Do I need to?

[stan]

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I want to upgrade my CPU, seems I also need to upgrade my MB.

I have been informed I need to do a clean install of WINXP including SP2 and
all updates, I would also have to re-install all my programs and software
some of which have been upgrades others I am not sure which are data ,As I
am not a newbee but also not that computer savvy to risk loosing a lot of
what I consider survival programs. Old enough to be smarter, young enough to
know better. No major changes made to computer in over 120 days, just a hard
drive way over 6 months ago. Can new MB and CPU be installed without such
drastic steps as needing to reinstall everything?

At present running on Intel 933MHZ, 640 Ram.
Stan

 

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you should manage ok with a repair install but no doubt activation will be
required
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there are no problems just challenges


"stan" wrote:

> I want to upgrade my CPU, seems I also need to upgrade my MB.
>
> I have been informed I need to do a clean install of WINXP including SP2 and
> all updates, I would also have to re-install all my programs and software
> some of which have been upgrades others I am not sure which are data ,As I
> am not a newbee but also not that computer savvy to risk loosing a lot of
> what I consider survival programs. Old enough to be smarter, young enough to
> know better. No major changes made to computer in over 120 days, just a hard
> drive way over 6 months ago. Can new MB and CPU be installed without such
> drastic steps as needing to reinstall everything?
>
> At present running on Intel 933MHZ, 640 Ram.
> Stan
>
>
>

 

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stan wrote:
> I want to upgrade my CPU, seems I also need to upgrade my MB.
>
> I have been informed I need to do a clean install of WINXP including SP2 and
> all updates, I would also have to re-install all my programs and software
> some of which have been upgrades others I am not sure which are data ,As I
> am not a newbee but also not that computer savvy to risk loosing a lot of
> what I consider survival programs. Old enough to be smarter, young enough to
> know better. No major changes made to computer in over 120 days, just a hard
> drive way over 6 months ago. Can new MB and CPU be installed without such
> drastic steps as needing to reinstall everything?
>
> At present running on Intel 933MHZ, 640 Ram.
> Stan

If upgrading to a current Intel model, then it would be
essentially a 2-generation jump in CPU and motherboard.
Not really a good proposition without doing a clean install.

 

[stan]

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Thanks to all you replied.
Puts me back to square one. The man who made the suggestion I've dealt with
for years. He's done some upgrades for me previously but not with WINXP OS.
Will have to trust his judgment. Now I have to figure out how to do a full
backup.

Stan
"Ghostrider" <-00-@fitron.142> wrote in message
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>
> stan wrote:
>> I want to upgrade my CPU, seems I also need to upgrade my MB.
>>
>> I have been informed I need to do a clean install of WINXP including SP2
>> and all updates, I would also have to re-install all my programs and
>> software some of which have been upgrades others I am not sure which are
>> data ,As I am not a newbee but also not that computer savvy to risk
>> loosing a lot of what I consider survival programs. Old enough to be
>> smarter, young enough to know better. No major changes made to computer
>> in over 120 days, just a hard drive way over 6 months ago. Can new MB
>> and CPU be installed without such drastic steps as needing to reinstall
>> everything?
>>
>> At present running on Intel 933MHZ, 640 Ram.
>> Stan
>
> If upgrading to a current Intel model, then it would be
> essentially a 2-generation jump in CPU and motherboard.
> Not really a good proposition without doing a clean install.

 

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Stan, I don't totally understand your needs.
Now I am no expert, but I wouldn't think you need to reinstall your OS. But
you should actually have a full b/u before making your changes.
But I would like ot know w/a P4 933 Mhz machine do you run real power
programs that just increasing your RAM wouldn't help.

