truth is the opposite of what you wrote. I don't particularly like these dual cores (I do a lot of multi-threaded things), but for game play it is clock speed of the first core (and in some cases the first two cores) that has the biggest impact on game play. Almost no games benefit from high core counts.

Should have been more specific. On CPU intensive games the core count is the much more important aspect. Games like BF1 will play much better on an i7 OC to 3.8 ghz vs a 3258 OC to 4.0 ghz.

 

[MicroT]

This is opposite day? Because the truth is the opposite of what you wrote. I don't particularly like these dual cores (I do a lot of multi-threaded things), but for game play it is clock speed of the first core (and in some cases the first two cores) that has the biggest impact on game play. Almost no games benefit from high core counts.

Should have been more specific. On CPU intensive games the core count is the much more important aspect. Games like BF1 will play much better on an i7 OC to 3.8 ghz vs a 3258 OC to 4.0 ghz.

The important aspect differs among the age of the cpu. For Gaming the single threaded performance (one core) is the most important, older cpus are not made with as good single threaded performance even if they are a higher clock. Clock speeds are not "Higher is always better" again single threaded performance (Which is influenced by clock speed but also many other factors) is most important. Newer games such as bf1 utilise more cores hence a higher core count is better but only if the single threaded performance is good. EG. a Pentium G4560 (Dual core, 4 threads at 3.5GHz) Can play bf1 at 45+ fps on medium with a rx 480 however an amd athlon quad core cpu (overclocked at 4.2ghz) can barely handle 30fps.

My adive to the creator of the thread is save up for an i5/i7 but if you want a system short term then ok. Quad core will be more useful in newer titles that can utilise it. If you want to overclock the cpu get a k i5/i7, otherwise get a non k. you dont necessarily need a high tier psu but a god quality one is recommended. Go here for the tier lists: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

I suggest going no lower than tier 3 but if you really are low on cash tier 4 is the lowest you should go and do not attempt any overclocking on them.

 

[sebastianpalm7]

hello, I am currently building a gaming pc. It will probebly have a gtx 780ti (I am currently contacting a seller wich has one for sale for only €100) and a pentium g2358 (wich I am buying from my nephew for €35, he has never overclocked it and it is in good contition) but I will probebly buy a i5 or i7 later on.
now comes the question: should I get a k or non k i5 or i7 later on and should I get a hier tier psu to go with it for the overclocking? I am also looking to oc the 780ti although I would first have to see what the stock temps are on mine.

I shop by warranty length above pretty much all else - if a reputable company is willing to stake that reputation on a ten year warranty for a PSU, then that's probably the PSU to get. Because in the end, buying the ten year warranty PSU can only save you money, as it is literally *guaranteed* to last you through at least one rebuild (assuming you do it every five years), possibly more, before its warranty will expire.

And they're not actually even the most expensive options. The Corsair RM550x and the Seasonic FOCUS Plus 550W are both in the middle of the pack for 550W PSUs at the local computer store, price-wise, but they both come with a ten year warranty. The cheaper models come with as little as three years, and some of the most ridiculously expensive ones only have five.

 

[SumTingW0ng]

Seasonic, SuperFlower, or EVGA G2 series is a good power supply. I owned EVGA G2 850W over a year now with no issue at all plus 10 years warranty. Just a little fact Seasonic made EVGA G2 power supply series.

Here is the list of good and bad power supply from Johnny Lucky.

Bad Power Supply List: http://www.johnnylucky.org/power-supplies/psu-lemon-list.html

Good Power Supply List: http://www.johnnylucky.org/power-supplies/psu-recommendations.html

 

[_Thomas_]

Thank you all so much for your awnsers. Sorry for my late reply btw I didn't have e-mail notifications on. I ended up buying a thermaltake smart rgb 600w because it was in sale around black friday. It has more then enough juice for my system (wich ended up with a gtx 970 because the 780ti guy ended up being a scammer) and has a 5 year warranty. It is probebly not the best psu but in europe powersupplies seem to be way more expensive then in the us so this was the best I could get on my budget.

 

[_Thomas_]

A high quality power supply is ALWAYS a good idea. A Seasonic 500 to 600W would be fine. No need to go for higher wattage. I think you have the model of the CPU wrong. Is it a G3258 ?

yeah I ment the g3258, thanks

 

[_Thomas_]

This is opposite day? Because the truth is the opposite of what you wrote. I don't particularly like these dual cores (I do a lot of multi-threaded things), but for game play it is clock speed of the first core (and in some cases the first two cores) that has the biggest impact on game play. Almost no games benefit from high core counts.

Should have been more specific. On CPU intensive games the core count is the much more important aspect. Games like BF1 will play much better on an i7 OC to 3.8 ghz vs a 3258 OC to 4.0 ghz.

The important aspect differs among the age of the cpu. For Gaming the single threaded performance (one core) is the most important, older cpus are not made with as good single threaded performance even if they are a higher clock. Clock speeds are not "Higher is always better" again single threaded performance (Which is influenced by clock speed but also many other factors) is most important. Newer games such as bf1 utilise more cores hence a higher core count is better but only if the single threaded performance is good. EG. a Pentium G4560 (Dual core, 4 threads at 3.5GHz) Can play bf1 at 45+ fps on medium with a rx 480 however an amd athlon quad core cpu (overclocked at 4.2ghz) can barely handle 30fps.

My adive to the creator of the thread is save up for an i5/i7 but if you want a system short term then ok. Quad core will be more useful in newer titles that can utilise it. If you want to overclock the cpu get a k i5/i7, otherwise get a non k. you dont necessarily need a high tier psu but a god quality one is recommended. Go here for the tier lists: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

I suggest going no lower than tier 3 but if you really are low on cash tier 4 is the lowest you should go and do not attempt any overclocking on them.

The g3258 is just for now, I hope I can upgrade it in a year or so