Do you feel the difference of WD Black vs WD Green?

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I am using SSD as the main drive. I intend to use WD Black or WD Green to store files (e.g. word, pdf, txt, mp3, movies...)

WD Black is 7200rpm, WD green is 5400rpm

Do you really feel the difference of WD Black vs WD Green speed?
(e.g. speed when opening files, saving...)
Thanks
 

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If you're using it as like a backup drive or just file storage, other than the backup and transfers running slower, not really. But if you're using it as like your software drive (ie you have an SSD for your OS, and the drive for your software/files) you will see a noticeable difference in load times, transfer times, etc.
 
Yes, very much so.... of course it depends on the task....about 20% in gaming.

I haven't bought a HD drive in four years, we have used strictly SSHDs and the performance difference is very noticeable..... much more than the difference between SSDs and SSHDs

Look at the numbers here:

http://www. tomshardware.com/charts/hdd-charts-2013/compare,2915.html?prod[6332]=on&prod[5357]=on&prod[5359]=on

Workstation apps @ 37%
Reads @ 40%
Import Pictures = @ 30%
Desktop performance @ 21%

THG forum software truncates the link ... so just copy / paste and then remove the spaces between http://www and omshardware.com/charts/hdd-charts-2013/compare,2915.html?prod[6332]=on&prod[5357]=on&prod[5359]=on

and it will work fine



 


Same answer. Use the link

The link compares the two in numerous categories including office apps, pdf's text , movies etc... the gaming difference is less than some of the others.

 

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In the link there is a table. What does the numbers mean?

For example first row Black 140.99. Green 127.72
 

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The price difference between the 2tb green and 2tb black is €50, unless you are using it for games or your os. Your word files won't load any faster.

For mass storage go for the cheaper option the quality will still be very good.
 


Look in the left column

Read Throughput Maximum: h2benchw 3.16 Sequential Transfer Rates (Maximum) Score in MB/s

Black = 140.99 MB/s
Green = 127.72 MB/s

The one that applies to you the most is Desktop Performance

WD Green - 354.19
WD Black - 428.56 (21% faster than WD Green)
Seagate SSHD - 546.00 (54% faster than WD Green)

The Green drives are intended for locations where the Black's heat and power consumption (those numbers in table) would be a problem and performance is not a high priority. Also a favorite of laptop vendors and 'Store shelves" computers where the lower cost can change a $729 PC into a $699 PC

The difference in cost is also affected by the shorter warranty (2 years) of the Green. SSHD has 3 years and Black 5
 
Here's pricing on 1 and 2 TB ... the 2 TB SSHDs are a steal

SSHD $80 / $95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178381
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178380

WD Black $71 / $122
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236625
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236624

A lot of peeps seem to have heard that, this gal must have told them :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOzAgpxg5wE

Actually there was this ridiculous backblaze study where some genius decided to put consumer drives in a server environment. In actuality, the very protection devices in consumer drives lead to premature failure in a server environment. Consumer drives have a feature called "head parking" which parks the heads when not in use. This way if someone bumps you desk, the heads don't crash your platters. Drives are rated for 250 - 500k cycles. In a server environment, this feature is useless, you can use up 50k cycles in a month. Cheap consumer drives without this feature can actually do quite well in server usage in this respect but, in home / office bump ya desk, and damaged drive.

Here's 2 years worth of HD return rates for drives that failed between 6 and 12 months of usage. 1st number is last 6 months, one in ( ) is previous 6 months

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/920-6/disques-durs.html

- Seagate 0,86% (contre 0,95%)
- Toshiba 1,02% (contre 1,54%)
- Hitachi 1,08% (contre 1,16%)
- Western 1,13% (contre 1,19%)

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/927-6/disques-durs.html

- Seagate 0,69% (contre 0,86%)
- Western 0,93 (contre 1,13%)
- HGST 1,01% (contre 1,08%)
- Toshiba 1,29% (contre 1,02%)

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/934-6/disques-durs.html

- Seagate 0,68% (contre 0,69%)
- Western 1,09% (contre 0,93%)
- HGST 1,16% (contre 1,01%)
- Toshiba 1,34% (contre 1,29%)

More importantly tho.... it's all about which drives are failing in big numbers, not the overall rate. Anything much above 2.5% should get you nervous. From same 3 periods. Moistly the 3 and 4 TB drives that aren't doing well

- 3,75% Toshiba DT01ACA300
- 3,08% WD RE WD4000FYYZ
- 2,64% WD Green WD20EARX
- 2,54% WD Black WD4001FAEX

- 4,76% WD Black WD4001FAEX
- 4,24% WD Black WD3001FAEX
- 3,83% WD SE WD3000F9YZ
- 2,56% HGST Travelstar 7K1000

- 4,58% WD Red WD60EFRX
- 3,40% Toshiba 3 To DT01ACA300
- 2,93% WD Green 4 To WD40EZRX
- 2,78% WD SE 3 To WD3000F9YZ

 

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Most hard drives are lousy and you shouldn't expect them to be very reliable, at least after the warranty. Thus, keep a good backup and all the drives will be more or less the same in terms of reliability. (Although yes, 3tb (4tb too?) drives especially from Seagate seem to be especially lousy...). So what do I recommend? Seagate desktop SSHD for speed. Seagate/Toshiba/WD/ normal HDD (not 3tb) for just price/capacity
 

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My rule of thumb is if you get 5 solid years out of a consumer hard drive that you use regularly, you got your money's worth out of it. Hard drives have gotten better (because back in the 90's after 5 years they would usually crap out), but still to be safe thats what I go by.
 

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Such a shame then, that normal people expect to use them for 10
 

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What does transfer in transfer speed mean?

If I download a file from internet to the WD Green vs WD Black, will the WD Green take a longer time to complete the download?

If I move a file to different folders (inside the same WD disk), will WD Green take longer time to complete?

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I have a Samsung SSD (Windows 7), and I am going to use a normal hard disk to store data files (e.g. MS word, excel, pdf, text, music, videos...)
Black and Blue are 7200rpm, Green is 5400rpm, so I was wondering if Green is suitable for my needs, would it feel slow.
(I am a noob on SSD, first time using SSD so I am wondering what normal disk to use with SSD)
 

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Alright, here goes another recap. Everything said here has been said above.

1) Black is faster than Green and for tasks like this you will notice.
2) But this is a matter of seconds we are talking about.
3) SSD and SSHD are even faster but more expensive.
4) It all depends on a balance that only you can decide on

bonus) most hard drives have equal (bad) reliability. Don't worry about brand
bonus) avoid 3 TB hard drives, and 4TB too if possible
 

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Yeah, for some reason 3tb drives fail a lot. This is well known.

the other guy found data that showed that 4tb drives aren't very good either. This is news to me, but data doesn't lie.

5tb is rather expensive, but maybe worth it. Check Toshiba's offerings.