"stan" <SEDNCID@myomy.com> wrote in message
news:OO0xaHfvFHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>I want to upgrade my CPU, seems I also need to upgrade my MB.
>
> I have been informed I need to do a clean install of WINXP including SP2
> and all updates, I would also have to re-install all my programs and
> software some of which have been upgrades others I am not sure which are
> data ,As I am not a newbee but also not that computer savvy to risk
> loosing a lot of what I consider survival programs. Old enough to be
> smarter, young enough to know better. No major changes made to computer in
> over 120 days, just a hard drive way over 6 months ago. Can new MB and
> CPU be installed without such drastic steps as needing to reinstall
> everything?
>
> At present running on Intel 933MHZ, 640 Ram.
> Stan
>

 

[stan]

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Steve, Larry thanks for your replies. Machine is P3 not P4.
Some suggestions have been made to me it might be cheaper to buy a new
computer since parts and labor might exceed buying a new one.
Is a transfer from one machine to another also a choice?

Stan
"Larry Mauriello" <larrym6833@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Stan, I don't totally understand your needs.
> Now I am no expert, but I wouldn't think you need to reinstall your OS.
> But you should actually have a full b/u before making your changes.
> But I would like ot know w/a P4 933 Mhz machine do you run real power
> programs that just increasing your RAM wouldn't help.
>
> "stan" <SEDNCID@myomy.com> wrote in message
> news:OO0xaHfvFHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>I want to upgrade my CPU, seems I also need to upgrade my MB.
>>
>> I have been informed I need to do a clean install of WINXP including SP2
>> and all updates, I would also have to re-install all my programs and
>> software some of which have been upgrades others I am not sure which are
>> data ,As I am not a newbee but also not that computer savvy to risk
>> loosing a lot of what I consider survival programs. Old enough to be
>> smarter, young enough to know better. No major changes made to computer
>> in over 120 days, just a hard drive way over 6 months ago. Can new MB
>> and CPU be installed without such drastic steps as needing to reinstall
>> everything?
>>
>> At present running on Intel 933MHZ, 640 Ram.
>> Stan
>>
>
>

 

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In news:BuVXe.8528$i86.738@trndny01,
Larry Mauriello <larrym6833@verizon.net> typed:

> Stan, I don't totally understand your needs.
> Now I am no expert, but I wouldn't think you need to reinstall
> your
> OS.


If he changes his motherboard, he will need to do a minimum of a
repair installation. It's possible that that won't work, and
he'll need to do a clean reinstallation.


> But you should actually have a full b/u before making your
> changes. But I would like ot know w/a P4 933 Mhz machine do you
> run real power
> programs that just increasing your RAM wouldn't help.


He has 640MB of RAM. It depends on what apps he runs, but for the
great majority of people, 640MB is more than enough to keep him
from using the page file. If he doesn't use the page file, adding
more RAM will do almost nothing for him.

So his is probably a situation where getting a faster processor
will help him, but adding more RAM won't.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
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>
> "stan" <SEDNCID@myomy.com> wrote in message
> news:OO0xaHfvFHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> I want to upgrade my CPU, seems I also need to upgrade my MB.
>>
>> I have been informed I need to do a clean install of WINXP
>> including
>> SP2 and all updates, I would also have to re-install all my
>> programs
>> and software some of which have been upgrades others I am not
>> sure
>> which are data ,As I am not a newbee but also not that
>> computer
>> savvy to risk loosing a lot of what I consider survival
>> programs.
>> Old enough to be smarter, young enough to know better. No
>> major
>> changes made to computer in over 120 days, just a hard drive
>> way
>> over 6 months ago. Can new MB and CPU be installed without
>> such
>> drastic steps as needing to reinstall everything?
>>
>> At present running on Intel 933MHZ, 640 Ram.
>> Stan

 

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"stan" <SEDNCID@myomy.com> wrote:

>I want to upgrade my CPU, seems I also need to upgrade my MB.
>
>I have been informed I need to do a clean install of WINXP including SP2 and
>all updates, I would also have to re-install all my programs and software
>some of which have been upgrades others I am not sure which are data ,As I
>am not a newbee but also not that computer savvy to risk loosing a lot of
>what I consider survival programs. Old enough to be smarter, young enough to
>know better. No major changes made to computer in over 120 days, just a hard
>drive way over 6 months ago. Can new MB and CPU be installed without such
>drastic steps as needing to reinstall everything?
>
>At present running on Intel 933MHZ, 640 Ram.
>Stan
>

Is your Windows XP an OEM version? And if it is then is it one of the
"BIOS Locked" OEM versions?

