Does Factory Overclock affect later overclocking?

[lee.spencer2742]

I am confused by factory overclocking. Will a ryzen 3 1200 and ryzen 3 1300x both overclock at the same rate or will the factory overclock on the ryzen 3 1300x affect the overclocking capabilities.
ie:
r3 1200 3.1 to 3.6 Ghz at 1.3 Volts and r3 1300x 3.5 to 4.0 Ghz at 1.3 volts
OR
r3 1200 3.1 to 4.0 Ghz at 1.5 volts and r3 1300x 3.5 to 4.0 at 1.3 volts
Will a factory overclock on the x variant limit the overclocking limit at home, or will both chips boost the same amount for the same voltage?

(Sorry if it doesn't make sense I'm not an expert on overclocking. I'm just trying to choose between the 2 chips and I already have an overclocking motherboard, so I'm wondering if buying the 1300x will boost enough after the factory overclock to be worth the 20 more dollars to me.)

 

[yeti_yeti]

Both ryzen 3 1200 and 1300x will not go beyond 4 ghz. There is really no point in buying factory overclocked CPU/GPU, since you are paying quite a bit for something, that you can do yourself in about 20 minutes.

 

[10tacle]

^^What he said. The X vs. the non-X does not mean the X chip is "overclocked" from the factory. That's the speed the chip is designed to run. It's similar (and different) to say an Intel i5 8700 vs. 8700K. The non-K 8700 has a core clock speed (all six cores) of 3.2GHz vs. 3.7GHz for the 8700K. When turbo kicks in on all six cores, both run at 4.3GHz. However, the difference with the Intel K-series means the user has an "unlocked" chip and can overclock past 4.3GHz with a proper motherboard (Z-series) but not so for the non-K chip. It's capped at 4.3GHz in turbo and will go no higher.

Apparently both the 1200 and 1300X are capped at 4.0GHz and no matter what overclocking capabilities your motherboard has, you can't go any higher with the out of the box faster 1300X. However, that means the 1300X will hit 4.0GHz much easier than the 1200 which would have to overclock at a higher percentage from base speed as you reference in voltage. That safety margin to me is worth the extra $20 for the 1300X. And another point to think about: if you get the 1200, there's no guarantee you'll get a good enough chip to even run stable at 4.0GHz. The 1300X all but locks it with a head start.

 

[TJ Hooker]

Are you comparing the 1200 vs 1300X, or are you talking about paying extra for one of those chips that someone has already overclocked for you?

As said above, the vast majority of Ryzen chips overclock to around the same frequency, around 3.8 to 4.0 GHz. So if you pay for a chip someone has already clocked to 4.0 GHz then you know for certain it will run at 4.0 GHz, whereas otherwise you don't know. But you'll still almost certainly be able to overclock a different chip to within 5% (3.8 GHz) or closer, and you very likely won't be able to push the pre-overclocked chip any further than 4.0 GHz.