[SOLVED] Do we need AIO cooler if we don't overclock ?
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- Mar 16, 2013
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Because you're not putting any real strain on the system. And most AIO coolers are not a lot better than good air coolers.
Liquid cooling is not magic. It just moves the heat exchanger (the radiator) to a different part of the case.
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Just an update... I think that AMD stock cooler is very good.
I don't have any heat issue. In fact, my GPU is not exceeding 70 c .. playing 1440p games at ultra max settings.
Call of Duty WWII / CS GO - games that Im playing for 2-3 hrs.
So for those who don't overclock, don't buy expensive cooler coz you won't bee needing it.
I don't have any heat issue. In fact, my GPU is not exceeding 70 c .. playing 1440p games at ultra max settings.
Call of Duty WWII / CS GO - games that Im playing for 2-3 hrs.
So for those who don't overclock, don't buy expensive cooler coz you won't bee needing it.
Albionm00n
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Greetings!
Just some food for thought. Whereas, you may not need the AIO for better cooling needs, there have been many (including myself) who have gone with an AIO to cut down on fan noise. There is really not much difference between the capabilities of many AIOs versus a good air cooler for temperature management these days, but the big difference comes in decibels. In my experience, you can run the fans on an AIO slower and still achieve excellent cooling while cutting noise down significantly in a non-overclocked situation.
I have a dual Xeon system, and two air coolers would create a lot of fan/air turbulence noise, but the AIOs I have on them are nearly silent. Even when I am pushing all 32 threads at 100%, I can barely hear the fans and am sitting at like 56 degrees at full load.
To get more specific, the fins on an air cooler demand that the air pass for a longer distance through it compared to a radiator (the AMD is short, but there will be turbulence from air reflecting off of the motherboard)...this creates more turbulence of the air which will have its own decibel reading, but will also "feed back" via pressure to impact the efficiency of the fan (this is increased in push/pull, especially if there is a variance between the speeds of the two fans, which can happen in the fan and not be a result of settings). The air pushed through the radiator has less distance, (and usually resulting in) less pressure required to move it, and less turbulence as a result. These factors can easily effect the needed fan speeds for cooling. Of course, case and other setup parameters can also effect airflow and cooling needs, thus reducing or increasing your airflow capabilities before the fan is even a factor...but in my experience, I have found AOIs to generally be a much quieter option for cooling in a non-overclocked scenario.
I am not recommending that you go out and buy an AIO, I just merely felt that you should be fully aware of some of the minor differences before making an opinion/choice. To use myself for example, I do not need AIOs to cool my system, but I wanted them so that I didn't have to constantly hear my system. As with many things in computer hardware, specs are one thing, but happy long term usability plays a factor as well and is subjectively different for every user. Knowledge of these differences can help us build the perfect system for our individual needs.
Hope this helps!
Just some food for thought. Whereas, you may not need the AIO for better cooling needs, there have been many (including myself) who have gone with an AIO to cut down on fan noise. There is really not much difference between the capabilities of many AIOs versus a good air cooler for temperature management these days, but the big difference comes in decibels. In my experience, you can run the fans on an AIO slower and still achieve excellent cooling while cutting noise down significantly in a non-overclocked situation.
I have a dual Xeon system, and two air coolers would create a lot of fan/air turbulence noise, but the AIOs I have on them are nearly silent. Even when I am pushing all 32 threads at 100%, I can barely hear the fans and am sitting at like 56 degrees at full load.
To get more specific, the fins on an air cooler demand that the air pass for a longer distance through it compared to a radiator (the AMD is short, but there will be turbulence from air reflecting off of the motherboard)...this creates more turbulence of the air which will have its own decibel reading, but will also "feed back" via pressure to impact the efficiency of the fan (this is increased in push/pull, especially if there is a variance between the speeds of the two fans, which can happen in the fan and not be a result of settings). The air pushed through the radiator has less distance, (and usually resulting in) less pressure required to move it, and less turbulence as a result. These factors can easily effect the needed fan speeds for cooling. Of course, case and other setup parameters can also effect airflow and cooling needs, thus reducing or increasing your airflow capabilities before the fan is even a factor...but in my experience, I have found AOIs to generally be a much quieter option for cooling in a non-overclocked scenario.
