[SOLVED] Do i need any changes with current planned builts ? Is intel built better or the AMD?

[horse egg]

Like the question i have researched and finalised these 2 builts. i have a case already which is
Thermaltake Core V71 Powercover Edition
Rmx 750w Corsair Power Supply
The builts i have planned according to my budget are listed below:

AMD
Processor: AMD Ryzen 3700X https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QKJtt6/amd-ryzen-7-3700x-36-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000071box
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dm...tx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi
RAM: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8B...-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-32gis

INTEL
Processor: Core I7-9700k
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WtyV3C/intel-core-i7-9700k-36ghz-8-core-processor-bx80684i79700k
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Pro Carbon
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p2...ga1151-motherboard-mpg-z390-gaming-pro-carbon
RAM: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mc...b-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-16gis

I can go for 3800x with AMD.
Do i need any improvement with AMD or INTEL current builds?
I just want to have a pc that will last for next 5 years or so.
Which one would be better choice?

 

[jeremyj_83]

Like the question i have researched and finalised these 2 builts. i have a case already which is
Thermaltake Core V71 Powercover Edition
Rmx 750w Corsair Power Supply
The builts i have planned according to my budget are listed below:

AMD
Processor: AMD Ryzen 3700X https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QKJtt6/amd-ryzen-7-3700x-36-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000071box
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dm...tx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi
RAM: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8B...-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-32gis

INTEL
Processor: Core I7-9700k
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WtyV3C/intel-core-i7-9700k-36ghz-8-core-processor-bx80684i79700k
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Pro Carbon
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p2...ga1151-motherboard-mpg-z390-gaming-pro-carbon
RAM: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mc...b-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-16gis

I can go for 3800x with AMD.
Do i need any improvement with AMD or INTEL current builds?
I just want to have a pc that will last for next 5 years or so.
Which one would be better choice?

I think for the next 5 years the AMD system will be better. You will have identical gaming performance between the 2 but the AMD will have better performance in productivity software. Software that can use more than 8 threads will be much faster on the AMD due to the 16 threads. What CPU cooler are you wanting to use?

 

[horse egg]

I think for the next 5 years the AMD system will be better. You will have identical gaming performance between the 2 but the AMD will have better performance in productivity software. Software that can use more than 8 threads will be much faster on the AMD due to the 16 threads. What CPU cooler are you wanting to use?

So far i have planned on going with the cooler that comes with AMD Wraith-Prism.
But i have this in mind
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Jbm323/arctic-freezer-34-esports-duo-cpu-cooler-acfre00062a

Do you think going for 3800x from 3700x is worth the money? and if the difference is considerable?

 

[R_1]

for a 3rd generation AMD get at least 3600MHZ ram, faster if you overclock or plan to.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-3800X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X/4047vs4043
for the gist, your mileage will vary, but you get the idea.
the 9700 is @ 9% faster depending on workload, the 3700x is the way to go, IMHO.

 

[jeremyj_83]

So far i have planned on going with the cooler that comes with AMD Wraith-Prism.
But i have this in mind
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Jbm323/arctic-freezer-34-esports-duo-cpu-cooler-acfre00062a

Do you think going for 3800x from 3700x is worth the money? and if the difference is considerable?

The arctic freezer that you linked is a good cooler. This is also a good one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zLbCmG/be-quiet-shadow-rock-3-cpu-cooler-bk004

Both of those will be plenty for the AMD systems.

 

[jeremyj_83]

for a 3rd generation AMD get at least 3600MHZ ram, faster if you overclock or plan to.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-3800X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X/4047vs4043
for the gist, your mileage will vary, but you get the idea.
the 9700 is @ 9% faster depending on workload, the 3700x is the way to go, IMHO.

You really don't want to go over 3733MHz as then you have to change your Infinity Fabric ratio to 2:1. 3600MHz will give the best performance, but we are talking about up to 5%. You will get the best performance having 4 Ranks of RAM, 2x16GB or 4x8GB for example. https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-3000-best-memory-timings,6310.html

 

[horse egg]

You really don't want to go over 3733MHz as then you have to change your Infinity Fabric ratio to 2:1. 3600MHz will give the best performance, but we are talking about up to 5%. You will get the best performance having 4 Ranks of RAM, 2x16GB or 4x8GB for example. https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-3000-best-memory-timings,6310.html

Got it. So the ram i have in mind is good to go with the AMD system or would you suggest another one?? and do i need to upgrade to 3800x or just stick to 3700x?
Thanks for fast response.

