[SOLVED] Do I wait for Ryzen 4000?

[C7AZYL]

Currently in the middle of getting parts for my new build, was all set on going with i9-10900k but now I have seen Ryzen 4000 chips are getting revealed at the start of October, do you think it’s wise till wait for the 4950x or 5950x? (not sure what they will call it)

Also after the reveal in October what is AMD turn around on release dates? do you think it will drop it October or November? always been with intel but seeing what AMD are doing its hard to pass up.

Many thanks

 

[ohio_buckeye]

It's your call honestly. What has happened before, though you can't say for sure now is that for example, when the 2000 series and the 3000 series dropped, you could find good pricing on previous generation CPUs.

The 3000 series are definitely good though. For example I have a ryzen 5 3600, which from what I can see is pretty close to an i7 8700. And that's a middle of the road cpu. So I say it's your call. I think the 4000 series will perform better, but just not sure how much.

One thing to keep in mind also, it may be that your board you buy may have sat in a warehouse somewhere, and may not recognize a 4000 series cpu without an update. I would also venture that the 4000 series might be their last release on socket am4 before they move to socket am5 and ddr5 memory.

If you want to wait I see no harm there. But if you have all the other components, I see no issue with getting a 3000 series cpu now. According to an article I just saw it looks like there will be a speech about the new CPUs October 8, and then they get released in a few weeks after. So you could either wait, buy a good 3000 series cpu now, or you could even buy something like a ryzen 5 3600 or ryzen 7 3700x as a placeholder and sell when the new chips come out.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i9-10900k-cpu-review#xenforo-comments-3608634

That should give an idea of the 3950x vs the i9. But the graphs also show CPUs like the 3700x if you are interested. So I guess it depends on when you're wanting to get things set.

 

[C7AZYL]

It's your call honestly. What has happened before, though you can't say for sure now is that for example, when the 2000 series and the 3000 series dropped, you could find good pricing on previous generation CPUs.

The 3000 series are definitely good though. For example I have a ryzen 5 3600, which from what I can see is pretty close to an i7 8700. And that's a middle of the road cpu. So I say it's your call. I think the 4000 series will perform better, but just not sure how much.

One thing to keep in mind also, it may be that your board you buy may have sat in a warehouse somewhere, and may not recognize a 4000 series cpu without an update. I would also venture that the 4000 series might be their last release on socket am4 before they move to socket am5 and ddr5 memory.

If you want to wait I see no harm there. But if you have all the other components, I see no issue with getting a 3000 series cpu now. According to an article I just saw it looks like there will be a speech about the new CPUs October 8, and then they get released in a few weeks after. So you could either wait, buy a good 3000 series cpu now, or you could even buy something like a ryzen 5 3600 or ryzen 7 3700x as a placeholder and sell when the new chips come out.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i9-10900k-cpu-review#xenforo-comments-3608634

That should give an idea of the 3950x vs the i9. But the graphs also show CPUs like the 3700x if you are interested. So I guess it depends on when you're wanting to get things set.

It's your call honestly. What has happened before, though you can't say for sure now is that for example, when the 2000 series and the 3000 series dropped, you could find good pricing on previous generation CPUs.

The 3000 series are definitely good though. For example I have a ryzen 5 3600, which from what I can see is pretty close to an i7 8700. And that's a middle of the road cpu. So I say it's your call. I think the 4000 series will perform better, but just not sure how much.

One thing to keep in mind also, it may be that your board you buy may have sat in a warehouse somewhere, and may not recognize a 4000 series cpu without an update. I would also venture that the 4000 series might be their last release on socket am4 before they move to socket am5 and ddr5 memory.

If you want to wait I see no harm there. But if you have all the other components, I see no issue with getting a 3000 series cpu now. According to an article I just saw it looks like there will be a speech about the new CPUs October 8, and then they get released in a few weeks after. So you could either wait, buy a good 3000 series cpu now, or you could even buy something like a ryzen 5 3600 or ryzen 7 3700x as a placeholder and sell when the new chips come out.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i9-10900k-cpu-review#xenforo-comments-3608634

That should give an idea of the 3950x vs the i9. But the graphs also show CPUs like the 3700x if you are interested. So I guess it depends on when you're wanting to get things set.

Many thanks for the reply, the only parts I have is the case and the cooler I did order a hero z490 mobo and i9-10900k but I have now sent them back and will just wait till the announcement and go from there, if it’s better I’ll go amd if not I’ll just go i9 think that’s the best bet.

 

[GarrettL]

Smart move. Hang in there and see what happens. No buyers remorse.

 

[drea.drechsler]

Currently in the middle of getting parts for my new build, was all set on going with i9-10900k but now I have seen Ryzen 4000 chips are getting revealed at the start of October, do you think it’s wise till wait for the 4950x or 5950x? (not sure what they will call it)

Also after the reveal in October what is AMD turn around on release dates? do you think it will drop it October or November? always been with intel but seeing what AMD are doing its hard to pass up.

Many thanks

Personally, a lot of this decision has to do with what your expectations are. Ryzen 4000 may very well be the next greatest thing, a solid bar above anything else previously. But the good thing about going with the 10900 is it is, in essence, old tech. Tried and true, well understood. Like an old pair of Levi's that fit just right.

AMD has been pushing tech with Ryzen for not only improved performance but improved efficiency. Each release of gen 1, 2 and 3 had it's headaches. Gen 2 least of them, but getting people to understand how to get the most out of the tech without resorting to old-school tricks isn't easy. Many still don't get it.

What's coming with gen 4? nobody knows. So where you're sitting right now you're going to be what's called an 'early adopter'. If everything goes smoothly, no sweat. But if not: Ryzen 3000 released early July 2019. But most of us only got really good and proper operating systems in late summer; mid September in my case. It took that much time for AGESA releases from AMD and motherboard mfr's to integrate into BIOS updates and do testing.

So while I hope this launch is smooth as glass in mature motherboards, considering the BIOS updates that have come down lately, that make enable processor and memory to work as expected. But who can tell: the early adopters, that's who.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

I wouldn't count on the 4000 series being better, but I would say they will be competitive. Which is saying something considering not that long ago AMD was getting hammered by intel. When you look at some of the things I sent you, you can see how competitive even 3000 series is with the new intel stuff.

I will say one thing about AMD I like is how much room there typically is for upgrades. In my case, I'm running a board from 2 years ago, but running a Ryzen 5 3600 on it. The board cost maybe 60-75 bucks back then. So you get an idea how reasonable it's been for me to upgrade and have competitive performance.

In your case, I imagine the 4000 series will be the last of AM4 on ddr4 ram, so get what you can afford. But intel vs AMD will come down probably to performance vs cost.

 

[tennis2]

ABSOLUTELY wait till October 8th (even though they probably won't be available at retail that day/week).

 

[beorn]

Hard to say....who knows when they'll be released and if they'll be markedly better. Personally I just went with a 3900X. Even if the 4000 or 5000 line is released in Oct/Nov they could be selling with hefty premiums for months because of shortages, just like last time. But either way, a 10900K or 3900X are both extremely worthy processors!