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"SnoopJeDi" <snoopjediHOLDTHESPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Michael-NC wasted my time on 12/29/2004 9:24 AM with the following:
>>
>> It's just hard to believe that the latest ATI drivers would stop D3 from
>> running.
>
> It certainly is. I was terribly pissed off when I loaded Doom3. I don't
> know if this is a problem with my computer or with the ATI drivers that
> were on the CD, but installing the new omega drivers fixed the problem in
> a jiffy, so I'm putting my money on the drivers.
I never use the drivers on the CD. I always download the latest reference
drivers from the web.
> I'm a nVidia guy. I have 5 machines in the house and they all
>> have nVidia chipsets in them. In my own particular experience, I can't
>> say I've ever had trouble running a game that was traced back to a video
>> driver problem, of course I try to keep them somewhat updated.
>
> Nvidia drivers are better than ATI drivers in my personal experience (my
> last video card was an MX440; yeah, i know its a POS, you dont have to
> tell me), so it makes sense that you would have no problems.
> > I have
>> built some machines for others with ATI cards and used the ATI unified
>> driver with no probs.
>
> Did you try running Doom3 on these machines? I never said the card was
> giving me grief in windows/other games, just in Doom3.
Didn't try that. I only have my copy of D3.
>> It wasn't that long ago that ATI had no unified driver, one of the
>> reasons I like nVidia. You're the first person I ever heard that
>> recommended Omega drivers.
>
> I'm not even sure if the Omega drivers are necessary anymore, since
> Catalyst 4.12 was released (although from the information he's given us,
> the latest drivers have problems too) But frankly, I know enough about my
> computer that I feel confident installing these drivers. All my sensitive
> data is backed up, so I can even reinstall windows from scratch with
> minimum loss. (mainly in my game dept.)
That's good cause most folks don't backup. I have Genie Backup manager and
it runs automatically every day at 5:00PM and backs up selected files and
Acronis which runs weekly and incrementally backs up the entire drive to an
image which can be restored.
> I see better performance in doom3 with these drivers than I did with the
> 5-minute bursts of playability.
>
> Anyway, I fully understand your standpoint on this, and if our friend here
> is uncomfortable installing the drivers, I'm not pushing them on him. You
> could compare what I'm suggesting to overclocking, just without the
> potential for frying the card. If you don't know what you're doing, you
> could potentially dig yourself in further, but if you take your time and
> step carefully, you'll see good results.
No doubt that any mischief the drivers could conceivably cause could be
easily remedied. I just never heard of them and I'm inclined to be wary of
third-party drivers. If someone puts out 500.00 for the latest ATI card, I
would assume that person would not want to install third-party drivers.
> I'm simply just trying to offer him a way out of the hole he's in.
>
> For the record, the Omega Drivers are *not* perfect, they do have flaws.
> Notably, my gamma was recently thrown askew (blue was too high) and I had
> to open display properties and re-lock RGB gamma values to 1.
If you load third party drivers or even reference drivers on a laptop, it
_could_ cause a lot of trouble as well. I tried on my lapper and it disabled
all the functionality of the hotkeys and the ability to change the display
to a different source. Since laptop GPU's are proprietary parts, alternative
drivers _usually_ won't work with all the functionality of the manufacture's
drivers.
[HINT] I wouldn't put them on my wife's lapper...
> Noob - "do you hack?"
> Justin - "i hack like a maniac!"
> Noob - "do you have digital cable?"
> Justin - "i have *ALL* the cables!"
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