 

[horse egg]

for a 3rd generation AMD get at least 3600MHZ ram, faster if you overclock or plan to.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-3800X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X/4047vs4043
for the gist, your mileage will vary, but you get the idea.
the 9700 is @ 9% faster depending on workload, the 3700x is the way to go, IMHO.

Which ram you suggest i should get?
Its been a while since i built a pc quite a few years.
And thanks alot for the replies and helping out.

 

[jeremyj_83]

Which ram you suggest i should get?
Its been a while since i built a pc quite a few years.
And thanks alot for the replies and helping out.

Best RAM performance would be with these: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zc...2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gvkc Your performance will be about 2-5% faster for $20, which isn't bad. Going with the 3800X vs 3700X will get up to 5%, especially on tasks that all the CPU to stay at higher boosts due to the 105W TDP vs 65W TDP.

 

[horse egg]

Best RAM performance would be with these: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zc...2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gvkc Your performance will be about 2-5% faster for $20, which isn't bad. Going with the 3800X vs 3700X will get up to 5%, especially on tasks that all the CPU to stay at higher boosts due to the 105W TDP vs 65W TDP.

So this looks fine for next 5 years.
Processor: Amd Ryzen 3800x
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard
Ram:G.Skill Ripjaws 32gigs Ddr4-3600Mhz
Cooler: Shadow Rock Or Arctic Freezer 34 (Either One)

One thing is it worth spending more on 3800x? Whats your take on it?

 

[EndEffeKt_24]

So this looks fine for next 5 years.
Processor: Amd Ryzen 3800x
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard
Ram:G.Skill Ripjaws 32gigs Ddr4-3600Mhz
Cooler: Shadow Rock Or Arctic Freezer 34 (Either One)

One thing is it worth spending more on 3800x? Whats your take on it?

I would not spent more than 20$ extra for the 3800x.

 

[horse egg]

I would not spent more than 20$ extra for the 3800x.

Hmm that clears it up a bit. Thanks bro<3

 

[cryoburner]

Am I missing anything about a graphics card here? What graphics card do you plan on using? And is this for a gaming build? If so, what resolution and refresh rate is the monitor you will be using?

 

[horse egg]

Am I missing anything about a graphics card here? What graphics card do you plan on using? And is this for a gaming build? If so, what resolution and refresh rate is the monitor you will be using?

I have graphics card already Msi Rm 480 Gaming X 8 gb currently. But i plan to upgrade it to 1070 in future. Since its working fine so far I will be using in future 4k resolution. Its mostly for gaming and video edition rendering.
Games like Witcher 3, Red Dead Redemption 2, Rocket League or battlefields or black ops etc.
Softwares like adobe After effects Photoshop and power director.

 

[jeremyj_83]

I have graphics card already Msi Rm 480 Gaming X 8 gb currently. But i plan to upgrade it to 1070 in future. Since its working fine so far I will be using in future 4k resolution. Its mostly for gaming and video edition rendering.
Games like Witcher 3, Red Dead Redemption 2, Rocket League or battlefields or black ops etc.
Softwares like adobe After effects Photoshop and power director.

I wouldn't go with a 1070 at this point. Like the 480 it is older tech and you can get a lot more performance for your money going with something newer.

 

[horse egg]

I wouldn't go with a 1070 at this point. Like the 480 it is older tech and you can get a lot more performance for your money going with something newer.

I will be getting the newer one withing few months.
Which one you think i should get for like 350$ or 400$?

 

[jeremyj_83]

At $350-$400 you are looking at a 2060 Super or a 5700XT. The 5700XT is about 10% faster on average, the 2060 Super has a lower power draw.

 

[horse egg]

2060

I will go with AMD built.
I think 5700XT ill buy it after few months so it gives me more time to research some more on it.
Thanks and appreciate all the help and time.