If both answers are Yes then you probably should not consider doing
the motherboard upgrade, as you will either have to purchase the
replacement motherboard from the same OEM that made your computer or
purchase a new Windows License.

BIOS Locked OEM versions cannot be activated on a motherboard that is
not from that specific OEM. These versions are self-activation when
installed on a motherboard from the OEM concerned and as of 1 March
2005 they will not activate over the Internet if installed on a
different motherboard and telephone activation requests will be
declined.

To determine if your installed Windows XP is an OEM version open
Control Panel - System - Advanced and look at the 20 character Product
I.D. value shown in the last line of the "Registered to:" section. If
the second segment of the Product I.D. value is OEM then yours is an
OEM version.

To detemine if your OEM version is a BIOS Locked version use Start -
All Programs - System Tools and look for a menu item for "Activate
Windows". If there is no "Activate Windows" item on the System Tools
menu then your OEM version is BIOS Locked.

Note 1: Some non-OEM versions of Windows XP, such as Volume Licenses,
also do not have the Activate Windows item on the System Tools menu.
This does not mean that they are BIOS Locked. That only applies to
OEM versions.

Note 2: If you replaced the motherboard prior to 1 March 2005 then
your OEM version of Windows XP may be BIOS Locked and will also show
an "Activate Windows" item in the System Tools menu. These version
cannot be activated again, so anything that triggers a need to
reactivate could be disastrous.

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
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On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm

 

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stan wrote:
> I want to upgrade my CPU, seems I also need to upgrade my MB.
>
> I have been informed I need to do a clean install of WINXP including SP2 and
> all updates, I would also have to re-install all my programs and software
> some of which have been upgrades others I am not sure which are data ,As I
> am not a newbee but also not that computer savvy to risk loosing a lot of
> what I consider survival programs. Old enough to be smarter, young enough to
> know better. No major changes made to computer in over 120 days, just a hard
> drive way over 6 months ago. Can new MB and CPU be installed without such
> drastic steps as needing to reinstall everything?
>
> At present running on Intel 933MHZ, 640 Ram.
> Stan
>
>


Normally, and assuming a retail license (many OEM installations are
BIOS-locked to a specific chipset and therefore not transferable to a
new motherboard - check yours before starting), unless the new
motherboard is virtually identical (same chipset, same IDE controllers,
same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on which the WinXP installation was
originally performed, you'll need to perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place
upgrade) installation, at the very least:

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341

The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with
licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point.
You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If
you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a
Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style
foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it,
is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any
old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it
"tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the
reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable
than the Win9x group.

As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any
important data before starting.

This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a
Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than
120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most
likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's
been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call.



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You most likelyy will have to do only a repair install..
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

The order is:
Install new hardware
Boot from XP CD
Do repair install
Boot normally..


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"stan" <SEDNCID@myomy.com> kirjoitti viestissä
news:OO0xaHfvFHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> I want to upgrade my CPU, seems I also need to upgrade my MB.
>
> I have been informed I need to do a clean install of WINXP including SP2
and
> all updates, I would also have to re-install all my programs and software
> some of which have been upgrades others I am not sure which are data ,As I
> am not a newbee but also not that computer savvy to risk loosing a lot of
> what I consider survival programs. Old enough to be smarter, young enough
to
> know better. No major changes made to computer in over 120 days, just a
hard
> drive way over 6 months ago. Can new MB and CPU be installed without such
> drastic steps as needing to reinstall everything?
>
> At present running on Intel 933MHZ, 640 Ram.
> Stan
>
>