I want to move my verizon fios router (only one box) to a different room. The room it is currently in has a coax that is connected to the router. The new room has no coax but has a telephone plug but can fit an ethernet cable. Do i need to have coax or can I have the router with out coax and just plugged into the wall or will I need to plug it into that telephone plug looking thing?
Do I need coax or cat 5 or neither?
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The connection to the router is coax.
You must continue to use coax.
Now if the "telephone plug looking thing" is indeed an Ethernet jack then you may be able to leave the original router in place and connect it via an Ethernet cable into your home's network wiring that leads to an Ethernet wall jack in the desired room.
The requirement being that each room has an Ethernet wall jack going back to a patch panel where you can connect your home's network devices.
Telephone jacks (RJ-11) will not work - basic telephone service only needs a pair of wires (usually green and red for telephones). Ethernet is RJ-45 and needs at least 2 pairs of wires to work. Newer standards use four pairs incorporating all eight wires.
Example link:
http://carlplant.me/network-wiring-diagram.html/how-to-install-an-ethernet-jack-for-a-home-network-readingrat-net-brilliant-wiring-diagram
Key being to determine if your residence truly has Ethernet ports in each room or if those ports are only telephone.
You must continue to use coax.
Now if the "telephone plug looking thing" is indeed an Ethernet jack then you may be able to leave the original router in place and connect it via an Ethernet cable into your home's network wiring that leads to an Ethernet wall jack in the desired room.
The requirement being that each room has an Ethernet wall jack going back to a patch panel where you can connect your home's network devices.
Telephone jacks (RJ-11) will not work - basic telephone service only needs a pair of wires (usually green and red for telephones). Ethernet is RJ-45 and needs at least 2 pairs of wires to work. Newer standards use four pairs incorporating all eight wires.
Example link:
http://carlplant.me/network-wiring-diagram.html/how-to-install-an-ethernet-jack-for-a-home-network-readingrat-net-brilliant-wiring-diagram
Key being to determine if your residence truly has Ethernet ports in each room or if those ports are only telephone.
I know that in the new room I have telephone jacks and one that fits and ethernet cable. I know which one is the telephone jack because the ethernet cable doesn't plug into those telephone jacks but plugs into the "ethernet jack".
What I understand from what you said is that all I need is the ethernet jack for the router to work properly. If that it incorrect please say so. I am asking this because I am building a pc and would like to use ethernet instead of wifi and I need to move the router in order to this because where my router is, is not a place where I am able to place my pc. The only room with this "ethernet jack" is the new room. There is no other room with this jack. Also in the model it shows a voice and data module. I do not have one of those. If I do, then it is probably in my garage and not an optimal solution for my house as the new room is going to be in the center ish of the house for the rest of the people to use wifi.
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I also have Verizon FiOS.
If your Verizon box has only coax going in, then you must use coax. That coax cable contains both your internet signal, and TV is you also have Verizon TV.
And that coax must link back to the ONT, wherever that may be. In the garage or basement, maybe.
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Generally the connectivity is similar to the following line diagram:
ISP -----coax ----> Modem ----Ethernet cable --->[WAN Port] Router [LAN Ports] ------Ethernet patch cables----> Patch Panel ports ---Ethernet cables ----> Individual room Ethernet wall ports ----- Ethernet cable ---> PC (or other network device).
The modem and router may be combined.
And if the router (or modem/router) is wireless capable then the need for individual room Ethernet wall jacks becomes moot provided that the distances and environment do not interfere with the wireless signals.
Powerline adapters may be another option for you. Depends on the home's electrical layout - hopefully all networked devices being on the same circuit.
If there are indeed, room Ethernet wall jacks you should be able to find the source patch panel.
Hopefully the installer labeled the jacks or left some diagram indicating which patch panel ports serve which rooms.
Follow the wiring and sketch things out.
ISP -----coax ----> Modem ----Ethernet cable --->[WAN Port] Router [LAN Ports] ------Ethernet patch cables----> Patch Panel ports ---Ethernet cables ----> Individual room Ethernet wall ports ----- Ethernet cable ---> PC (or other network device).
The modem and router may be combined.
And if the router (or modem/router) is wireless capable then the need for individual room Ethernet wall jacks becomes moot provided that the distances and environment do not interfere with the wireless signals.
Powerline adapters may be another option for you. Depends on the home's electrical layout - hopefully all networked devices being on the same circuit.
If there are indeed, room Ethernet wall jacks you should be able to find the source patch panel.
Hopefully the installer labeled the jacks or left some diagram indicating which patch panel ports serve which rooms.
Follow the wiring and sketch things out.
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With FiOS, you can have either coax from the ONT to the STB and the router/gateway, or coax to the STB and Cat5e to the router/gateway.
The default install is just coax.
Having Cat5e requires that Verizon enable that function in the ONT.
Whatever coax you connect to the router/gateway must connect back to the ONT somehow.
Ok so I opened the ONT or whatever this is to show the type of wiring because it may help you. I have no idea what cable is going into the box on the second picture or where it is going. The room where I think there is an ethernet jack is on the opposite side of the wall north of the box on the second picture. Please I need to know if my thing requires a coax or not. Btw the coax cable I currently use is black and I followed it and it is coming from the attic.
1st:
https://imgur.com/a/j09KH
2nd:
https://imgur.com/a/LdIvC
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OK, that's not like any FiOS install I've seen. I'm not sure what that smaller box in the second pic is.
In the second pic, where does that white cable go to? That's what you need to determine.
It 'appears' to be an ethernet cable.
What type of cable do you have going IN to your router? Which Verizon router is it?
In the second pic, where does that white cable go to? That's what you need to determine.
It 'appears' to be an ethernet cable.
What type of cable do you have going IN to your router? Which Verizon router is it?
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If all you have coming IN to the router is a coax cable, then your installation is not enabled for ethernet from the ONT to everything else.
You need a coax cable coming in to the router.
In your first picture, what is that? From that angle, I have no idea.
Next question...why are you wanting to move the router? Maybe there is another solution.
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