I am not recommending that you go out and buy an AIO, I just merely felt that you should be fully aware of some of the minor differences before making an opinion/choice. To use myself for example, I do not need AIOs to cool my system, but I wanted them so that I didn't have to constantly hear my system. As with many things in computer hardware, specs are one thing, but happy long term usability plays a factor as well and is subjectively different for every user. Knowledge of these differences can help us build the perfect system for our individual needs.
Hope this helps!
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Oh yeah.. good point.
The stock cooler is kinda noisy... it's like an airplane will take off from a far.
But in my case, I use headset or load speakers all the time so I don't mind the noise of my CPU. But just me... I know some are very keen to fan noise.
The stock cooler is kinda noisy... it's like an airplane will take off from a far.
But in my case, I use headset or load speakers all the time so I don't mind the noise of my CPU. But just me... I know some are very keen to fan noise.
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A lot of AIOs have higher fan noise at 100%, take a look at my reviews of the H100i/Pro/RGB models.
However, fan curves make all the difference, so this should be minimal if you do it correctly.
By comparison, most high-end air coolers are nearly silent, even at 100% fan speeds. be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4, Deep Cool Assassin III and Noctua NH-D15's fall into this category.
However, fan curves make all the difference, so this should be minimal if you do it correctly.
By comparison, most high-end air coolers are nearly silent, even at 100% fan speeds. be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4, Deep Cool Assassin III and Noctua NH-D15's fall into this category.
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Coolers don't make much (if any) noticable noise, even with ultra high amounts of air pushed through them. It's the Fans that make all the noise you can realistically hear. The Best Performance fans are made by Delta, there's really nothing that can match the pure cfm output of a 120mm fan spinning at 10k rpm. Just bring some really good earplugs and noise canceling earphones because you'll need them for the 60db+. Noctua makes arguably the best fans for a pc because they have excellent airflow at excellent volume.
It's a totally different experience using an old Corsair 2400rpm+ fan on a NH-D15S to using the stock Noctua fan, or using Noctua on a older Corsair H115 vs the Corsair stock fans.
For the most part, liquid cooling vs air cooling performance is no different, it's only different in how it's done, and the results to everything But the cpu. The Corsair H60 has almost identical performance to a cheaper CM Hyper212 evo, but many cases will not accept the 212's 160mm tall tower yet happily mount a 120mm AIO.
The question to liquid cool or air cool isn't performance, it's about what works for the cpu, the case, your tastes and needs. Do you Need an aio? No, the stock cooler is plenty. Do you Want an aio because it has greater cooling potential and a larger fan capable of spinning much quieter as a result compared to the stock fan? Different question.
It's a totally different experience using an old Corsair 2400rpm+ fan on a NH-D15S to using the stock Noctua fan, or using Noctua on a older Corsair H115 vs the Corsair stock fans.
For the most part, liquid cooling vs air cooling performance is no different, it's only different in how it's done, and the results to everything But the cpu. The Corsair H60 has almost identical performance to a cheaper CM Hyper212 evo, but many cases will not accept the 212's 160mm tall tower yet happily mount a 120mm AIO.
The question to liquid cool or air cool isn't performance, it's about what works for the cpu, the case, your tastes and needs. Do you Need an aio? No, the stock cooler is plenty. Do you Want an aio because it has greater cooling potential and a larger fan capable of spinning much quieter as a result compared to the stock fan? Different question.
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somebassplayer
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I went to an AIO to make it easier to work inside my system. I had a Hyper 212 EVO air cooler in it which takes up a lot of room. Much easier to work inside now.
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