[SOLVED] Do I need to buy X570?

hermtm2

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I plan to build a brand new system for calculating big Excel data which have more than 100,000 rows so far and it gets bigger and bigger every month.


My budget is around $1,300 (up to $1,500). After reviewing several articles through Google, the more cores and threads would give better performance to Excel. Thus, I decide to buy the Ryzen 7 3700X CPU, but the mainboard is still unclear.



Do I really need to buy the X570 board?

Or are X470 / B450 enough for me?


Can you help me out?
 
With a b450/x470 board, compatibility out of the box is a hit and miss. Id the board is from a latest batch, it might have the BIOS already updated. If not, you have to arrange for a earlier gen. Ryzen to update BIOS for 3rd gen. compatibility, by either contacting the seller, or taking it to a pc store or contacting AMD for a loaner... https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-100

Something like this should be good all round PC...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor | $329.00 @ B&H
Motherboard | MSI - MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard | $159.99 @ Newegg
Memory | G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $59.99 @ Newegg
Storage | HP - EX920 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $62.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card | MSI - Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card | $159.99 @ Newegg
Case | Cooler Master - MasterBox MB510L ATX Mid Tower Case | $48.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | SeaSonic - S12II 620 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $57.98 @ SuperBiiz
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $908.82
| Mail-in rebates | -$30.00
| Total | $878.82
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-10 02:20 EDT-0400 |
 
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I have B350 Mobo and I was also asking that question to myself and i decided to go with x570 cuz msi is giving a Cooler Master liquid cooler as a gift with x570 mobo and that makes x570 cheaper than x470. I think only noticable difference between x470 and x570 is PCI-e 4.0.
 

hermtm2

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With a b450/x470 board, compatibility out of the box is a hit and miss. Id the board is from a latest batch, it might have the BIOS already updated. If not, you have to arrange for a earlier gen. Ryzen to update BIOS for 3rd gen. compatibility, by either contacting the seller, or taking it to a pc store or contacting AMD for a loaner... https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-100

Something like this should be good all round PC...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor | $329.00 @ B&H
Motherboard | MSI - MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard | $159.99 @ Newegg
Memory | G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $59.99 @ Newegg
Storage | HP - EX920 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $62.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card | MSI - Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card | $159.99 @ Newegg
Case | Cooler Master - MasterBox MB510L ATX Mid Tower Case | $48.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | SeaSonic - S12II 620 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $57.98 @ SuperBiiz
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $908.82
| Mail-in rebates | -$30.00
| Total | $878.82
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-10 02:20 EDT-0400 |
I like the M/B and video card.

Thanks,

Ryan.
 

logainofhades

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You have the budget, for a 3900x.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor ($499.00 @ B&H)
Motherboard: MSI - MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB XC BLACK GAMING Video Card ($207.49 @ Amazon)
Case: RIOTORO - CR488 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1241.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-10 09:58 EDT-0400
 
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hermtm2

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You have the budget, for a 3900x.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor ($499.00 @ B&H)
Motherboard: MSI - MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB XC BLACK GAMING Video Card ($207.49 @ Amazon)
Case: RIOTORO - CR488 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1241.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-10 09:58 EDT-0400
What if I change the CPU to 3700X and get an used graphic card GTX 1060 3GB. Since I am not going to play games seriously, it would save my pocket.
 
I don't know what you can find a 1060 3GB for, but you can get new RX 570s pretty cheap.

Edit: Here's an example of a more budget oriented build that should still perform virtually the same except for applications that can take advantage of >8 cores.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($329.00 @ B&H)
Motherboard: MSI - B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($93.80 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($112.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - XPG SX8200 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: ASRock - Radeon RX 570 4 GB Phantom Gaming D Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Case: RIOTORO - CR488 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - Vengeance 650 W 80+ Silver Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($59.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $860.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-15 22:50 EDT-0400


The motherboard would likely need to have its BIOS updated, which can be done without a supported CPU via the BIOS flashback feature.
 
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What if I change the CPU to 3700X and get an used graphic card GTX 1060 3GB. Since I am not going to play games seriously, it would save my pocket.
Honestly, all the above builds are way overkill for your workload, even if you have the budget. A simple build will perform equally well and save you tons of $$$...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor | $329.00 @ B&H
Motherboard | MSI - X570-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard | $159.99 @ B&H
Memory | Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $69.99 @ Amazon
Storage | ADATA - XPG SX8200 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive | $74.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | ASRock - Radeon RX 570 4 GB Phantom Gaming D Video Card | $129.99 @ Newegg
Case | Cooler Master - MasterBox MB510L ATX Mid Tower Case | $35.00 @ Newegg
Power Supply | SeaSonic - 520 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $41.98 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $865.94
| Mail-in rebates | -$25.00
| Total | $840.94
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-16 00:40 EDT-0400 |
 

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