does it make sense to get a gtx 1080ti over a 1080 to future proof ?

therios

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im getting a gpu and wanting it to reliable for the next 5 years for gaming at 1080p 60hz at high detail and i dont mind droping the settings after 3 years or so .. should i go with the 1080 or the 1080ti ?
 
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My first thought:

So in reference to your desire for a gaming card that'll last five years, I think it would be a good idea for you to view the high end gaming GPUs back in 2013:

The AMD Radeon R9 290X, and the GeForce GTX 780 Ti. According to my Google queries, they had launch prices of $549 and $699 respectively. I recommend that you load YouTube, and search the name of a game(s) that you're interested in with the name of one of the cards. e.g. assassins creed origins 780 Ti

YouTube query result
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DudeRandom84: Assassin's Creed Origins GTX 1080 TI Vs GTX 980 TI Vs GTX 780 TI Frame Rate Comparison
*1440p game play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyThJMSDayc

You can do the same searchs with games like GTA 5 and...
At this point if you can hold off till August when nVidia announces their next GPU you might be able to get a better price on it.

But the 1080Ti would be a better card for the long run. Higher performance and more VRAM will last longer. 5 years is a long time though.
 

therios

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so i will be just wasting those 300$ ?
 
I mean its hard to say. It depends on where gaming will go. In 5 years 11GB of VRAM might become less viable if there is a big push to 4K.
The 1080Ti will do well for the next few years easily but no one can be 100% sure.

With nVidia announcing their next GPU in August you might be able to save a bit on the last gen or the GTX 1180 or 2080 might come out better than a 1080Ti for a lower or similar price, much like the GTX 1080 came out it beat the 980Ti and was priced similarly.
 

therios

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i have to buy the gpu in the next 2 weeks before i travel .. but do you think the 1080ti is worth 250$ over the 1080 ?
 

therios

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cool .. i think i will go with it =D
thanks a lot for your help <3
 

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i play open world games mostly
ac , watch dogs , the witcher , gta , ghoust recon wild lands .. etc
and i wont be upgrading for around 5 years .. and i would like to keep my settings as high as possible
 
My first thought:

So in reference to your desire for a gaming card that'll last five years, I think it would be a good idea for you to view the high end gaming GPUs back in 2013:

The AMD Radeon R9 290X, and the GeForce GTX 780 Ti. According to my Google queries, they had launch prices of $549 and $699 respectively. I recommend that you load YouTube, and search the name of a game(s) that you're interested in with the name of one of the cards. e.g. assassins creed origins 780 Ti

YouTube query result
:
DudeRandom84: Assassin's Creed Origins GTX 1080 TI Vs GTX 980 TI Vs GTX 780 TI Frame Rate Comparison
*1440p game play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyThJMSDayc

You can do the same searchs with games like GTA 5 and Witcher 3, but just keep in mind that those games came out in 2013 and 2015 respectively, therefore it would make sense that they'd perform well with 2018 technology.


My second thought:

The new Nvidia graphics cards are due out for release very soon; perhaps this July or August. So I'd wait on purchasing a high end, and expensive, GPU until than. With that said, two months can be an eternity for a gamer, especially when the big summer steam sale is 2 1/2 weeks away: https://www.whenisthenextsteamsale.com/

In your position, I would inquire with PC gamer friends to see if any of them had a spare GPU that they could lend me for the next two months. If that wasn't an option, I would venture to purchase a low-mid tier GPU to hold me over for the next 1-2 months. How low end? I probably wouldn't buy above a 1050 Ti, and with those cards now costing $200 ($50 over original MSRP), I'd be open to an EVGA b-stock (factory recertified) unit, but only if the prices were $150 or less (https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-6255-RX). Then after the new Nvidia cards come out, I'd sell the low end card. This is what I would do...

If you don't want to bother with the procedure above, and you simply want to buy the best GPU available today, then I personally think that this is it:
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-6698-KR

If you go to the website images.google.com and query the name of the GPU and your case, you'll see how you'd mount this graphics card with the included and permanently attached water cooler/radiator: https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=1063&ei=ReQSW7HGGceN5wK5o6aIAg&q=GTX+1080+Ti+FTW3+HYBRID+define+r5&oq=GTX+1080+Ti+FTW3+HYBRID+define+r5&gs_l=img.3...9363.15182.0.15591.16.3.2.11.12.0.76.76.1.1.0....0...1ac.1j2.64.img..2.3.86.0..0i24k1.0.vlqV_aibOY0

One last thing... Once you've settled into your high end graphics card, you should keep an open mind about raising your game play (and upgrading your monitor) above 1080p 60 Hz. 1440p @ 144 (or 165) Hz is a huge upgrade. It may not sound like it on paper, but believe me, it is. My other favorite resolution is 3440 x 1440 @100Hz (ultrawide 1440p). I'd even consider 60 Hz in the 3440x1440 resolution, if the price was very competitive (<$600 USD). Just something to think about.
 
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dragonmasterj

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If you don't plan on upgrading any part of your rig for the next 5 years, and only want either a 1080 or 1080 Ti, I'd say get a 1080. Otherwise, as vapour said, I'd advise you to get a 1060. Even now, the 1060 is a great budget card for VR, and are definitely more than enough. I have a 1060 myself, and I'm currently using a 1440p 60Hz monitor. I play my games on all max settings, and I am able to get 60 FPS on VSync, and up to 200 FPS off Vsync, depending on the game. On League of Legends, I easily get 100-200 FPS when my frame rate is uncapped. Even when I play Fortnite and Overwatch on max settings, my GPU fans don't even run.

That being said, I don't see any games in the next five years being able to capitalize on the 8GB VRAM on the 1080, much less the 11GB on the 1080 Ti. I will say it again, if you are only considering buying a 1080 or 1080 Ti, buy the 1080.

Also keep in mind that you won't get the most out of your GPU if you stick with a 1080p 60Hz monitor, and you should get something more powerful in the future to pair with your beast GPU.
 

DSzymborski

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Here's the thing, if you buy the 1080 and you put the extra $250 into a bank account you don't use regularly (or add it to investments, etc.), by the time the difference between a 1080 and a 1080ti matters at 1080p, then selling the 1080 and using that money with the extra $250 will almost certainly buy you a better GPU at that point than what the 1080ti will be capable of at the time.

Unless you upgrade to a monitor that pushes forward that day when the difference between the 1080ti and 1080 matters, such as a higher resolution or a monitor that can display 144fps, I would not recommend spending $250 extra on the 1080ti.
 

therios

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i hardly agree with your solution of waiting .. but sadly im travelling to the u.s to get the parts so i have to do the purchase in the next 2-3 weeks .. and i wont be able to do any upgrades in the next 5 years due to price and availability issues .. a gtx 1050ti costs the same as a 1070 where i live .. so i will go with the best card i can get for now and hope for the best .. and im considering a 144hz monitor .. and do you think the hybrid card is good for that long of a time ? .. i mean if any failure happen i will be screwed for the next 5 years .. so im looking for the best air cooled card .. witch would you recommend the ftw3 or the asus strix non factory overclocked card ?