Doing New Build, reformed AMD guy needs help...

andyirish

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Hey all, I have a question with na eye on a new build... I currently have a 955 ii x4 AMD System I built nearly 5 years ago which the motherboard finally crapped out and won't recognize ram... so it's time to start a whole new build for the most part. I have agood job so I intend to invest 2k-2500 into my new build over the next 18 months, but I need something now to get back up and running so I'm starting the process of choosing a new motherboard and CPU and of course with that, new memory, psu, etc.

In any case, I at first was gonna stuck with AMD and grab a 9590 and load it up with RAM - My purpose primarily is to game but I do some photoshop and video rendering as well as a lot of multi-tasking....

Well AM3+ is a very dead platform with no upgrade path, so I think I've ruled that out.

I've decided to switch to Intel but I'm torn between the i7 4790k and the 5820k and the motherboard to pick for either... in current games, I understand the 4790 is neck and neck with the 5820k if not slightly better, but I'm understanding that if games go to utilizing more then 4 cores soon(which may well happen), I would be ahead of the curve a bit by getting the 5820k(price on cpu isn't a factor here much) along with an MSI x99S mobo which looks very sharp and has decent reviews... my question is to the intel platforms, I could save money and live with the 4790k and live with it but be on z97 platform... I know some have a distaste for the x99 platform, but int erms of looking to the future with an upgrade path, should I just get the x99 platform with the 5820k? Will that give me the most time with a respectable build? I have to upgrade in parts, so right now I have $650 to purchase a new mobo, cpu and memory... so I was gonna grab that 5820k, that MSI mobo and 8 Gigs of Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR4 ram to slap into a new build... my video card is an old 560ti which will be upgraded hopefully to a titan in christmas... i'll be replacing tower,psu and whatnot down the line as well... I have an old warhorse 500w PSU(dont know brand, which is important i know), but I think 500w would support the 5820k and the x99 until I can snag another better psu sometime around here...

In any case, for my purposes and an eye on a slight bit of future proofing with a staggered but solid budget... should I go the x99 platform with the 5820k? Is x99 the platform of choice for someone with an eye on an upgrade path?
 
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The X99 platform is incredibly overpriced, not to mention that it will not support Broadwell CPUs. It needs specialised and expensive DDR4 memory, and is only really necessary for intensive video editing and 3-4 way SLI/Crossfire setups.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($372.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: RAIJINTEK AIDOS BLACK 48.6 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.78 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme3 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($164.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($71.74 @ Amazon)
Total: $634.46
Prices include shipping...

Woody1999

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The X99 platform is incredibly overpriced, not to mention that it will not support Broadwell CPUs. It needs specialised and expensive DDR4 memory, and is only really necessary for intensive video editing and 3-4 way SLI/Crossfire setups.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($372.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: RAIJINTEK AIDOS BLACK 48.6 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.78 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme3 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($164.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($71.74 @ Amazon)
Total: $634.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-13 12:20 EDT-0400

Here is an X99 build, but the 5820K offers nearly no performance increase over the 4790K. For a Haswell build, you can get a lot more for the price.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($328.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_RD 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($113.98 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $617.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-13 12:28 EDT-0400

Woody
 
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neverumindnow

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I just did this myself, also replacing hardware that was 5 - 6 years old.

Old system:
Asus AM3+ motherboard
Phenom II x4 965
8Gb RAM
gtx 460

New system:
Asus Z97-a
i7-4790k (not overclocking, but buying unlocked cpus is an old habit)
16Gb RAM
Samsung 840evo 500Gb
gtx 970

The new system is so much faster, cooler and quieter than the old, that after a couple of months I'm still amazed and pleased while using it. I use linux primarily, a source-based distribution and this new setup with its 4cores/8threads, tears through large compiles. I can even browse the web and do almost anything else while all 4 cores are 100% at 4.4GHz without any noticeable slowdowns or stuttering!

I gave X99 a glance, but I mostly avoid buying bleeding edge. It's expensive and can be buggy. Also, for my purposes, there seemed little benefit to paying more for CPU/mobo. I took my $1700 and got a blazing GPU, a nice SSD home for my OSes, more RAM, and some software. I personlly don't consider future-proofing possible when buying computer hardware. This system does everything I could possibly want, and will for some time to come. I could have bought the latest chipset and CPU, but would have no tangible benefits from that decision. Better to spend that money on things that you interact with more when using the computer. Get a better video card, a bigger monitor, an SSD, more RAM, etc.