[SOLVED] Does everything look good?

[KeithK2006]

I've been planning on building my first PC for awhile now and I keep making a bunch of changes xd
I was wondering if all these new parts that were chosen would be worth it
Old Build: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KWvhf9
New Build: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/tdBmXv
I switched to air cooling because I'm assuming it does more for my money but Im not sure if the cooler is good enough for this build. I also managed to squeeze in a 2080 super instead of a 2070 super by doing that.
I'm going to be doing lots of gaming and some light streaming and also try my hand at overclocking.

 

[Phaaze88]

IMO, New Build is the better balanced between the 2.

That cooler on the 3700X is fine. It doesn't require as exotic cooling compared to the 10600K.

 

[KeithK2006]

I would get better performance with the newer build in games since most games are heavily GPU based right?

 

[Zerk2012]

I would get better performance with the newer build in games since most games are heavily GPU based right?

Yes depending on the game and resolution with a 2080 super you can get CPU limited at 1080p.
For the stock cooler upgrade it don't use the stock cooler it's not even good enough to get the full speed from the processor on the 3700X or really any AMD CPU.

I also dislike the SMR platter on that 2TB drive.

 

[Phaaze88]

Depends on the game and the settings you're going to use for each.
The cpu in Old Build really requires that it be paired with a 2080Ti - though the 2080 Super would also work, I think. Value goes out the window with that one.

 

[Karadjgne]

No. Not worth the money for the slight downgrade. The 3700x trails the 10600k in anything gaming, or at best is equitable. It's biggest bonus last generation was its price + motherboard vs Intel 9700k +Z390, that's disappeared mostly with 10th Gen. The only real bonus left vs the 10600k is its cooling, you do not need a monster cooler to run good temps with the 3700x.

The 2080S is feeble. It's @ $200 more than the 2070S yet averages 5-10 fps @ 1440p more. Unless you are running a true 240Hz 1080p or 144Hz 1440p monitor and absolutely must have every last possible frame, then the step up from a 2070S is a 2080ti. The 2080S just isn't enough gain to be worth the extra price tag.

Air vs AIO is a seriously argumentative debate, that seems to be never ending. But it boils down to lack of understanding.
In their respective ranges Air = AIO. A 140w 120mm Corsair H60 has exactly the same cooling potential, and happens to have exactly the same cooling performance as a CoolerMaster Hyper212 Evo. Noctua NH-D15 is 250w, same as beQuiet Darkrock Pro 4, same as most every 240mm AIO. Same cooling potential. The differences in temps are due to the design, efficiency of the particular heat exchanger and fan/s. But thats where big air stops.

Any bigger on the heatsink and it wouldn't fit in enough cases to be worth producing, how many cases have 180mm+ worth of clearance from panel-cpu. Socket location is a physical limitation, you literally cannot put a cooler bigger than a D15 in a case, it can already hit the gpu, ram, top of some cases.

But you can squeeze a 300w 280mm AIO in most cases, or even a 350w 360mm AIO in many ATX cases lately. Far more capacity than Big Air can bring to the table.

At 229w Stock Intel power limits for 56 seconds, or even with some MSI or Gigabyte motherboards a higher stock bios power limit and unlimited duration turbo, Big Air is in trouble.

Aircoolers only bring bang for the buck once. The day you buy it. After that it's a moot point. Either it'll do the job and be worth the money spent, or not. AIO's might cost more for the component, but come with 2-3 free fans, and some RGB/ARGB fans worth buying can cost upwards of $30 each. So many times, AIO initial cost is offset by case fan required purchases.

Honestly, Build #1 is better balanced and has better quality components. Squeezing in that Deepcool 5 pack just to squeeze in a 2080S which with the 3700x will net @ the same fps as the 10600k/2070S, yet cost $200 more, isn't the best use of your money.

 

[KeithK2006]

Thanks everyone for all the help! I'll make some changes, I've noticed that the price of the 10600k drops to 399 every once in awhile so I could wait for that and buy it cheaper than the 3700x though I might get the 10600kf, I know its great to have integrated graphics so idk xd